Event - E3 Invitational 2014 E3 2014 Rumor/Leak Discussion Thread

[Pieman0920]

Link to where he said this?

Its on /v/ right now.

this is the last pic i could get while testing out the booth. wanted to show both versions 1 for public and 1 for tourny. tourny has megaman and mac

That's what he said with the last picture that focuses in on Sonic, Mac, and MM.

 

[Con0rrrr]

I'm gonna go on a computer to update the Pro/Con List. Been on an iPad this whole time. Swampasaur there's some disucssion on r/smashbros on the smudges. Sort by new and you will see it

 

[GamerGuy09]

So...

We gonna talk about the smudges?

What are you talking about?

 

[CaptainCrisb]

Snake and Pac Man are highly likely now, right? Right?

 

[ChunkyBeef]

What are you talking about?

One of the pictures has smudges on them that looks similar to dried up water or dirt or something.

 

[Luigi#1]

I think it's fake because if it were a demo then it would look like

 

[ChikoLad]

OK, so I have spotted a few questionable details in this leak:

-Every single graphic looks awfully jagged. This isn't a problem if it's for the 3DS version, but for the Wii U version? There is no way your 2D graphics are going to look that jagged in a HD game. The graphics for the "For Fun" and "For Glory" menu look really clean in the direct, as do the character portraits on the website. Yet these menu icons are smaller, yet seem really jagged and pixelated.

And a low quality camera like the one used would not pick up on these jaggies either.

-The "P1 token" looks very amateurish, I could whip that up in two minutes within Photoshop. It also clashes with the style of past Smash Bros games, and looks completely soulless. Here is Brawl's for reference:

-Why would a demo show unlockable character slots?

-Why is Bowser missing? While I can't really prove this, I feel like he would be in the demo, since he was one of the first characters shown, and he has received a lot of changes.

 

[Shroob]

Snake and Pac Man are highly likely now, right? Right?

No, just Pac.

 

[Deleted member]

A very minor yet important detail that we should all be aware of:

Taken straight from the official website, WFT's name is stylized as Wii Fit TRAINER. However, check out her portrait in the photo of the character select screen, and well...

...WII FIT TRAINER instead of Wii Fit TRAINER. Again, this is such a tiny detail, but it's something I noticed.

Just more of a reason to just wait till E3. *cries in a corner*

 

[Silvera]

I think it's fake because if it were a demo then it would look like

Nah.

 

[aldelaro5]

going to be honest, the sal leak is more credible than this one.

 

[GamerGuy09]

Found the Post: http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/26ew7x/on_the_3_leaked_images_of_the_character_select/

 

[Hinata]

Can we really base our arguments on "It should look like ____" and "____ shouldn't look like this"? Sakurai is an unpredictable game developer, any of the things we see that conflict with past things could've just been changes made to Smash 4.

 

[Deleted member]

I think it's fake because if it were a demo then it would look like

I'm not saying you are definitely wrong, but just because it is the same series doesn't mean that every thing right down to demo menus have to be the same. They could just be doing it differently.

 

[GamerGuy09]

Can we really base our arguments on "It should look like ____" and "____ shouldn't look like this"? Sakurai is an unpredictable game developer, any of the things we see that conflict with past things could've just been changes made to Smash 4.

The one true counter-argument is why didn't he show us Ridley if he could? The explanation would be that he doesn't have official looking art for it to be clearly visible.

 

[Hinata]

The one true counter-argument is why didn't he show us Ridley if he could? The explanation would be that he doesn't have official looking art for it to be clearly visible.

I will concede, that is strange. And plus, it's very common for fake leakers to tease Ridley. But I dunno. I have no strong opinion on this leak. I simply wish to lay out the facts.

 

[aldelaro5]

Found the Post: http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/26ew7x/on_the_3_leaked_images_of_the_character_select/

ah... now I believe this is fake now. If it's the case, can we agree that this leak was well made?

EDIT not to mention he clearly claimed to have token these shots shortly before the upload but those marks on the screen wouldn't make any sense if it's true.

 

[Neo Zero]

The one true counter-argument is why didn't he show us Ridley if he could? The explanation would be that he doesn't have official looking art for it to be clearly visible.

Can anyone ask him about the Y slot besides Pit?

 

[Con0rrrr]

Can we really base our arguments on "It should look like ____" and "____ shouldn't look like this"? Sakurai is an unpredictable game developer, any of the things we see that conflict with past things could've just been changes made to Smash 4.

This. People are making questions like "why are they showing locks?' and "why does the CSS look odd?". It's a different game people. Stuff changes. Changes support the leak because most play it safe while this one does not. This is a Sakurai thing to do (change the menu).

Also, people reply me with some new pros/cons from the last one. I know smudges are a con, jagginess?, tournament/casual versions of the demo. I think I may add an "either way" category that is info that is neither for or against the leak.

 

[ChikoLad]

Can we really base our arguments on "It should look like ____" and "____ shouldn't look like this"? Sakurai is an unpredictable game developer, any of the things we see that conflict with past things could've just been changes made to Smash 4.

But the graphics shouldn't look so jagged. This is not a stylistic thing, this is a technical thing. Not only does the online menu in the direct look crystal clear, but no AAA HD game is going to have TWO-DIMENSIONAL graphics that jagged.

 

[ToothiestAura]

Wait, wait, am I missing something? This leaked image isn't showing anything new, so who even cares if its real or fake? This literally the most boring leak ever.
Plus, the CSS adds the character squares on after unlocking, they aren't present with a lock on them. That's just ****ing stupid.

