Mew2King
King of the Mews
EASY WAYS TO LASERLOCK
1) 2nd hit of falco's Nair
2) F tilt
3) Dair (more specific to set up
4) ledge get up attack
those are the 4 best ways to get your opponent on the ground to laserlock them
I figured this out last night. Hit them with the last hit of Falco's Nair, and then shoot ground lasers right away, and then you have an EASY LASERLOCK on people! It's amazing, and very easy to do too, I told this to Vidjo last night and he did it right away to his friends several times. Obviously you can get out by DIing or air dodging or teching, but many times people won't do them, and they are screwed after that.
*** THIS ALSO WORKS WITH FALCO'S FORWARD TILT, it's arguably even easier with F tilt but you need to wait longer to start it. ***
*** DAIR ALSO WORKS, BUT ONLY ON FAST FALLING AND HEAVY CHARACTERS ***
Get up attack also works. So that's Nair, F tilt, and Dair and Get up attack that are the 4 easiest ways to start it, pretty much in that order of usefulness, with Nair and F tilt being the most practical (it varies on the character's falling speed too, although the Nair and F tilt are more likely to work as it hits them horizontally and are easier to set up). Down smash probably won't work often unless they don't react well or something.
OBVIOUSLY some characters (esp. Jigglypuff) you are never going to get this to work, as they are in the air too long, but most characters this works on, especially if they DI away.
These are the %s that each of these moves knocks the opponent over (tested in training mode). The left side is F tilt, the middle is Falco's Nair, and the right side is Falco's Dair.
80 54 42 Bowser
78 53 41 DK
77 52 40 Snake
77 52 40 DDD
76 51 39 Charizard
76 51 39 Ganon
75 51 39 Samus
75 51 39 Wario
75 51 39 Yoshi
74 50 39 ROB
74 50 38 Ike *Can't Laserlock from F tilt around 74-76 cuz he falls too fast assuming you kind of spaced the F tilt, but after that you can
74 50 38 C.Falcon *same exact as above
74 50 38 Link *can't start laserlock from F tilt until 83%+ (but if you wait too long he will go too high and will be able to easily double jump)
73 49 38 Wolf
72 49 37 Lucario
72 49 37 Ivysaur
71 48 37 Mario *LASERLOCK DOESN'T WORK
71 48 36 Luigi *LASERLOCK DOESN'T WORK
70 48 36 Sonic *LASERLOCK USUALLY WON'T WORK
70 47 36 Pit
70 47 36 Ness
70 47 36 Lucas
69 47 35 Diddy
69 47 35 Toon Link
69 47 35 ICs *NANA WILL STOP THE LASERLOCK QUICKLY
68 46 35 Peach
67 45 34 Marth
66 45 33 Zelda
66 45 33 Sheik
65 44 33 Falco
65 44 33 Olimar
64 44 32 ZSS *LASERLOCK USUALLY WON'T WORK
64 44 32 Fox
64 43 32 Pikachu
64 43 32 Metaknight
63 43 32 Kirby
62 42 31 GW
62 42 31 Squirtle
59 40 29 Jigglypuff
^^^ THIS ALSO GOES IN ORDER BY CHARACTER WEIGHT (true weight, see my weight topic on allisbrawl or general brawl discussion for more info on that)
other people that you can infinite include ICs Ice Blocks (Chu did this in tourney after down throw -> nana Fair at like I think 30%+ or so), Pikachu jabs (after Nair?), Metaknight down tilt (after weak nair or on slopes maybe?) Squirtle Jabs (after fair/bair?), Link jabs (after boomerang), Mario jabs (after Nair, but Luigi jabs don't seem to work), Sonic jabs (after Nair), Ness jabs (after you dair them from the air into the ground, I dunno), Kirby jabs (after a close up B so the last hit of final cutter misses), and Jigglypuff jabs (after aerials). Samus works too (her jabs don't hit low though) and so does Olimar in a corner, I dunno what else does.
also I might as well say this here too; here are the %s for Mario's Nair, and Sonic's Nair, to knock people over (Mario on left, Sonic on right)
Here's the %s for Mario's Nair, and Sonic's Nair, to knock people over (Mario on left, Sonic on right)
45 43 Bowser
44 42 DK
44 42 Snake
43 41 DDD
43 41 Charizard
43 41 Ganon
42 40 Samus
42 40 Wario
42 40 Yoshi
42 40 ROB
42 40 Ike
41 39 C.Falcon
41 39 Link
41 39 Wolf
40 38 Lucario
40 38 Ivysaur
40 38 Mario
40 38 Luigi
39 37 Sonic
39 37 Pit
39 37 Ness
39 37 Lucas
39 37 Diddy
38 36 Toon Link
38 36 ICs
38 36 Peach
37 35 Marth
37 35 Zelda
37 35 Sheik
36 34 Falco
36 34 Olimar
36 34 ZSS
35 34 Fox
35 33 Pikachu
35 33 Metaknight
35 33 Kirby
34 32 GW
34 32 Squirtle
32 31 Jigglypuff
1) 2nd hit of falco's Nair
2) F tilt
3) Dair (more specific to set up
4) ledge get up attack
those are the 4 best ways to get your opponent on the ground to laserlock them
I figured this out last night. Hit them with the last hit of Falco's Nair, and then shoot ground lasers right away, and then you have an EASY LASERLOCK on people! It's amazing, and very easy to do too, I told this to Vidjo last night and he did it right away to his friends several times. Obviously you can get out by DIing or air dodging or teching, but many times people won't do them, and they are screwed after that.
