I think that with thirty people playing, it's quite possible that a mafia will screw up and one of us will catch it. And with needing sixteen people to lynch, it may take a very convincing argument. But then again, in Trigun Mafia, Pythag was the scummiest player by far, with a really poor defense for his strange behaviour, got lynched, and was town. It did contribute one game-changing piece of evidence early on, I think, and that was that some of the bad guys were town.
We may get the same benefit here, and some of us who think we're in a random-*** role may have other relevant players. FOr instance, I think if Satan gets lynched as Mafia then Jesus is probably town. But it's also quite possible that Eor has gone to great lengths to mess with our heads, and put "enemies" on the same team.
I don't think Frozen's posts have nothing to do with the game. I think it's only natural that instead of flinging random accusations, that mediocre rightly said can just be brushed off, we try to figure out the nature of the game itself.
I have no evidence other than the size of the game, but I suspect that there is more than one Mafia. Hell, it is not inconcievable that I am among the few true town players and everyone else is just in a small mafia group. Mafias don't win until it's only their mafia alive, right?
And as for Kira, I agree that if his character was faithfully translated into a role, he'd be independent. But the "role" he plays is pretty townly in that he kills a million bad guys. So I think it depends on what kind of interpretation and each character has gotten for their role, and whether these interpretations are the same across the board or if some are faithful, some are opposite, some may just be arbitrary.
I've never played Mafia before, and the only game I've read was half the size of this. Is it really likely that there will be "power roles"? It makes sense to me that if you have a few players, they will mostly have some substantial power. But with 30 players, it would seem odd to have like six kills a night or something.
We may get the same benefit here, and some of us who think we're in a random-*** role may have other relevant players. FOr instance, I think if Satan gets lynched as Mafia then Jesus is probably town. But it's also quite possible that Eor has gone to great lengths to mess with our heads, and put "enemies" on the same team.
I don't think Frozen's posts have nothing to do with the game. I think it's only natural that instead of flinging random accusations, that mediocre rightly said can just be brushed off, we try to figure out the nature of the game itself.
I have no evidence other than the size of the game, but I suspect that there is more than one Mafia. Hell, it is not inconcievable that I am among the few true town players and everyone else is just in a small mafia group. Mafias don't win until it's only their mafia alive, right?
And as for Kira, I agree that if his character was faithfully translated into a role, he'd be independent. But the "role" he plays is pretty townly in that he kills a million bad guys. So I think it depends on what kind of interpretation and each character has gotten for their role, and whether these interpretations are the same across the board or if some are faithful, some are opposite, some may just be arbitrary.
I've never played Mafia before, and the only game I've read was half the size of this. Is it really likely that there will be "power roles"? It makes sense to me that if you have a few players, they will mostly have some substantial power. But with 30 players, it would seem odd to have like six kills a night or something.