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ECRC event #2 - XII.E.S.T.I.C.L.E. Results Thread

OverLade

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Any Snake who Ftilts only is ******** and cannot be included in your argument lol. Also Goggles, I know you're a good player and have the potential to make it to the top. You just gotta work hard.
I wasn't being literal. I was using the stereotype of snake players as an example, not that I meant people honestly do that. Most people have learned that trying to rush snake is going to get you 21% anyway, so nobody can spam Ftilt even if they want. What I'm saying, is that Snake really has two options, approach, or force your opponent to approach. Falco for example, can force snake into approaching, but outranges him with reflector, and can run away with Forward B as long as he wants. When this happens, most snake players would get frustrated, because honestly, Snake doesn't have to adapt as much as most characters because Ftilt and grenades usually do that job just fine.
 

OverLade

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Isn't that true of every character? What else is there besides approaching or not approaching?
Well that was badly written. I mean his approach options are pretty predictable. Ftilt, or snakedash.

what does it matter you use metagay........
Snake is MK's hardest matchup, dude. That's why I sub Falco and Kirby. And I didn't jump on the meta bandwagon, I'd been using him since the very beginning. >_>
 

da K.I.D.

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i love how badly falco ***** snake, its comical
falco doesnt really **** snake, based on the reasoning i believe your going on (chaingrab, projectile spam, spike) lucario should **** snake as well.

neither of them do, it can go either way in both matchups
 

JesiahTEG

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I can see why, but if Snake just shield camps it's really hard for Falco to kill him, not to mention Falco dies so early vs Snake.
 

-Nana-

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Even still Falco can chaingrab snake to I think around 20% give or take without him being able to drop a grenade which is easily enough time to get him to the edge and spike> double jump> spike. I think that if they're both good players though, the Snake can learn to get around Falco to an extent even though he counterpicks him.
 

OverLade

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I can see why, but if Snake just shield camps it's really hard for Falco to kill him, not to mention Falco dies so early vs Snake.
But falco his very nice kill setups. Dthrow gives you the option to kill with DAC or set up a kill with a dash attack. Once snake its in the air, Falcos bair will take him out quick.

A good falco will give snake no options, because snake basically HAS to approach, and falco can run away and force snake to approach the whole match.
 
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