commonyoshi
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I can understand the suspicion around <3, but why are people focusing on KevinM? Is it something Lambardi said, or did I miss something he posted?
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Yeah, it was a thing I started, plus his reponse to this was strange.Oh that remains to be my standpoint as of now. Kira is a powerful role, so he steps back and only posts as to not appear a lurker (and defend misa), while misa goes out in the open and gets information in whatever way she does.
<3 went out and told everyone to claim town for some odd reason that I still know to not be as it appears. I believe that that somehow would tie in to how misa gets people's roles. KevinM lies low and only acts as casual support when <3 is suspected. Then, once misa has somehow gotten her information, she tells kira and he night/day kills whoever he can.
I'm not even trying to speculate about roles, I don't watch deathnote, it's just that the way people talk of misa and kira fits perfectly into the situation with Kevin and <3, and that isn't even considering the 3rd person tie-in!
Is that enough of a point for you ender (and anyone else who was shocked at my suspicion).
This whole thing just fits together well enough for me to not even want to take the chance. I am almost fully sure of KevinM being his partner, as opposed to the other supporters of <3 who defended more openly (wheras Kevin stayed hidden about it and remained general with his defences).
I am not entirely sure which of the two to vote for. For now I will wait for responses to decide. As for <3 AND KevinM, I would like to see your response to my accusation. Especially you, kevinM..
-Lombardi
By <3's own admission, there seems to be a connection here, but I'm wondering if it's a mafia connection. Savvy?<3 said:God thank you! Took long enough, but this is what people should be looking doing; finding alliances and then shoving them out into the open for everyone to observe and respond to. But for the record he is far from the only one...Mr.Lombardi34 said:There you go again kevinM, defending <3. You always just seem to try to dismiss any possibilty that <3 is dangerous in a seemingly useless post. I've observed that twice in a row, plus <3 could be misa and you could be kira. You don't want <3 to die so you try and defend him without being suspicious. FOS KevinM.
Hmm...Well, that is possible, but then why would Kevin want to lie low like that?By <3's own admission, there seems to be a connection here, but I'm wondering if it's a mafia connection. Savvy?
Well, I'm gonna give one more quick evaluation here, plus I have a new suspect.
<3: He is weird, but after hearing more about misa, doesn't really seem like a bad person. I say again though, he was tring to do SOMETHING with that claiming thing. I'm keeping a close eye here.
Possible Roles (with a new one):
Scum: Tera, Misa
Town: Dobby, the house elf from harry potter (always talks in third person AND beats himself up when he lies).
Axemangx: You and kevinM are the same way. You post to not lurk. You never contributed anything at all, and, immedietly after I posted my big arguement, you jumped right on. Most in-experienced scum will most liekely do this, just because it takes attention away from them. FOS: Axemangx
KevinM: "Of the three I have witnessed, it is you who I fear most of all!"-Scrooge. Kevin, I have taken away a bit of suspicion from <3, but that doesn't mean that you are not a dangerous person here. You still tried to stay hidden while defending <3 and you still did a rather odd snapback as soon as I suspected you. I am a bit less sure of you, but lets see how you react when I vote for your partner....
Unvote whoever, Vote: Axemangx.This votes serves two persposes. The first is that it will both help get rid of and place pressure upon a possible mafiat. It will also lure out KevinM, who I suspect to be partners with either <3 or Axeman.
KevinM, I encourage you to vote for axemangx, because if you refuse then that would be a dead tell. Either way, it helps us find/kill a mafiat
First of all if your going to vote for somebody at least take the time to unvote the right person, if your throwing votes around so much that you can't remeber who you vote is on then your not thinking about who you want dead carefully enough, or your just trying to kill anybody you can (read mafia).I suppose that you are right . I'm gonna step back for a little while now.
I can't argue about your possible view with <3. It might as well be a character trait, as it is possible to the fact that <3 never really talked like that in the other Mafias, and "Dobby" really raises a good valid explination.First of all if your going to vote for somebody at least take the time to unvote the right person, if your throwing votes around so much that you can't remeber who you vote is on then your not thinking about who you want dead carefully enough, or your just trying to kill anybody you can (read mafia).
Second, I'm naturally suspicious of KevinM, but the last sentence in lombardi's first post screams manipulation. The town has numbers you should never have to threaten anyone into voting you should present evidence and you argument and then everyone should dileberate on it. Yur basiclly saying help me kill this person or else, and there is no way you could have enough evidence to link the two like that on day one.
