Etrian Nomination Mafia - Endgame: Until the Day the Adventurers Rise Again

[Disfunkshunal]

Wagon? Or the nomination pool?

Nomination pool

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Fat load of good this does a day later lmao

Given thay flip what is your take on chu?

i’m on page 8.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Nomination pool

I think they're probably all town, yeah. I mean, I can be wrong, but from what I'm seeing I would much rather murder Z25 than anyone here.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Given thay flip what is your take on chu?

i’m on page 8.

Ask me this again when you get through the next 14 pages lmao.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Given thay flip what is your take on chu?

i’m on page 8.

Everyone in the D2 lynch pool has Chu as town. Laundry and I think that they're all town. Kantrip thinks I'm scum (citation needed, can't tell if he thinks I'm scum or scummiest). Pokechu thinks that Kantrip and/or Laundry are scum.

 

[Kantrip]

From my perspective, and trying to be objective, I think people should logically be where Joey's at. Obviously I'm biased and it's dumb for me to argue this but I feel like the arguments that make Pokechu town apply to me too in that I wouldn't put myself in the pool as scum with these players and my attitude towards the lynch is quite complacent, logical, and unconcerned.

The tipping point for me is I think my play has shown I'm more invested in finding scum and will be a bigger asset for town if kept.

My argument fails if people still distrust me in which case I'd accept my lynch begrudgingly. But if there's even a miniscule chance that people would still distrust Pokechu then I will fight tooth and nail to see him go over me.

 

[Pokechu]

Wait

If I was the really obvious pick from the start

Why would the whole pool be all townies? Could they not risk putting a scum there? That's why I'm CONFIDENT there is scum

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Bleh. We've talked this to death. Waiting on Ruy to catch up. Joey's thoughts are published. Still waiting on Disfunk to plot out where his head's at because he appears to be working something out. Pokechu hasn't posted his case, but has made his views clear.

Other than that, we're chilling til other people show up.

 

[Kantrip]

Everyone in the D2 lynch pool has Chu as town. Laundry and I think that they're all town. Kantrip thinks I'm scum (citation needed, can't tell if he thinks I'm scum or scummiest). Pokechu thinks that Kantrip and/or Laundry are scum.

Nah I think we're all town too. You're just my least confident townread and I feel like your stance on me is a mirror of mine on you. However I think you should know I wouldn't put myself in this position if I could avoid it as scum. It's a death sentence when if I wasn't in the pool there's no way I get lynched toMorrow over the likes of soup/Z25/Ryu/Nabe.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote somewhere Z25. Don't settle. Vote where you want the lynch. I'll sheep you for the moment. You've got a doublevote.

Hell, #HBC | Laundry will to. Show me the light.

Why did you offer to be his double vote?

 

[Pokechu]

Like Ryker and Laundry being put as the same pool as me?

Whoever made it knew I was getting lynched so why not add on some scum, get them in the pool so it's not suspect that they're not in it later

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Nah I think we're all town too. You're just my least confident townread and I feel like your stance on me is a mirror of mine on you. However I think you should know I wouldn't put myself in this position if I could avoid it as scum. It's a death sentence when if I wasn't in the pool there's no way I get lynched toMorrow over the likes of soup/Z25/Ryu/Nabe.

I'm pretty sure I've said before that while I think you COULD do it, that I find it unlikely that you would pick this hill to die on. It's foolish. Pair that with the entire page of just you and I talking at 4am and I'm fine with you, dawg. I could theoretically say my stronger townread Laundry is more likely to be scum based on nomination mechanics, but that's pretty ****ing tone deaf in my position and I refuse to bite on that WIFOM.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Why did you offer to be his double vote?

Stir the pot.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Z25’s reactions and posts in general seem more town motivated than scum given the heat he got and how he reacted to it.

trying to consider the situation and think about how people are posting and interacting reads like town effort to me.

 

[Kantrip]

Wait

If I was the really obvious pick from the start

Why would the whole pool be all townies? Could they not risk putting a scum there? That's why I'm CONFIDENT there is scum

Sorry this makes no sense. I explained how this works to you yesterday. If you don't understand it still my faith in you helping town more than I will moving forward is near zero.

I want something on why I'm scum that acknowledges my play this phase, please. I know you're on mobile but even bullet points will suffice. I'm on mobile right now too.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Like Ryker and Laundry being put as the same pool as me?

Whoever made it knew I was getting lynched so why not add on some scum, get them in the pool so it's not suspect that they're not in it later

I don't actually think people knew you'd get lynched. There's a chance conspiracy theories and tinfoil hat logic got me or Laundry lynched and I've stated I think Kantrip was a bait given my stance on him at EoD yesterday.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Z25’s reactions and posts in general seem more town motivated than scum given the heat he got and how he reacted to it.

trying to consider the situation and think about how people are posting and interacting reads like town effort to me.

Give me this read again when you get to the end.

 

[Pokechu]

Sorry this makes no sense. I explained how this works to you yesterday. If you don't understand it still my faith in you helping town more than I will moving forward is near zero.

I want something on why I'm scum that acknowledges my play this phase, please. I know you're on mobile but even bullet points will suffice. I'm on mobile right now too.

How does it not make sense lol

I'm saying with three good people and one bad of course chances are I was the lynch

 

[Kantrip]

I'm pretty sure I've said before that while I think you COULD do it, that I find it unlikely that you would pick this hill to die on. It's foolish. Pair that with the entire page of just you and I talking at 4am and I'm fine with you, dawg. I could theoretically say my stronger townread Laundry is more likely to be scum based on nomination mechanics, but that's pretty ****ing tone deaf in my position and I refuse to bite on that WIFOM.

