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Camalange

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Vex, I want to play you more. I think the MU could go either way, but I didn't play you enough to make a decision :/

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Camalange

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Why do you all hate your characters so much...
idk who exactly "you all" is referring to but, i love Sonic. doesn't mean he's any good :p

i really got to love a character to use him even if he sucks.

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Zucco

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Sure Kai, just come up to me at one point in the day and ill do it.
 

ANTi_

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Inui, let me play Atomsk 1st round in singles.

i need revenge lol.
 

daisho

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I guess it's just me... but I like trying to argue that DKs matchups are as good as I believe they are (which is usually better than what most people think) because I like playing him so much... all the negative thought changes your mindset into believing your character is garbage and you will never try to advance his metagame.

It must be different if your a low tier because I guess you resign yourself to never being higher than mid so you want to argue as bad as possible to stay in low tier tourneys...
 

xxCANDYxx

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You're crazy. Snake might even be worse than what I said. Ike can't get in through grenades AT ALL and even his SPACED moves are extremely punishable with dash attack and f-tilt. Snake actually survives his strong moves and outboxes Ike.

Wario is bad because Ike can't get away from him once Wario hits him. Ike's aerials are all very slow, meaning his only option is to just airdodge, which is extremely predictable and punishable. Ike can't catch a camping Wario. Ike is easily gimped and combo'd by Wario. It's bad.



Ok, with no Snake or MK for either of us. :)
awesomeness....you mean just our mains or we both cant use that character?? i wouldnt mind my mk vs your snake...i love that matchup ^_^....you can also play my wario wolf or marth
 

Kaiber Kop

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I guess it's just me... but I like trying to argue that DKs matchups are as good as I believe they are (which is usually better than what most people think) because I like playing him so much... all the negative thought changes your mindset into believing your character is garbage and you will never try to advance his metagame.

It must be different if your a low tier because I guess you resign yourself to never being higher than mid so you want to argue as bad as possible to stay in low tier tourneys...
A disservice is done to a player who exceeds with a bad character due to skill and not good moves. DK is a good character, Sonic is not. I give no credit to the character for my success.

A love Sonic as a character. I play all of his games, follow the stories, buy the merchandise, etc. From a competitive aspect, I do not blind myself into thinking he is good. Doesn't mean I don't try to get better with him. Instead, I recognize it's me, not the character
 

Vex Kasrani

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I guess it's just me... but I like trying to argue that DKs matchups are as good as I believe they are (which is usually better than what most people think) because I like playing him so much... all the negative thought changes your mindset into believing your character is garbage and you will never try to advance his metagame.

It must be different if your a low tier because I guess you resign yourself to never being higher than mid so you want to argue as bad as possible to stay in low tier tourneys...
I do that with most of Bowser's matchups.
 

Camalange

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I guess it's just me... but I like trying to argue that DKs matchups are as good as I believe they are (which is usually better than what most people think) because I like playing him so much... all the negative thought changes your mindset into believing your character is garbage and you will never try to advance his metagame.
not negative thoughts, just reality. I can't expect to beat top players with top characters if I truley believe Sonic beats MK. I have to understand his strengths and weaknesses, and learn how to cover those weaknesses to the best of my ability in order to PREFORM to the best of my ability. make sense? i'm still looking for ways to make sonic and myself better, but i'm not gonna pick up the game one day and fine sonic can kill snake at 100% with a 2 frame fsmash.

It must be different if your a low tier because I guess you resign yourself to never being higher than mid so you want to argue as bad as possible to stay in low tier tourneys...
if a character is legit mid tier, i would argue so. i believe sonic is low tier is all. I'm not ignorant though that he's one of the better low tiers. i wasn't too surprised he made it to mid but i don't think he belongs there. either way i use captain falcon where sonic is banned at low tier tournies, lol.



now i'd really like to stop this type of discussion. can we move onto more interesting things? lol

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Inui

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I'll MM anyone who wants to fight my Ness.
Ok.

Why do you all hate your characters so much...
Ike is my favorite character. I played Brawl for about 5 hours today, and used Ike for over half of it.

It isn't hate. We just aren't blind to what they are bad against
qft

Inui, let me play Atomsk 1st round in singles.

i need revenge lol.
No.

awesomeness....you mean just our mains or we both cant use that character?? i wouldnt mind my mk vs your snake...i love that matchup ^_^....you can also play my wario wolf or marth
Neither of us can use MK or Snake.

I'll go Ike if you're not using a character that wins by 70/30 or more.
 

Inui

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Round 2?

or 3?
Three is probably as early as I can make it without it being terrible seeding. ChuDat, P~S, Boss, Candy, Fatal, and other top players showing up shakes up the seeding a bit, making it possible for good players to fight earlyish.

You aren't crewmates and you barely play each other, so it could happen.
 

ANTi_

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Three is probably as early as I can make it without it being terrible seeding. ChuDat, P~S, Boss, Candy, Fatal, and other top players showing up shakes up the seeding a bit, making it possible for good players to fight earlyish.

You aren't crewmates and you barely play each other, so it could happen.
*Goes into hyperbolic time chamber*

This is almost good motivation to make me go to this.

Now the ride.. and teammate.
 

Espy Rose

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A disservice is done to a player who exceeds with a bad character due to skill and not good moves. DK is a good character, Sonic is not. I give no credit to the character for my success.

A love Sonic as a character. I play all of his games, follow the stories, buy the merchandise, etc. From a competitive aspect, I do not blind myself into thinking he is good. Doesn't mean I don't try to get better with him. Instead, I recognize it's me, not the character
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I'd sig it if I had room.
 

Alex Strife

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I am gonna try to convince Vanz to come to this so he can show you his awesome puff XD.
 

Kaiber Kop

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Why thank you :). Shame about my typo("a" instead of "I" in part 2) but it's all good :laugh:
 

BleachigoZX

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OMG If MD/VA come and I come. I can play against top players from other regions!! YAY! This would be a big first.
Edit: I'm such a scrub!
 
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