*** THIS ALSO WORKS WITH FALCO'S FORWARD TILT, it's arguably even easier with F tilt but you need to wait longer to start it. ***
*** DAIR ALSO WORKS, BUT ONLY ON FAST FALLING AND HEAVY CHARACTERS ***
Get up attack also works. So that's Nair, F tilt, and Dair and Get up attack that are the 4 easiest ways to start it, pretty much in that order of usefulness, with Nair and F tilt being the most practical (it varies on the character's falling speed too, although the Nair and F tilt are more likely to work as it hits them horizontally and are easier to set up). Down smash probably won't work often unless they don't react well or something.
OBVIOUSLY some characters (esp. Jigglypuff) you are never going to get this to work, as they are in the air too long, but most characters this works on, especially if they DI away.
These are the %s that each of these moves knocks the opponent over (tested in training mode). The left side is F tilt, the middle is Falco's Nair, and the right side is Falco's Dair.
80 54 42 Bowser
78 53 41 DK
77 52 40 Snake
77 52 40 DDD
76 51 39 Charizard
76 51 39 Ganon
75 51 39 Samus
75 51 39 Wario
75 51 39 Yoshi
74 50 39 ROB
74 50 38 Ike *Can't Laserlock from F tilt around 74-76 cuz he falls too fast assuming you kind of spaced the F tilt, but after that you can
74 50 38 C.Falcon *same exact as above
74 50 38 Link *can't start laserlock from F tilt until 83%+ (but if you wait too long he will go too high and will be able to easily double jump)
73 49 38 Wolf
72 49 37 Lucario
72 49 37 Ivysaur
71 48 37 Mario *LASERLOCK DOESN'T WORK
71 48 36 Luigi *LASERLOCK DOESN'T WORK
70 48 36 Sonic *LASERLOCK USUALLY WON'T WORK
70 47 36 Pit
70 47 36 Ness
70 47 36 Lucas
69 47 35 Diddy
69 47 35 Toon Link
69 47 35 ICs *NANA WILL STOP THE LASERLOCK QUICKLY
68 46 35 Peach
67 45 34 Marth
66 45 33 Zelda
66 45 33 Sheik
65 44 33 Falco
65 44 33 Olimar
64 44 32 ZSS *LASERLOCK USUALLY WON'T WORK
64 44 32 Fox
64 43 32 Pikachu
64 43 32 Metaknight
63 43 32 Kirby
62 42 31 GW
62 42 31 Squirtle
59 40 29 Jigglypuff
^^^ THIS ALSO GOES IN ORDER BY CHARACTER WEIGHT (true weight, see my weight topic on allisbrawl or general brawl discussion for more info on that)
other people that you can infinite include ICs Ice Blocks (Chu did this in tourney after down throw -> nana Fair at like I think 30%+ or so), Pikachu jabs (after Nair?), Metaknight down tilt (after weak nair or on slopes maybe?) Squirtle Jabs (after fair/bair?), Link jabs (after boomerang), Mario jabs (after Nair, but Luigi jabs don't seem to work), Sonic jabs (after Nair), Ness jabs (after you dair them from the air into the ground, I dunno), Kirby jabs (after a close up B so the last hit of final cutter misses), and Jigglypuff jabs (after aerials). Samus works too (her jabs don't hit low though) and so does Olimar in a corner, I dunno what else does.
also I might as well say this here too; here are the %s for Mario's Nair, and Sonic's Nair, to knock people over (Mario on left, Sonic on right)
Here's the %s for Mario's Nair, and Sonic's Nair, to knock people over (Mario on left, Sonic on right)
45 43 Bowser
44 42 DK
44 42 Snake
43 41 DDD
43 41 Charizard
43 41 Ganon
42 40 Samus
42 40 Wario
42 40 Yoshi
42 40 ROB
42 40 Ike
41 39 C.Falcon
41 39 Link
41 39 Wolf
40 38 Lucario
40 38 Ivysaur
40 38 Mario
40 38 Luigi
39 37 Sonic
39 37 Pit
39 37 Ness
39 37 Lucas
39 37 Diddy
38 36 Toon Link
38 36 ICs
38 36 Peach
37 35 Marth
37 35 Zelda
37 35 Sheik
36 34 Falco
36 34 Olimar
36 34 ZSS
35 34 Fox
35 33 Pikachu
35 33 Metaknight
35 33 Kirby
34 32 GW
34 32 Squirtle
32 31 Jigglypuff
Loving this list.