My problem is that lombardi came out all gung-ho about his vote and the when one person disagrees with him he immediately retracts his statement. It's the retract that I think makes his strong arming suspicious instead of just stupid. So far that comment is the only thing I can see as real mafia activity.
It's obvious that <3 can either determine blatant lies about alignment or is trying to make everyone believe he can, but that could go either way and talking in the third person isn't scummy its either just something hes doing or it a character trait (also hes not royalty, they speak in the royal we not the third). Even kevinM is just being his usual KevinM self and I didn't notice anything wrong with axe at all, except that he disagreeed with you.
I don't like strong-armers, I don't like people who don't stick to their guns, I don't like people who are overly theatrical (Christmas Carol Quote), and I don't like Mr. Lombardi
Vote: Mr. Lombardi
If they're stupid, nonsensical ideas, they don't help at all.Mediocre, how is thinking about the game going to confuse townies? If anything that would help the situation if you have more ideas to plan on.
I don't like your logic.
Axemangx: You and kevinM are the same way. You post to not lurk. You never contributed anything at all, and, immedietly after I posted my big arguement, you jumped right on. Most in-experienced scum will most liekely do this, just because it takes attention away from them. FOS: Axemangx
I don't think Axemangx has done enough to warrant him a vote, but he's getting closer with each post.Hmmm alright so basically, from what I've gathered so far, my general suspicions are teh following:
- KevinM for a slightly nihilistic tone and attitude, and behavior that implies contradicting interests at different points in time. (Still piecing this second part together.)
- Axemangx for being generally antagonistic and unhelpful. Along with KevinM, one of the initial people to dissent <3/speculate about his role.
Why? You make it sound like you'd do it just because it would be easy(what with 2 other people already suspicious of him).id also vote for axemang at this point if people wanna jump on that bandwagon
I don't think you realize how shallow this sounds.Forget about it, I'm lynch voting KevinM...
Seeing as we have little to NO evidence on ANYTHING about ANYONE, I suggest we use our Fingers and call it a day.
Yeah, I just made myself sound like I'm Mafia...
I can't tell whether or not that was a joke. Either way, it seems like you voted him because he was so quick to vote on somebody with unconvincing evidence.Vote: smashbot226
I think Mr.Lombardi was just trying to stir things up, but did it in the wrong way. While I don't think he was right about most of his accusations, it has made me think about things(KevinM's lack of contribution & axemangx's swiftness from bandwagon to bandwagon).My problem is that lombardi came out all gung-ho about his vote and the when one person disagrees with him he immediately retracts his statement. It's the retract that I think makes his strong arming suspicious instead of just stupid. So far that comment is the only thing I can see as real mafia activity.
I don't like strong-armers, I don't like people who don't stick to their guns, I don't like people who are overly theatrical (Christmas Carol Quote), and I don't like Mr. Lombardi
Vote: Mr. Lombardi
In that case, I could vote for anyone and say that. There are people in this game who are more suspicious than KevinM, mainly the people who haven't posted much.WOULD we have any proof except guesses from a gut feeling or what someone said? Can we REALLY judge for now?
I don't think that Lombardi was mearly trying to "stir things up" as you put it, he made a direct threat to one player and i delibrate move to start a bandwagon on the othey, however poorly he may have executed it. And, it's my experience that people who overestimate their own knowledge and ability rarely admit their bluff/hubris so easily. His swift reversal of opinion is a distinctly mafia like move., and it shows that lombardi is more concerned with not drawing any attention or scrutiny to himself, than to finding what according to his previous post he believed to be two people who were very likely to be mafia(at least enough to for him to make direct threats).I think Mr.Lombardi was just trying to stir things up, but did it in the wrong way. While I don't think he was right about most of his accusations, it has made me think about things(KevinM's lack of contribution & axemangx's swiftness from bandwagon to bandwagon).
As for his "real mafia activity", I think he simply got a little too excited, was proven wrong, and then decided to sit back to evaluate things a little more.
Also, I think you meant you didn't like the way he plays(and if you did, ignore the rest of this), but if you didn't, I doubt anyone could care less whether or not you like Mr. Lombardi, especially when your judgments on him seem to stem only from this mafia game.
The important part of that sentence was the for now part.WOULD we have any proof except guesses from a gut feeling or what someone said? Can we REALLY judge for now?
They just aren't active. They COULD be busy with something... like school.In that case, I could vote for anyone and say that. There are people in this game who are more suspicious than KevinM, mainly the people who haven't posted much.
