Yeah, rules are kinda awkward atm. I'd love to hear some REASONING behind them =)
(not just "us frenchies play with with only 1 stage tihi")
(not just "us frenchies play with with only 1 stage tihi")
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I hope to see you there. You have improved a lot, and should do it quite well, indeed.I'd really like to go to this, but I don't think my parents would let me... Maybe if I stepped up my school work and improved my grades. We'll see.
Wobbling will NEVER be allowed in this tournament (not to say in French Tournaments).I have to agree that the rules are a bit at the moment, wobbling not allowed
Besides the fact that 4 out of the 5 allowed stages can be considered pro Falco stages I think there should be more stages available to be used as counterpicks.- Stages allowed : Final Destination, Dreamland 64, Pokemon Stadium, Yoshi Story and Fountain of Dreams.
- The stage for the first match of a set will be random between Final Destination, Dreamland 64 and Pokemon Stadium.
= Bad for Falco? >_> Stages that allow you to spam endlesly and run away are those that are banned in most instances, like Hyrule temple and Peach castle, not the other way around. The platform might be small, but it allows for both players to pressurize other and when it lands, there is enough room to do a lot of stuff. YS and FoD are also small. The whole stage itself is anything but small and true, it allows for some extended recoveries but just take a look at Dreamland, no reason to ban a stage that helps some recoveries a bit. >_> And stalling is banned, btw. (or at least the most obvious forms like rising pound and peach bomber)Joanna dark said:Look at mute city for instance... right, you can't spam on it, it's way too small, and of course you definitely can't stall...
Care to elaborate on your reasoning?I knew people would notice the lack of stages...
Well, first off, it's already a compromise for the French players : we usually play on the 3 neutral stages.
Since this is an international tournament, we're willing to make efforts about stages, but we can't accept everything. I agree Battlefield could be on. But stages like Mute City or Greengreens have been banned for years and there are good reasons, in our opinion of course.
The only thing that might seem "random" are the cars, but they always pass at the same time so you know when to expect them.I can't think of a match on mute city where something doesn't go wrong at some point. something that shouldn't happen in tournament, cuz it's based on bad luck. This is just an example to tell you that, in France, we do not consider luck to be part of a tournament.
Counterpicking is skill based as well.It's even more than that : we base our tournaments on skills. pure smash bros skills. If you can't win against someone without counterpick stages, then that someone is better. If you're counting on your opponent's weakness more than on your strenght, well, that's too bad because you can't do that at a french tournament
Ok, you've "explained" mute city somewhat, so what about green greens & rainbow ride?So, let's be clear
I'll talk with Poilon about Battlefield, it should probably be on.
But I can assure you that you'll never see mute city or greengreens or rainbow ride in a french tournament. Poilon will never accept that, nor will the other players.
If you consider BF a falco counter stage then I can see why you banned everything.As you may have noticed, I didn't talk about Falco... but hey, that would be silly to say the ruleset advantages falco, I mean, falco can do good on counterpick stages too. Amsah, didn't you get 3 stocked on your counterpick (battlefield) at ros4 finals?
If it all depends on the player then why are you arguing that stages can ruin competitive play?My point is just that it depends from players. I'm better on fountain of dreams than on FD with falco for instance. I would not counterpick FD against makenshi's marth aswell...
Anyway, I hope you guys like that Battlefield will be on, but I can't do more than that, the other stages are just out of question, if you consider our view of a tournament.
Fixed for you. Yoshi's Island, wtf? O_o;; We don't need any more Fox shine infinite stages there, Onett and Peach castle are broken already.About the stages. I think it should be more like:
Stages Available For Counter Picking:
Yoshi's Story, Fountain of Dreams, Corneria, Rainbow Ride, Jungle Japes, Green Greens, Brinstar, Mute City, Pokèmon Stadium, Pokè Floats, Battlefield, Final Destination, Dream Land 64, Kongo Jungle 64.
Some of the stages should be off, when I think about itFixed for you. Yoshi's Island, wtf? O_o;; We don't need any more Fox shine infinite stages there, Onett and Peach castle are broken already.
The ruleset had nothing to do with massive european flaking so dont use it as an excuse, you guys just sucked ***.Yeah, and look what a great turn out you had from all the european countries. Not.
The ruleset is a dealbreaker for many of us out here, so it's in your best interest to make it suitable for european high level play if you want high level europeans to attend
I will have to pick up a new low tier character though, poor Luigi. =[
You got to be kidding me -__-I'll go in any case, if I can. These rules won't stop me, but I'd still like to have more stages on counter picking. (btw it's usless to just put Battlefield in alone, you might as well stay where you are)
LoL, Ache. All the stages I like are not allowed. Even though I main Falco, I don't have to love all the stages, lol. And when all the other non-neutral stages are off, why put in Battlefield? <_<You got to be kidding me -__-
"These rules won't stop me". Because they fit you perfectly as a Falco main? And the Battlefield comment was just priceless....
Tournament experience doesn't just pay off in the tournaments themselves.I did'nt even notice if you had'nt say anything..
True.Tournament experience doesn't just pay off in the tournaments themselves.