I accept that and I'm not asking you to bump me above Laundry. I just don't think Pokechu is more townie than me considering the points in his favour can be applied to me and looking at play alone I come out squarely ahead, objectively.

 

[Pokechu]

Eap

How does it not make sense lol

I'm saying with three good people and one bad of course chances are I was the lynch

ESP so if the scum knew I wasn't going to put my full effort in like last games

 

[Kantrip]

How does it not make sense lol

I'm saying with three good people and one bad of course chances are I was the lynch

You're just spouting WIFOM. Why is it "3 good and 1 bad?" Like sure scum could put one of their own in a pool with someone scummy and feel relatively safe about it, but that doesn't mean they did necessarily.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I accept that and I'm not asking you to bump me above Laundry. I just don't think Pokechu is more townie than me considering the points in his favour can be applied to me and looking at play alone I come out squarely ahead, objectively.

Sure, if you think he can and would fake the bumbling in this phase. His play is textbook scummy, I'm not disputing that. I just have a hard time believing he is a mastermind who is successfully playing me with all this strategic bumbling.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

How does it not make sense lol

I'm saying with three good people and one bad of course chances are I was the lynch

Kantrip was no way at all in the clear when the phase started.

 

[Pokechu]

Like idk why kantrip is comparing himself to me trying to put himself above when I've put out some good stuff

Wasn't I like the first to actually throw shade and suspect Laundry?

You're just spouting WIFOM. Why is it "3 good and 1 bad?" Like sure scum could put one of their own in a pool with someone scummy and feel relatively safe about it, but that doesn't mean they did necessarily.

nothing is necessary in mafia but chances are highest there's scum in the pool now because it's safest for them.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I need to stop retreading old ground. I'm flooding the thread again and this time there's not much of a point to it.

 

[Pokechu]

Kantrip was no way at all in the clear when the phase started.

Scum knew that if things continued as they were (me not doing anything) that kantrip still would look way better than me

 

[Kantrip]

Like I think my slot was arguably the scummiest of us 4 at the end of Day 1. I hammered a townie after waffling all Day and tunnel visioning my RVS vote. I wouldn't like it either.

I stand by the problems I had with Z25 but I admit I didn't put effort in elsewhere where I should have.

With this in mind, I'm self aware enough to keep myself out of the pool toDay knowing I'd be at risk, so I won't accept any argument that hinges on me being scum banking on Pokechu getting lynched over me.

 

[Pokechu]

Like I think my slot was arguably the scummiest of us 4 at the end of Day 1. I hammered a townie after waffling all Day and tunnel visioning my RVS vote. I wouldn't like it either.

I stand by the problems I had with Z25 but I admit I didn't put effort in elsewhere where I should have.

With this in mind, I'm self aware enough to keep myself out of the pool toDay knowing I'd be at risk, so I won't accept any argument that hinges on me being scum banking on Pokechu getting lynched over me.

That last paragraph

You're saying that scum kantrip wouldn't have put himself in the pool??

But didn't you say earlier that that's exactly something scum kantrip would have done???

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Scum knew that if things continued as they were (me not doing anything) that kantrip still would look way better than me

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Poke jumped right into the WIFOM pools. I'm going to reread.

 

[Pokechu]

I definitely think scum me would put myself in a lynch pool with confidence, to be fair. Especially with a low effort Pokechu I could argue to live over.

 

[Pokechu]

That last paragraph

You're saying that scum kantrip wouldn't have put himself in the pool??

But didn't you say earlier that that's exactly something scum kantrip would have done???

Do y'all hear sumn??

 

[Pokechu]

Explain

Or else I pull out the Ace Attorney music and junk

 

[Kantrip]

Yes I would feel confident that I could live over you as scum. No I wouldn't do it just to flex my skills as it's a huge unnecessary risk when I'd be coming into the pool as public enemy number 1.

The context of that quote is me telling Ryker not to discount my perception of my ability to play scum. That said, it's different from trying to argue I actually did that because it's still a very skewed risk reward ratio that just isn't worth taking.

 

[Kantrip]

I still want to hear your points for why I'm scum which you claimed prior to this contradiction you think youve caught.

 

[Pokechu]

I'm not on a computer... yet

Will be on one really soon

I gotta flex these muscles over a keyboard and all your receipts

 

[Kantrip]

-sigh-

By all means, flex away. I still think you're town but I'll be miffed if you live toDay and then continue to play like you have been.

 

[Pokechu]

-sigh-

By all means, flex away. I still think you're town but I'll be miffed if you live toDay and then continue to play like you have been.

Ever since last night I've been playing GOOD

I haven't felt this way in a WHILE!!! What Chu mean???! No pun intended LOL

 

[Kantrip]

I've had to explain the barebone basics of this setup to you twice now, you came in at deadline to contribute to a townie's lynch, and the half of your posts that aren't ****posting are still joke-toned statements without substantiation. Only now when you are about to be lynched as a perceived "lesser-of-evils" mislynch do you decide you'd rather live and you're suddenly confident that one of the nominees must be scum off of WIFOM speculation rather than any assessment of our individual play.

So no, I don't think you've been "playing GOOD," but go off.

 

[Pokechu]

I've had to explain the barebone basics of this setup to you twice now, you came in at deadline to contribute to a townie's lynch, and the half of your posts that aren't ****posting are still joke-toned statements without substantiation. Only now when you are about to be lynched as a perceived "lesser-of-evils" mislynch do you decide you'd rather live and you're suddenly confident that one of the nominees must be scum off of WIFOM speculation rather than any assessment of our individual play.

So no, I don't think you've been "playing GOOD," but go off.

You only explained it to me once and just told me a valid observation I made made no sense

I'll knock ur junk kantrip if you spew more stuff like this