Do you land PK flash usually?

[lilmister]

PK Flash is a deadly special to get hit with....but is made up for its awful speed.
Have you ever landed a few of your PK flashes? If so how do you use them in a brawl?
Me...of couse as an edgeguard, but also use it as an umbrella for opponents coming from above. I also like using it with no DI so it comes back down on me and explodes to create a sort of barrier.

 

[UberBen56]

Yeah I also use it as an edgeguard. I hit with it a moderate amount of times. I should use it as an umbrella more though.

 

[Gindler]

I honestly rarely use it. Against TLs with the annoying Dair I'll umbrella and if I break a shield they're gonna eat a fully charged one which is so satisfying. Sometimes I'll use it on people trying to eat my recovery (I'll just use PKFlash as a "surprise") Usually only if I'm at outrageously high percentages or they are.

 

[camzaman]

Yeah, I find it is very effective as a quick uncharged umbrella, or as an edge guard when they have limited dodging options.

 

[PKSkyler]

I use it to chase my opponents away,when they are coming down on me, they have to air dodge to dodge it and its really close, if the misstime the airdodgethey get hit but they also are left open to a follow up ussually. I barley use it tho.

 

[Brinzy]

Do I land it usually? Yes. I pick up on characters with powerful dairs and I read my opponent for an easy hit.

 

[Masky]

PK Flash is like a ******** version of Snake's mortar that rarely hits, but it will always force an air dodge

 

[Earthbound360]

I land it, but I love using it more as a mindgame.

 

[redgreenblue]

I usually use it like lucas' usmash. After a dthrow to uair combo I can usually land it.

 

[Uffe]

I use it on myself. If they want to get close, by all means, get *****. I also use it for edge guarding.

 

[deepseadiva]

I like how people are absolutely terrified of it. *uses it many times in FFAs*

 

[Criosphinx]

It works quite well against people who can't sweetspot ledges. Sonic, Ike (in select circumstances), Snake if I am unable to pillar spike or Dair. It also plays a decent pressure game, and is much safer than attempting to PKT2 offstage, something I unfortunately attempt more than I'd like to admit.

 

[lilmister]

Awesome! I can use some of your ideas and keep them in mind...
i also prefer Ness' bneutral as a better edgeguarder and all round attack than Lucas' bneutral because if you use a pk freeze as an edgeguard...well..your only going to help them recover since it sends the opponent up when hit

 

[Uffe]

Awesome! I can use some of your ideas and keep them in mind...
i also prefer Ness' bneutral as a better edgeguarder and all round attack than Lucas' bneutral because if you use a pk freeze as an edgeguard...well..your only going to help them recover since it sends the opponent up when hit

You're better off not using this method against other Ness and Lucas mains, though because they can just absorb it for health. PK Freeze can be absorbed, remember that. I've seen some Ness players run away or try to dodge PK Freeze. It can be used for health, though.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I land it, but I love using it more as a mindgame.

This. I like to trick my opponent into a charged yoyo, bat, or keep them in the air with PK Thunder after they airdodge. I also like to use it against other Ness's and Lucas's when they are a certain height because they will absorb it, sink down, and then screw up their timing for recovery (sometimes it's already too late) or set them up for a relatively easy edgehog.

 

[Earthbound360]

If someone can record replays of me, I can show off some epic PK Flash moments

 

[Lex Crunch]

I could really use some visuals for this, because I just cannot make anything of this. I'm on the fence with Ness, and if I don't see a good use for PK Flash, I'm just going to replace him with Wario.

 

[ChileNess]

only for mindgames as my friends use MK and sometimes DDD i cant usualy make a slow or mistake thing.

 

[Trapt497]

I like using it for an edgeguard, for general mindgames, and more. Sometimes I love u-throw > flash, though the flash can't be charged very long if you want to hit, even if the opponent has quite a bit of damage. But yeah thats pretty much it. Outside of these general situations I almost never use it.

 

[Earthbound360]

I could really use some visuals for this, because I just cannot make anything of this. I'm on the fence with Ness, and if I don't see a good use for PK Flash, I'm just going to replace him with Wario.

This is stupid stupid. Why would you give up one character just because you dont like ONE of their moves!?

