E3 2014 - Super Smash Bros. Invitational - Players/Rules Announced

[aliensalmon]

I wish I could be content with the atmosphere of eager Smash Bros. fans, but that certainly isn't enough for me. In fact, it sounds a little repugnant.

It's an acquired taste and not for everyone, I guess.

 

[Gameboi834]

In fact, it sounds a little repugnant.

Even I though I kinda detest social gatherings (especially ones that make me seem sociable), I'm hyped to try out the game.

 

[dezeray112]

I am not sure; no one is. But I would wager that most of EVO 2014's Top 8 would be included.

To be honest, I'm not too sure as well. I probably assume that some of the participants who competed in last year's Melee tournament at EVO 2013 would get the invitation. But who knows?

 

[Protom]

What if sakurai invites some players to who were good at a certain character (meta knight in brawl, cant falcon in melee) and reveals those characters in a trailer, and then has the players demonstrate them?

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

So did some math. Its probably safe to guess that for the sake of time, Best Buy matches will be two minute, 4-player FFA's. Last year the Best Buy I went to had a decent amount of people, definitely around the 100-person mark, however there was only one set-up. I'm sure there were other areas with much more people, but lets say your local Best Buy has (somehow) only 100 people in attendance. Each match will take at least 2 minutes on it's own, character and stage selection time, as well as potential sudden death matches, so each round will be around 2.5 minutes at best maybe 4 minutes at worst. With 100 people there will be 25 groups of 4. This means from the end of the line, it will take 62.5 - 100 minutes to play Smash Bros.

This is also only if they don't announce any additional games for Best Buy demoes (In fact I'm willing to bet Mario Kart will be playable there as well), which probably wont have a hard time limit like Smash will have. And as I said, plenty of places will have way more than 100 people, meaning if you wanna play again you will probably be waiting two hours at least, at an event that last year only lasted four. In other words, they better have more than just the one set-up this time.

 

[Morbi]

To be honest, I'm not too sure as well. I probably assume that some of the participants who competed in last year's Melee tournament at EVO 2013 would get the invitation. But who knows?

Yes, I meant to say 2013; I derped and typed 2014. I am used to typing out the date, I suppose.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

This is easily the best marketing decision Nintendo has made in a stupidly long time. This is already contending to be the best E3 for Nintendo since 2010.

What would've been even better is if Nintendo planned on offering demos at the Nintendo eShop, but knowing the company, that won't be happening.

 

[Morbi]

What would've been even better is if Nintendo planned on offering demos at the Nintendo eShop, but knowing the company, that won't be happening.

That would have been far more hype; but you know... if that happened... who the hell would go to Best Buy?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

That would have been far more hype; but you know... if that happened... who the hell would go to Best Buy?

It is a double-edged sword, but like I've said before, not everyone has the luxury of going to the participating Best Buy stores. I'm just fortunate that I don't live far from the Best Buy that did the E3 2013 event, but that doesn't really matter if only one Wii U system was implemented.

 

[YT123]

This has given me hope that E3 will be amazing!

 

[Ravio_Yo]

(In fact I'm willing to bet Mario Kart will be playable there as well)

Even if it was, it wouldn't draw that many people, seeing as how it would already be out at the time.

 

[Falco865]

They will definitely want some girls in the tournament and I doubt they would pick anyone who might be critical of the new game. Also doubt they would pick someone like Mango who is known for being a raging alcoholic.

 

[Morbi]

It is a double-edged sword, but like I've said before, not everyone has the luxury of going to the participating Best Buy stores. I'm just fortunate that I don't live far from the Best Buy that did the E3 2013 event, but that doesn't really matter if only one Wii U system was implemented.

I know what you mean, the closest Best Buy in my area is 30-40 (depending on traffic) minutes away. I am not sure if it is worth the time/gas money for presumably one FFA match that I may or may not be able to play with my sister. So I am probably going to skip it.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I know what you mean, the closest Best Buy in my area is 30-40 (depending on traffic) minutes away. I am not sure if it is worth the time/gas money for presumably one FFA match that I may or may not be able to play with my sister. So I am probably going to skip it.

There's also the fact that you may not have the option of customizing your controls before doing a match, nor would you have the time to at least practice with the newcomers.

