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Nonno Umby

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Hint: use Zeke and Corvin lol

Or at least any eva units

You can't really facetank her stuff or critheal through everything bc of her stupid-*** driver combos

(Still love that fight though)
Or even better, go to custom difficulty and set everything in your favour (max damage dealt to enemies, minimum received from enemies and so on), which is the method I used.
It's a little cheap but I couldn't wait to get Elma in my party.
 
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Or even better, go to custom difficulty and set everything in your favour (max damage dealt to enemies, minimum received from enemies and so on), which is the method I used.
It's a little cheap but I couldn't wait to get Elma in my party.
I think it's really neat that they added Overdrive into XC2 even if it's not as complex (or viable) as XCX. And the fact that they gave her so many optional party chats (and made it a big part of her affinity chart) shows that they still have plans for XCX.
 

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Well this is interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XU9lz45tKU
https://www.radicalfishgames.com/?p=6581

So it appears Nintendo will make companies fabricate reasons why a game won't come to a console, then do a grand reveal trailer for the said game. We've seen it with Hollow Knight (to an extent) and now we've seen it with CrossCode. What's not to say Monolith Soft was making excuses.

(Don't want to click on the links, first one is to CrossCodes announcement trailer while the second one is to a post on why there won't be a switch version of the game.)
 

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Well this is interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XU9lz45tKU
https://www.radicalfishgames.com/?p=6581

So it appears Nintendo will make companies fabricate reasons why a game won't come to a console, then do a grand reveal trailer for the said game. We've seen it with Hollow Knight (to an extent) and now we've seen it with CrossCode. What's not to say Monolith Soft was making excuses.

(Don't want to click on the links, first one is to CrossCodes announcement trailer while the second one is to a post on why there won't be a switch version of the game.)
wow that is really weird, I was all ready to say "well they didn't technically say it wasn't coming, just that it's hard" but then they said,
Those guys said:
Sorry but CrossCode will be coming to Switch when Hedgehags learn to fly.
Does make you wonder why they would do this?
 

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wow that is really weird, I was all ready to say "well they didn't technically say it wasn't coming, just that it's hard" but then they said,


Does make you wonder why they would do this?
At the end of the announcement trailer they show some Hedgehags (an enemy in the game) with a propeller flying around, so I guess it was just an elaborate joke,
 

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At the end of the announcement trailer they show some Hedgehags (an enemy in the game) with a propeller flying around, so I guess it was just an elaborate joke,
Lol seems like a weird joke but I bet you're probably right, they did that to set up the flying pig joke.
 

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wow that is really weird, I was all ready to say "well they didn't technically say it wasn't coming, just that it's hard" but then they said,


Does make you wonder why they would do this?
It's all about the reveal trailer. Nintendo wants to announce stuff on their terms. Companies like radical fish might be forced to sign a NDA to make up an excuse on why the game isnt going to happen. On another note, I hope those hedgehags are secret enemies you can summon
 
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It's all about the reveal trailer. Nintendo wants to announce stuff on their terms. Companies like radical fish might be forced to sign a NDA to make up an excuse on why the game isnt going to happen.
Idk they could have just...not said anything lol

I think Nonno Umby Nonno Umby has a point, I think the developers did that all on their own to set up their own joke and subvert expectations.

"we won't work on a Switch port...because it's already done!" kinda thing.
 

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Idk they could have just...not said anything lol

I think Nonno Umby Nonno Umby has a point, I think the developers did that all on their own to set up their own joke and subvert expectations.

"we won't work on a Switch port...because it's already done!" kinda thing.
That's true, I could believe that for the most part.
The other question I have would be about the "hat in time never coming to the switch" debacal that happened last year. Nintendo fans have shown how ravanous they are for indie games. Had nintendo contacted them to work on a switch port at the time?

Probably not, but who knows.
 

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Okay, so someone on the Rex thread thinks that Shulk might get cut next game just because the timing for including XB series characters would be so poor that it's not worth it by the time there's an XB3.

What.
Oh yeah, just how Marth was cut from Brawl.
I swear, the way some people think. . .

Well this is interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XU9lz45tKU
https://www.radicalfishgames.com/?p=6581

So it appears Nintendo will make companies fabricate reasons why a game won't come to a console, then do a grand reveal trailer for the said game. We've seen it with Hollow Knight (to an extent) and now we've seen it with CrossCode. What's not to say Monolith Soft was making excuses.