 

[Gindler]

I actually killed with it today. I mean it was in teams but my teammate didn't make it happen the opponent kinda tripped on the moving platform on smashville, I thought it was funny =D

 

[Trapt497]

This is stupid stupid. Why would you give up one character just because you dont like ONE of their moves!?

And...one of his moves with the least priority...

 

[thesage]

It is fun to use in teams.

Singles not so much lol.

 

[Criosphinx]

It works wonders to counteract Dedede's recovery. If my matches tonight were any indication, and granted, I may be mistaken, during the time in which Dedede spins around before going into fallspecial with his Up-B, he can be gimped with the Flash quite easily.

 

[Trapt497]

It works wonders to counteract Dedede's recovery. If my matches tonight were any indication, and granted, I may be mistaken, during the time in which Dedede spins around before going into fallspecial with his Up-B, he can be gimped with the Flash quite easily.

Thats a good point I never thought of that. Thats probably one of the better character specific ways to use it. It goes along with edgeguarding but I like the specific situation you came up with.

I suppose it is very useful for anyone else with a very obvious or edgeguard-able up-b as well.

 

[Criosphinx]

It definitely chews up anyone who can't sweetspot recoveries. A predictable Sonic = gg.

 

[Earthbound360]

Criosphinx speaks a lot of truth
Team deathgrab until about 300% should give Ness enough time to land a full charged PK Flash for MASSIVE lolz.

 

[Graz69]

ive hit with it a couple times, i think the best time to use it is as theyre recovering.

 

[lilmister]

It's awesome using on 4 man brawls! You can see the other three brawling it out with each other while you just stand on the side and throw a charged PK Flash on them, and watch it explode in all their faces and watch them fly away into oblivion lolz...countless times

 

[kennypu]

pk flash, although great if its hit, its usually used to 'not' hit. I usually use it as a edge guard, max it out, and watch the enemy dodge it spiking them right after :]
Ken

 

[IDK]

Awesome! I can use some of your ideas and keep them in mind...
i also prefer Ness' bneutral as a better edgeguarder and all round attack than Lucas' bneutral because if you use a pk freeze as an edgeguard...well..your only going to help them recover since it sends the opponent up when hit

if you do it to someone at low percents, they only barely go up, and i've actually gotten it on heavies so that they can't get out and just fall to their dooms. it's not a problem to help them recover because they're likely to recover anyway, so if they live you are just landing the 20 percent and a follow up.

 

[goodkid]

Its good for gimping Ike's recovery & I've seen it used to kind of stage control, like on Battlefield, if the opponent is coming from offstage from the top in the air, PK-Flash which prevents them from going over you, then Bat or a follow-up.

 

[PMKNG]

mind games and against people recovering. Don't usually hit with PK flash, but a followup instead

 

[Brinzy]

Yep, I'm *pretty* sure I can hit with PK Flash usually. 100% number of hits here... no, seriously...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV5UHvCUAog

 

[Neon Ness]

The other night we were playing teams, and my teammate Lucas knocked Zelda towards Ganondorf. As soon as they were next to each other, I'd just happened to release a fully charged PK Flash. They both went sky high...

That woulda been a great replay to have. But, in general, I just use PK Flash at random times and hope for the best. I'm still learning how best to exploit it.

Edit: Successor of Raphael, I just saw that video... Reflected PK Flash finish? Aw, man. That's a rough loss, there... Regardless, your Ness is really good.

 

[Gaussis]

Lol on the video, Successor of Raphael. And it is probably ironic too how you landed it. And it was a close one too.

 

[panique365]

Super rarely, I love when it hits though. The easiest time to do it is when someone breaks their shield, as a punishment

 

[arwnightmare]

I use PK flash when they are far..but i send the PK flash out a lil and then pull it back in fully..some ppl think they can reach up to me fast enough to hit me..but bcause i pull it back i put it to explode on myself..and somtimes it works...i caught sonic with it a time when he tried to D-B to reach me fast and he got caught right before he reached me...lol

 

[Fredcrownwel]

I can hit it ocasionally only against people with a REALLY predictible recovery or if they are just ********.

 

[iEatPikmin]

I use it on my cousin (he mains Ike) when Ike is falling down after Aether. I can usually land 3-4 PK Flashes per match if he/me gets spammy with Aether/PK Flash. xD