 

[Jigglymaster]

This is also only if they don't announce any additional games for Best Buy demoes (In fact I'm willing to bet Mario Kart will be playable there as well),

And then there will be that one guy who takes his turn to play the Mario Kart Demo instead of playing smash bros.

"Which game would ya like to play sir? Smash Bros, or Mario Kart?" Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Mario Kart!

 

[DaDavid]

There's also the fact that you may not have the option of customizing your controls before doing a match, nor would you have the time to at least practice with the newcomers.

Yeah there will sadly just be absolutely no time for that. This is going to be a baby taste at most for everybody unless they implement more booths this time around.

It's certainly not something that everyone can attend, but in my opinion it's the perfect balance between traditional E3 presence and just straight eShop demo. It still generates the hype of a big event that simply isn't achievable via a demo, while still giving people something to try out and rave about.

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

Even if it was, it wouldn't draw that many people, seeing as how it would already be out at the time.

The fact it will be out is why I think it'll be playable. Granted most people there that day will be there for Smash Bros. But what about the people that are just there to do shopping, or don't have a Wii U yet. Smash might entertain them while they're there, but it won't be out till Winter, which leaves them plenty of time to forget about the experience and for any hype they got to die down. Mario Kart however, will be already out, which gives them much more of a reason to leave the store with a Wii U.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

No reason to have a Mario Kart 8 demo at E3 2014 when the game is finally out in stores, and their demos are actually available to try out at Target or GameStop.

 

[SnappyJ]

And then there will be that one guy who takes his turn to play the Mario Kart Demo instead of playing smash bros.

"Which game would ya like to play sir? Smash Bros, or Mario Kart?" Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Mario Kart!

But Mario Kart is coming out before E3 though (May 30th). So would they even have it at Best Buy for the E3 demos? I would imagine Mario Kart won't even be at E3. Unless of course they announce some sort of season pass DLC.

 

[DaDavid]

The fact it will be out is why I think it'll be playable. Granted most people there that day will be there for Smash Bros. But what about the people that are just there to do shopping, or don't have a Wii U yet. Smash might entertain them while they're, but it won't be out till Winter, which leaves them plenty of time to forget about the experience and for any hype they got to die down. Mario Kart however, will be already out, which gives them much more of a reason to leave the store with a Wii U.

I get what you're saying but then Nintendo would just be making hype for one thing compete with hype for another. I have no doubt that Mario Kart 8 will be available in demo form by E3 at stores across the country, but there's no point to dedicate attention to it during this particular, seemingly very Smash focused event.

 

[Jigglymaster]

But Mario Kart is coming out before E3 though (May 30th). So would they even have it at Best Buy for the E3 demos? I would imagine Mario Kart won't even be at E3. Unless of course they announce some sort of season pass DLC.

That's the joke. at last years Best buy all the demos were on the same game and a person got to pick which one they wanted to play. Another person suggested Mario Kart could be there as a demo too, despite it already being out at that time, which wouldn't make any sense as to why anyone would pick it over smash bros.

 

[Dark Phazon]

What games were playable at Bestbuy last E3
just MK?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

What games were playable at Bestbuy last E3
just MK?

Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, and The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD.

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

I get what you're saying but then Nintendo would just be making hype for one thing compete with hype for another. I have no doubt that Mario Kart 8 will be available in demo form by E3 at stores across the country, but there's no point to dedicate attention to it during this particular, seemingly very Smash focused event.

Would they really be competing though? Smash Bros won't be out for months. Plenty of time to get both games.

But Mario Kart is coming out before E3 though (May 30th). So would they even have it at Best Buy for the E3 demos? I would imagine Mario Kart won't even be at E3. Unless of course they announce some sort of season pass DLC.

I'm pretty sure a game being out hasn't stopped it from showing up from show floors. Mario Kart 8 will also have a year long marketing push and is at the moment, one of the Wii U's only hopes, the other being Smash Bros. It probably won't be covered by the press, but it will definitely be at E3 to play.

 

[Morbi]

Agreed; Mario Kart is the definitive Wii U console-seller. I am sure it will also be available at Best Buy BECAUSE of Smash. You attract Nintendo fans by including an exclusive demo, while you are waiting, there is a demo of Mario Kart 8. They don't compete, there is just dual-promotion.