(Don't want to click on the links, first one is to CrossCodes announcement trailer while the second one is to a post on why there won't be a switch version of the game.)
I mean, that's literally what I've been saying for months: That this supposed "deconfirmation" of an X port was just standard PR talk that neither confirms nor denies anything being in the works. But considering that "X port would be expensive to make, Tetsuya Takahashi states" doesn't make as good a headline as "PORT OF XENOBLADE CHRONICLES X TO SWITCH NEVER EVER HAPPENING!!!", and that people still are intent on making X out to be the black sheep in the series when that dishonour goes to 2 it isn't too surprising that people are only now picking up on this.
 

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If a Xenoblade X Switch port is INDEED in the works right now and that statement was just PR talk...how soon would you expect an announcement?

And come on, it’s Nintendo, they’re made of money ever since the Switch’s ongoing success. Expenses are no problem for an X Switch port. Time? Maybe, but if they find and hire amazing programmers the time needed to convert everything to a Switch format may be cut in half...or even more
 

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If a Xenoblade X Switch port is INDEED in the works right now and that statement was just PR talk...how soon would you expect an announcement?

And come on, it’s Nintendo, they’re made of money ever since the Switch’s ongoing success. Expenses are no problem for an X Switch port. Time? Maybe, but if they find and hire amazing programmers the time needed to convert everything to a Switch format may be cut in half...or even more
If I had a rough estimate I'd say an announcement trailer during the next direct if it's in March, then a release date trailer (plus Elma smash reveal) during E3.
 
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If a Xenoblade X Switch port is INDEED in the works right now and that statement was just PR talk...how soon would you expect an announcement?

And come on, it’s Nintendo, they’re made of money ever since the Switch’s ongoing success. Expenses are no problem for an X Switch port. Time? Maybe, but if they find and hire amazing programmers the time needed to convert everything to a Switch format may be cut in half...or even more
Watch them release a teaser trailer leading all of us to believe it's an X port for the Switch, and then suddenly... XCX2, coming summer 2020 as a Wii U exclusive (joking but please XCX2 I beg you Takahashi don't just end it there)
 

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On the topic of indie games, I just love that they deemed Goat Simulator worthy of getting a Switch port.

If a Xenoblade X Switch port is INDEED in the works right now and that statement was just PR talk...how soon would you expect an announcement?

And come on, it’s Nintendo, they’re made of money ever since the Switch’s ongoing success. Expenses are no problem for an X Switch port. Time? Maybe, but if they find and hire amazing programmers the time needed to convert everything to a Switch format may be cut in half...or even more
At least during E3.
 

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So I just beat Elma’s first battle (custom) and it was A W E S O M E

and apparently I can already do Redux?? The wiki said you had to beat the main story first but I’m literally fighting it right now

Wish me luck!! And I want Elma in Smash even more now aaaaaaaaa

and the dialogue at the beginning of her intro cutscene...the whole “like the trees he loved so much”...I have a feeling the X port will touch more on Elma’s partner
 
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So I just beat Elma’s first battle (custom) and it was A W E S O M E

and apparently I can already do Redux?? The wiki said you had to beat the main story first but I’m literally fighting it right now

Wish me luck!! And I want Elma in Smash even more now aaaaaaaaa

and the dialogue at the beginning of her intro cutscene...the whole “like the trees he loved so much”...I have a feeling the X port will touch more on Elma’s partner
Redux is pretty hard, gl
 
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Aaaaaaand I just died

I think I’ll wait for stronger core chips at least. The whole party gauge being locked doesn’t help

How do I unlock it?
Each clone seals one part of the party gauge. Without any cheese tactics using Corvin spam, I would say get a Seal Reinforcement combo on main Elma so that she can't summon any more with Ghost Factory (she'll still do it but nothing will happen) and then kill the clones and either whittle down main Elma with fusion combos to get a nice DoT on her and revive your teammates if they die of if you have an Orb Master you can use them to make orbs without fully completing a Blade combo and therefore not ruining the Seal Reinforcement and then you can just Chain Attack her. I reccomend bringing T-elos since she can Seal Reinforcement AND gets really strong each time she finishes off a clone/a driver on your team dies while she's out.
 

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Aaaaaaand I just died

I think I’ll wait for stronger core chips at least. The whole party gauge being locked doesn’t help

How do I unlock it?
Defeat her Ghostwalker clones. One clone locks one segment of the party gauge.

and the dialogue at the beginning of her intro cutscene...the whole “like the trees he loved so much”...I have a feeling the X port will touch more on Elma’s partner
I doubt that they'd add this sort of thing in a port. If anything, they'd focus on it in a X2 - and if they do, I really hope that they don't go for the romantic angle with it. There being no love story subplot was one of the things that I just really enjoyed about X's story, and I'd prefer it if they kept it that way. Doesn't help that romances in the games' main stories were always meh to me at best.
 

