Dr. Who Mafia, Endgame! Town wins! The universe is doomed!

[ranmaru]

Ok Kary you asked him a question and he responded. Now I have a question.

Why are you asking Orbo questions about ZenTOwn possibilities? I mean, how do these questions help you find scum in Orbo?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

The same one, where Zen skated through the day, voted Ran for literally no reason and admitted to it well into the day, and then trip whipped a huge case out of nowhere when he hadn't even put pressure on either me or pawn prior to that when we were "obvscum". I've seen zen ragequit before when he feels things aren't going his way.

hmmm

Continuing a push on the tracker as non-tracker town is anti-town.

good point. very good point.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Ok Kary you asked him a question and he responded. Now I have a question.

Why are you asking Orbo questions about ZenTOwn possibilities? I mean, how do these questions help you find scum in Orbo?

I'm trying to evaluate why Orbo wants Zen dead. If I ask Orbo why he thinks Zen is scum, Orbo's probably going to say 'because he claimed tracker'.

 

[ranmaru]

And if he did say that?

 

[Orboknown]

what is your zen read atm kary?
what were your reads on us going into the day?
^above question can also be answered by J

 

[ranmaru]

Soup whenever you get a chance post because we need to talk about you starting to care about the game/my case/kary/zenpartners

I am not offended it's no big deal but I think from here on out I think it's important to the game you start doing so.

 

[ranmaru]

Also Kary. Who's scum on ZenSCUM flip?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

And if he did say that?

it would be null and tell me nothing

what is your zen read atm kary?
what were your reads on us going into the day?
^above question can also be answered by J

right now my zen read is obviously tied to my read on you. I had thought that you could both be town, which is something I was looking at, and worried about. But as Ran said I don't know why Zen would continue to push you as non-tracker town, that just looks really bad.

admittedly, Zen's play looks pretty screwy whether he's town or scum. but now that i'm getting a better read on you i'm more inclined to think that Zen is scum. there's a lot of his play that needs explaining.

I had you as null, and Zen as lean town, I'm pretty sure I mentioned both at some point.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Also Kary. Who's scum on ZenSCUM flip?

I would say one of soup/J. I have a hunch which one but it could be either.

I don't think it's you based on your reaction to Zen's play toDay, and I still don't think Scary is scum.

 

[ranmaru]

admittedly, Zen's play looks pretty screwy whether he's town or scum. but now that i'm getting a better read on you i'm more inclined to think that Zen is scum. there's a lot of his play that needs explaining.

You're right. There is alot. For example, Zen voting me for no reason, then saying he's fine with me dying, then saying he just said that to see who would jump on that and had me as town, then back to switching to being fine with me dying. Orbo brings up a great point that Zen was doing nothing and not even pressure but does come out with a CASE that is only meant to lynch Pawn + Orbo. Zen Claimed scum but WHY did he do that? He didn't explain or give results on that either. He just left his vote on Orbo and did nothing else but call me a dummy.

 

[ranmaru]

Scary you seem to have a scum read on me because I was wrong, but you have to realize that being wrong is just part of the game. Sure I shouldn't have been so arrogant, but I genuinely did feel I was right.

This doesn't sit well with me. Zen's attitude changes here. It's as if he is talking down to Scary so he could get him off of him, acting 'sincere' as if he really was re-evaluating his own arrogance.

 

[Orboknown]

ran you think kary scum after all this?

 

[ranmaru]

Yes I do. If not Kary then J.

 

[ranmaru]

Also talk to me about your read on Soup

 

[Orboknown]

null town. The points J's raised and his apathetic-ness wrt the game has me edging back form the townlean I had after his catchup.

 

[ranmaru]

I think I went over it here: #559

I have him as town. I just think he reacted poorly, but that doesn't show scum intent imo.

 

[ranmaru]

Like he doesn't emit obv townieness because he isn't doing much, but I just get a town feel from him. Nothing bad coming from him, but not enough either. Yet I'd really wish he'd get into the game. I hope that a Zen Scum flip would motivate him enough to pick stuff up.