 

[Dark Phazon]

http://wiiudaily.com/2014/04/nintendos-marketing-campaign-for-mario-kart-8-will-last-all-year/

Thanks for that M&SG
going by that Link which is not that suprising but still suprising since they said all year!

I could seee MK8 Having a demo there even though the gane will be out also Yarn Yoshi not too sure what else though......

Mario Kart is Nintendo's Justin Beiber/One Direction if you know what i mean except its good and is loved by people who have hair on there bodies other than their head.

 

[Rich Homie Quan]

Why do I have the feeling that they'll invite a bunch of average players who are unknown to smash but can play decently fast and make it seem like a pro match to the average person?

 

[slicesabre]

Why do I have the feeling that they'll invite a bunch of average players who are unknown to smash but can play decently fast and make it seem like a pro match to the average person?

Have faith I'm sure they'll have some people in it that the FGC knows.

 

[Dark Phazon]

Why do I have the feeling that they'll invite a bunch of average players who are unknown to smash but can play decently fast and make it seem like a pro match to the average person?

Imo it doesnt Exzactly have to be ManG0/Armada/M2K or someone like that.

Just someone who is familar with the game Smashes controls are simple they were quite a few people who were very good at the MK8 Demo at bestbuy last E3 therss vids on youtube i have seen.

Trust me they will be tones of gameplay and people wont be shy to go beast mode.

 

[Kenith]

You know, the announcement video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghEhI4CJjAM&feature=youtu.be

It has Ghirahim's main theme and his battle theme.

Probably because his music sounds funny out of context.

Also, hearing that music while Reggie storms around the Nintendo HQ is the best thing I've seen in weeks.

 

[Falco865]

So do we know for sure they will. Be inviting real pros like Ken and m2k or could it very well end up just being people from sites like ign and rooster teeth?

 

[TewnLeenk]

This is actually really cool of them to do. Thanks, Nintendo!

Anyways, what characters do you think will be available for the Invitational?

 

[Dark Phazon]

So do we know for sure they will. Be inviting real pros like Ken and m2k or could it very well end up just being people from sites like ign and rooster teeth?

As far as i know we dont know yet but im sure we will be the first to know if Mang0 or M2K are invited.

 

[ChikoLad]

An eShop demo for Smash would be amazing, especially for those of us unlucky (???) enough to live outside of North America. I'm not counting on it at all, but it would be cool if they released one a week after the show.

You know what would REALLY help Nintendo steal the show? If they released Smash 3DS the day of the tournament. Or at least announced it to be released a week or two later. They'd have won E3 for sure if they did that!

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

This is actually really cool of them to do. Thanks, Nintendo!

Anyways, what characters do you think will be available for the Invitational?

If I were to guess, the characters who are confirmed before E3 2014.

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

At best, every character revealed by the time the tournament starts. At worst, the 2013 debut characters, all the revealed newcomers and Sonic.

 

[Dark Phazon]

An eShop demo for Smash would be amazing, especially for those of us unlucky (???) enough to live outside of North America. I'm not counting on it at all, but it would be cool if they released one a week after the show.

You know what would REALLY help Nintendo steal the show? If they released Smash 3DS the day of the tournament. Or at least announced it to be released a week or two later. They'd have won E3 for sure if they did that!

I wouldnt bet on that but im not gonna lie maybe its the hype running through my veins shouting July is possible and not Mid or Late August like i have been expecting.

I dont wanna think September...that would be taking the piss....like MK8 Spring May30... :/

 

[Brickbuild101]

Will this be the 3DS version or both?

Wii U only.

 

[ChikoLad]

The press release does say:

Thousands of fans in the audience and countless more watching a live stream online will see new Super Smash Bros. characters clash with existing favorites in action for the first time.

So we'll definitely see some newcomer action at the tournament.

I think it's a given that Mario, Kirby, and Pit will all be playable too. Beyond that, I don't really know.

 

[Dark Phazon]

At best, every character revealed by the time the tournament starts. At worst, the 2013 debut characters, all the revealed newcomers and Sonic.

I know things could change and its just a demo but maybe you could say we will know what the starting roster will be or atleast have something to go off.