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Each clone seals one part of the party gauge. Without any cheese tactics using Corvin spam, I would say get a Seal Reinforcement combo on main Elma so that she can't summon any more with Ghost Factory (she'll still do it but nothing will happen) and then kill the clones and either whittle down main Elma with fusion combos to get a nice DoT on her and revive your teammates if they die of if you have an Orb Master you can use them to make orbs without fully completing a Blade combo and therefore not ruining the Seal Reinforcement and then you can just Chain Attack her. I reccomend bringing T-elos since she can Seal Reinforcement AND gets really strong each time she finishes off a clone/a driver on your team dies while she's out.
No T-elos so I GUESS it’s Corvin evade spam time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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I doubt that they'd add this sort of thing in a port. If anything, they'd focus on it in a X2 - and if they do, I really hope that they don't go for the romantic angle with it. There being no love story subplot was one of the things that I just really enjoyed about X's story, and I'd prefer it if they kept it that way. Doesn't help that romances in the games' main stories were always meh to me at best.
Me too. I really hope that it turns to be a very close friendship between soldiers who respect and admire each other. I'm bored of all the love stories we see in gaming, why can't we have complex and deep friendships between male and female characters, something like Otacon and Snake or Lupin III and Jigen? Those are way more interesting than another couple in love.
Heck I would even prefer if he is revealed to be her brother rather than a love interest.
 
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Me too. I really hope that it turns to be a very close friendship between soldiers who respect and admire each other. I'm bored of all the love stories we see in gaming, why can't we have complex and deep friendships between male and female characters, something like Otacon and Snake or Lupin III and Jigen? Those are way more interesting than another couple in love.
Heck I would even prefer if he is revealed to be her brother rather than a love interest.
also idk why but i always coded elma as lesbian even though she might not be
 

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also idk why but i always coded elma as lesbian even though she might not be
IMO she is either bi or asexual, either way I don't think she is the type that looks for relationships at the moment, probably due to her position as a soldier so that if she falls in battle she will not leave anybody alone.
 

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also idk why but i always coded elma as lesbian even though she might not be
Irina pines for Elma and it's tragic and excellent and you can't change my mind
Elma is the bi icon we deserve, remember L had the hots for her true form too

As for the battle, I'm planning to wait until
Nia reveals herself as a Blade. Yeah, I was inadvertently spoiled on that, but Driver!Nia dies too damn easily before I can even kill one Ghost Elma. better to have maybe two attackers and Morag or Tora, or Rex or Zeke and two tanks and two drivers will have at least one healing blade each
 

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Elma is the bi icon we deserve, remember L had the hots for her true form too

As for the battle, I'm planning to wait until
Nia reveals herself as a Blade. Yeah, I was inadvertently spoiled on that, but Driver!Nia dies too damn easily before I can even kill one Ghost Elma. better to have maybe two attackers and Morag or Tora, or Rex or Zeke and two tanks and two drivers will have at least one healing blade each
You can set the difficulty to custom, lower all the settings that assist the enemies to its lowest settings while set your groups buffs to their highest. Makes the fight easier.
 

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You can set the difficulty to custom, lower all the settings that assist the enemies to its lowest settings while set your groups buffs to their highest. Makes the fight easier.
Redux still gave me trouble even on custom tho
 

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Women of Color, Bi, and Strong? Insert SJW joke here.

On a side note. Time for a little rant...

Nintendo, I swear, if Uncontrollable doesn’t get in Smash Ultimate throughout it’s entire lifetime, you gonna catch these hands.
 
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Women of Color, Bi, and Strong? Insert SJW joke here.

On a side note. Time for a little rant...

Nintendo, I swear, if Uncontrollable doesn’t get in Smash Ultimate throughout it’s entire lifetime, you gonna catch these hands.
I think you're also missing a important adjective for Elma. Almost spoilers territory but an important one.

I'm actually surprised they didn't add primordia theme from X. Out of all the pieces of music its fits Gaur plains the best. Not to mention all the battle themes used in X.
 

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I think you're also missing a important adjective for Elma. Almost spoilers territory but an important one.

I'm actually surprised they didn't add primordia theme from X. Out of all the pieces of music its fits Gaur plains the best. Not to mention all the battle themes used in X.
You’re right...
She’s ALIEN.
Alright that’s enough SJW jokes for one day.
 
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I think you're also missing a important adjective for Elma. Almost spoilers territory but an important one.

I'm actually surprised they didn't add primordia theme from X. Out of all the pieces of music its fits Gaur plains the best. Not to mention all the battle themes used in X.
I like Sylvalum's theme more, especially at night <3 every other continent's day theme is more dramatic and the night theme more chill, but it's the inverse for Sylvalum and it WORKS :love:
 

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Only Mira can accurately describe Elma's sexuality. I think the closet human term is Elmasexual.