 

[Luigi#1]

Nah.

 

[Con0rrrr]

ah... now I believe this is fake now. If it's the case, can we agree that this leak was well made?

See, if it was faked. Why would new stains closer to WFT disprove the leak? Sure it's odd. But what's disproves it? He wouldn't photoshop on more stains. That just does not make sense. I do not see how this is evidence against it.

 

[GamerGuy09]

Wait, wait, am I missing something? This leaked image isn't showing anything new, so who even cares if its real or fake? This literally the most boring leak ever.
Plus, the CSS adds the character squares on after unlocking, they aren't present with a lock on them. That's just ****ing stupid.

In Melee there were character squares. However there were more characters than squares say though.

 

[CaptainCrisb]

Wait, wait, am I missing something? This leaked image isn't showing anything new, so who even cares if its real or fake? This literally the most boring leak ever.
Plus, the CSS adds the character squares on after unlocking, they aren't present with a lock on them. That's just ****ing stupid.

People are flipping out because this leak shows off the final amount of characters and their placement, which allows everyone else to fit the puzzle together...

 

[Hinata]

But the graphics shouldn't look so jagged. This is not a stylistic thing, this is a technical thing. Not only does the online menu in the direct look crystal clear, but no AAA HD game is going to have TWO-DIMENSIONAL graphics that jagged.

You're right, they shouldn't. We can't blame it on the fact that these pics are so close up either, because then, theoretically, we'd just see how HD the graphics truly were.

 

[LightningVance]

But the graphics shouldn't look so jagged. This is not a stylistic thing, this is a technical thing. Not only does the online menu in the direct look crystal clear, but no AAA HD game is going to have TWO-DIMENSIONAL graphics that jagged.

Logical explanation would be that the menu in the direct was a direct feed video of the game, streamed in HD, whereas this could be a non-HD tv which would easily distort the quality of the picture

 

[Gameboi834]

Plus, the CSS adds the character squares on after unlocking, they aren't present with a lock on them. That's just ****ing stupid.

It's almost as if this were a different game. Weird, right?

 

[Luigi#1]

I'm not saying you are definitely wrong, but just because it is the same series doesn't mean that every thing right down to demo menus have to be the same. They could just be doing it differently.

But they could do it so easily, and it's not easy on the eyes with all of those unlockables.
We'll see this E3.

 

[CaptainCrisb]

Ugh, this is hurting my head. I'm taking a break real quick.

 

[GamerGuy09]

Even if this leak is fake, (which it may be). Thanks for making this day not boring.

 

[The Light Music Club]

Does anyone else notice how they are reusing the blueish background behind each character from SSBB wouldn't they get a new background color?

 

[aldelaro5]

See, if it was faked. Why would new stains closer to WFT disprove the leak? Sure it's odd. But what's disproves it? He wouldn't photoshop on more stains. That just does not make sense. I do not see how this is evidence against it.

Edited my post. Since the last shot was gave with a comment describing that it was the last shot he could have taken from the boot sugest that he too the shots and uploaded shortly after. But if there's more mark on the screen over the time, then how in a period of like an hour could have more mark on the screen? To me, it suggest that the pictures could have been taken at different moment which would disprove this leak.

 

[Con0rrrr]

Ugh, this is hurting my head. I'm taking a break real quick.

I feel ya. Between new info, remaking pro/con list. And most of all, new people trying to disprove the leak with info we have already countered.

Edited my post. Since the last shot was gave with a comment describing that it was the last shot he could have taken from the boot sugest that he too the shots and uploaded shortly after. But if there's more mark on the screen over the time, then how in a period of like an hour could have more mark on the screen? To me, it suggest that the pictures could have been taken at different moment which would disprove this leak.

How does different time disprove it though?

 

[GamerGuy09]

Does anyone else notice how they are reusing the blueish background behind each character from SSBB wouldn't they get a new background color?

Yeah, I thought they were going to stylize it like the SmashBros.com website, in which there is a static color behind the character. Melee had a mugshot style with the character select screen.

 

[Hinata]

There's too much conflicting evidence for us to make any rational conclusion at this point. We need some solid evidence, no matter what side it advocates.

 

[ToothiestAura]

It's almost as if this were a different game. Weird, right?

Well, I suppose it could have been changed. But it is just as likely that it hasn't changed.

 

[ChikoLad]

Logical explanation would be that the menu in the direct was a direct feed video of the game, streamed in HD, whereas this could be a non-HD tv which would easily distort the quality of the picture

The problem with that is that it's only the character icons/icons we have not seen before that are jagged. The things ripped from the direct, or anything that could be a simple vector graphic, looks just fine.

Also, a demo for a HD game in 2014 is going to be displayed on a HD display. Everyone has HD displays in their offices and homes these days, it's as common as having a toaster.

 

[APC99]

I came up with a small analysis on the roster.

Alright, so this was the roster we saw for sure. Below are confirmed characters not included.

Added them into it, and then considered the most obvious returning veterans.

Here's what we basically predict. Then, I add the questionable characters: Lucas, Wolf, Snake, R.O.B. and Mewtwo.

Add in some Sal Romano, I noticed that there was a strange build then. To be safe, I added one more row of 3, one being a random button.

I then considered what was left: A Metroid, a DK and an unknown. Ridley and K. Rool, and for the sake of the argument, Takamaru.

Not too bad of a roster.

 

[The Light Music Club]

Yeah, I thought they were going to stylize it like the SmashBros.com website, in which there is a static color behind the character. Melee had a mugshot style with the character select screen.

Yeah, they should at least have something different, not the exact same thing as before.