 

[Orboknown]

Yea that sums it up nicely @777

 

[Xivii]

I think Ran is actual tracker.

 

[ranmaru]

Why's that zen

 

[Xivii]

Your refusal to see me as tracker when I had NO CCs in an open set up.

 

[Xivii]

Unvote

 

[Orboknown]

the thing is, you still had people available to CC. You're trying to paint it as me lying to keep your scumread.

 

[Xivii]

I'm not trying to paint it as anything. You're scum. Why would you be voting me when you KNOW 100% I'm clear? Even though I think you're scum, you should still be trying to convince me that you're town, but yet you still go after me when you know for fact that I can't be scum?

 

[ranmaru]

Your refusal to see me as tracker when I had NO CCs in an open set up.

That's a bit too obvious for me to do as tracker. Why the hell would I do that? That's bad play you know.

 

[ranmaru]

I'm not trying to paint it as anything. You're scum. Why would you be voting me when you KNOW 100% I'm clear? Even though I think you're scum, you should still be trying to convince me that you're town, but yet you still go after me when you know for fact that I can't be scum?

blahblah blah zen why are you saying he's scum when you unvoted

 

[Orboknown]

Requesting Vote Count
gonna ge grab my paycheck. bbl

 

[ranmaru]

Kary why are you lurking say something will ya

Or is it a Kary thing to do to lurk

 

[Xivii]

Ran then you are scum.

It's either:
Ran tracker Orbo scum
Or Ran scum Orbo stupidity

And because Ran I'm not an imbecile. I've been waiting for you to come out and be like iight so im actually tracker, but if you really aren't then of course Orbo has to be. I just don't understand why Orbo would be dense enough to ignore his clear on me just because I was claiming tracker when he even said that I am known to do so as town.

 

[Orboknown]

I'm not trying to paint it as anything. You're scum. Why would you be voting me when you KNOW 100% I'm clear? Even though I think you're scum, you should still be trying to convince me that you're town, but yet you still go after me when you know for fact that I can't be scum?

You aren't 100% clear. Two scum. There's a possibility you didn't send in the kill/.

 

[Xivii]

Requesting Vote Count
gonna ge grab my paycheck. bbl

Answer first!

 

[ranmaru]

I'm obviously not tracker. It's between you and Orbo.

You are the scum zen.

Don't try to fight it.

 

[ranmaru]

Zen you know you love being town. Betray your scumself and vote yourself.

Be free.

 

[Xivii]

You aren't 100% clear. Two scum. There's a possibility you didn't send in the kill/.

*facepalm* dude you're supposed to be an IC this game. It doesn't matter WHICH of the scum sends in the kill. They move as a single unit. The only time it's individual is like if there's a hitman or when the mod specifies specific abilities to each scum. Which we know isn't the case here.

 

[ranmaru]

Kary I want your thoughts on Zen's recent take back on his tracker thing.

STAT

 

[Xivii]

I wonder when Ran will realize no one is listening to him.

I need to reevaluate a bit for the scum team. I'll be gone for the day however and will be back tonight.

 

[ranmaru]

*facepalm* dude you're supposed to be an IC this game. It doesn't matter WHICH of the scum sends in the kill. They move as a single unit. The only time it's individual is like if there's a hitman or when the mod specifies specific abilities to each scum. Which we know isn't the case here.

Zen if Orbo is dumb town tracker then why aren't you looking at others like Kary and J and admit you think I'm town because you have been flip flopping on me all game I don't understand why you say I HAVE to be scum

 

[ranmaru]

I wonder when Ran will realize no one is listening to him

Zen what was the point in you saying this?

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Deadline is the 2nd at 11:59 PM EST
With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch

2. The Paprika Killer (J)-
3. scaryLB59 -
4. Skytear (soup) -
5. Zen - Ran, Scary
7. (SE) Kary -
8. (IC) Orbo -
9. (IC) Ran -

Not voting: J, Soup, Zen, Kary, Orbo

 

[ranmaru]

I am known to do so as town.

There isn't any reason for you not to do so as scum though. Stop trying to use your town meta to save you.