I like Sylvalum's theme more, especially at night <3 every other continent's day theme is more dramatic and the night theme more chill, but it's the inverse for Sylvalum and it WORKS :love:
The Sylvalum night theme is one of the best songs in X, IMO. With that being said, Cauldros' theme is dramatic regardless of the time of day; it's never chill per se.

But TBH, I think all of X's continent themes could work on Gaur Plains. Ideally, they'd be played on their own stage though lol.
 

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Elma actually gets a decent bit of development in her XB2 DLC. Especially her affinity chart which has a sort of World Tour element; each step of the way you get a conversation between her and some party members. And she gets two gameplay related additions (Overdrive and boss fights) compared to Shulk and Fiora's one (Vision mechanic). Maybe Monolith decided if Smash wasn't going to give any X fanservice they'd have to do it their damn selves.

(And Elma's definitely a humanophile, if not a full blown Earthaboo.)
 

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Humanophile? You make her sound like Azwel from Soul Calibur 6. :secretkpop:

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if she secretly saved Earth mostly for the cats. Humans just happened to be on that planet and an okay species as well.

More on topic, y'all are making the XBC2 DLC sound interesting. I might get it (instead of just watching videos) one day. Especially if they announce Elma for Smash or an X2 game or something.
 

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Well this is interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XU9lz45tKU
https://www.radicalfishgames.com/?p=6581

So it appears Nintendo will make companies fabricate reasons why a game won't come to a console, then do a grand reveal trailer for the said game. We've seen it with Hollow Knight (to an extent) and now we've seen it with CrossCode. What's not to say Monolith Soft was making excuses.

(Don't want to click on the links, first one is to CrossCodes announcement trailer while the second one is to a post on why there won't be a switch version of the game.)
Oh, Wargroove and CrossCode got announced? I still have to try the second one but I heard good things. Yah!
 

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So, it seems some Rex fans behave as if they're "owed" his inclusion and dump on Elma/XCX fans as a result. This. Better. Not be. Another Waluigi situation.


Also, I was thinking of buying the XB2 DLC in physical format before the main game, since it's a little cheaper.
 
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So, it seems some Rex fans behave as if they're "owed" his inclusion and dump on Elma/XCX fans as a result. This. Better. Not be. Another Waluigi situation.


Also, I was thinking of buying the XB2 DLC in physical format before the main game, since it's a little cheaper.
Man, it's hard enough that I support both Elma (especially since I haven't played X) and Rex, which leads me straight to the center of the conflict, but now the vocal minority is trying to make one of them look bad? Why do I have to go through this!? I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG!!!!!!!!
 

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So, it seems some Rex fans behave as if they're "owed" his inclusion and dump on Elma/XCX fans as a result. This. Better. Not be. Another Waluigi situation.


Also, I was thinking of buying the XB2 DLC in physical format before the main game, since it's a little cheaper.
Pretty much everyne feel this for their favorite pick. Nothing new, we have no reason to be against them. Plus some of us support both with a tiny preference. But yeah not a single community has to be as cancer as the Waluigi fanbase.

For the expansion pass I personaly took it digital. I'm not sure if it's really interesting to play Torna before the main game. I just played 5 hours of Torna for now so I can't talk.
 

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So, it seems some Rex fans behave as if they're "owed" his inclusion and dump on Elma/XCX fans as a result. This. Better. Not be. Another Waluigi situation.


Also, I was thinking of buying the XB2 DLC in physical format before the main game, since it's a little cheaper.
I have never played any of the Xenoblade games, but it's really annoying to me when Xenoblades fans and non fans pretend or don't know that X and Elma exists. How could anyone overlook someone as awesome as Elma? Of course Rex & Pyra are the more popular and known pick, but that shouldn't mean Elma should get toss aside for them just because they came from a more successful game. We can live in a world where Elma and Rex & Pyra are in Smash so in that way everybody wins.
 

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So, it seems some Rex fans behave as if they're "owed" his inclusion and dump on Elma/XCX fans as a result. This. Better. Not be. Another Waluigi situation.


Also, I was thinking of buying the XB2 DLC in physical format before the main game, since it's a little cheaper.
Honestly the Xenoblade fanbase has been split since X released though. I got witchhunted by hostile X fans for prefering the original Xenoblade for example.(and my complaints are not the things X haters troll you guys with, but more stuff like the handling off the party system)

I know those fans are just the rotten apples every fanbase has to deal with, but the point I want to make clear is that the fanwars/"bloodfued" has deeper roots then just this Smash war between the Rex thread and Elma thread.

I just want the fanbase to be like it was in the old Smash 4 Shulk thread, because there you atleast had unity and people respecting eachother.
 
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