I never backed down on him. I still think he is scum, spam master. He may not have started bandwagons but joined them very readily. Joined mine, then yours, which was against mine. He is acting to weird not to vote for, in my opinion.Fifth, If you found axeangx to be "very suspicious" then why did you back down so quickly when even though mediocre disagreed with you he actually supported your suspicion for axemangx. And, what in between now and then has caused you to no longer find axemangx suspicious, if nobody has disagreed with you. I think that you backed down because you hoped to start a bandwagon and let it roll and then when axe was lynched say that you were only a part of a large group people, but when you realized people weren't suspicoius enough of him you realized that to get the lynch that you would have to argue so much that youd get called out as the main aggressor in a lynch of someone you knew to be town. You didn't want to have the lynch traced back to you, but if you were town you wouldn't have cared. If you were so suspicous of axe you would have chased him down just like I'm doing to you. At least that's the way I see things.
Vote: Spam Master
yalls bickerin makes me think u could be plottin.
lol, yeah I "be plottin". I "be plottin" to kill a mafia. Also, your not gonna have a very good time if you think any argument between two people is scummy, I don't know if you've read any other mafia games but after like 4 or 5 days thats all it is.
Really? He seems very reasonable to me. He's made the most convincing case that's been made this entire game, in my opinion.holy jesus. my comp was down for 2 days. and there are like 7+ pages. that took too long to read.
Vote: Spam Master
yalls bickerin makes me think u could be plottin.
Way to get more in-depth. Like Ronike and Mediocre before me, I'm leaning towards voting on Mr.Lombardi after seeing that. I'm going to reread some of the previous posts and come to a decision.I don't think that Lombardi was mearly trying to "stir things up" as you put it, he made a direct threat to one player and i delibrate move to start a bandwagon on the othey, however poorly he may have executed it. And, it's my experience that people who overestimate their own knowledge and ability rarely admit their bluff/hubris so easily. His swift reversal of opinion is a distinctly mafia like move., and it shows that lombardi is more concerned with not drawing any attention or scrutiny to himself, than to finding what according to his previous post he believed to be two people who were very likely to be mafia(at least enough to for him to make direct threats).
I meant I don't like as I don't like the way he acts, I think it's suspicious, and I don't trust him.
This game has been up for nearly a week and I think everyone has had at least 1 post. It's just that many of them have just sort of popped in and said, "Yeah, I'm here, when is day 1 over?". This is normal on day 1(which is a shame), but there have been a few conflicts worth giving your opinion on(<3's effort to claim, axemangx's unhelpful bandwagoning, and most recently, spam master's attack on Mr. Lombardi). It's not like you always have to try and find something new, when there are accusations already being made to think about.They just aren't active. They COULD be busy with something... like school.
It's like calling a sleeping man a murderer.
I agree with Mediocre and spam master on this, either Mediocre was right in saying that Gamefreak is not looking deep enough, or he's just voting on someone who's contributed good ideas just to hurry this up. I think the former is very likely, but the latter would make me want to vote for him.Really? He seems very reasonable to me. He's made the most convincing case that's been made this entire game, in my opinion.holy jesus. my comp was down for 2 days. and there are like 7+ pages. that took too long to read.
Vote: Spam Master
yalls bickerin makes me think u could be plottin.
sorry for being so inactive i just had to work a lot these last few days won't happen again.
I'm really considering voting for Lombardi at this point, because what spam master said sounds like a very likely possibility.
Did you actually look at his arguments, or did you just see that he was being confrontational and decide that made him suspicious? Because confronting someone about their suspicious behavior isn't suspicious - it's what every townie should do.
In any case, "bickering" isn't a valid reason to vote for someone, really. I don't think you're going to convince anyone to vote for someone just because they disagreed with somebody else. That would just be silly.
YAY! BANDWAGON! Vote: Mr. Lombardi!
Yeah, you did. And almost immediately after, you instead targeted axemangx, and told KevinM that if he didn't agree with you he also had to be scum.Okay, look guys, I really don't see how it's wrong to back down on an accusation. I didn't know about misa and I thought they conected, but mediocre old me stuff and gave a good reason why that isn't the case, so I decided to step down.
It may be a bandwagon, but it's one that makes sense. It's backed up by logic and all the evidence we have. Lombardi's actions aren't just suspicious; they're very scummy.YAY! BANDWAGON! Vote: Mr. Lombardi!
THIS IS SPARTAAA!YAY! BANDWAGON! Vote: Mr. Lombardi!