Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Speed Weed]

All you dusty ****** are sleeping on Plok.

Joking aside. Lara Croft and Bill Rizer are starting to get talked about lately. For a while they weren't taken too seriously, or at least notably less so than Hayabusa and Crash.

I guess the Double Dragon brothers, Bimmy and Jimmy Lee. Though to be honest, if we got a Beat 'Em Up character, my first pick is someone from Streets of Rage or Final Fight.

I like how paradoxical Plok's existence is because he's pretty much used as like the quintessential example of weird-ass obscure mascots from the 16-bit era.....so, like

In a way, he's famous for being a "literal who". He's well known for being unknown.

Plok is an enigma that will forever keep me up at night

 

[DevaAshera]

Too many to list all of them but recently I've been checking out the Tales Of series after hearing so much praise for it here. I've been really enjoying my time with Vesperia so far and I bought both Berseria and Symphonia Chronicles since they were fairly cheap.

I hope you enjoy Berseria as much as I do..its definitely one of my all-time favorite games and is quite different from other Tales games in a few ways (though particularly in how its story plays out).

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

I think I'm more and more inclined to think that the most surprising thing about the last two characters would be one/s coming from a new company. Given that the last Smash character to appear from a new company was Terry almost a year and a half go and the pattern for the second pass has been cleaning up loose ends to some degree, it would be quite a change if that's the time we get the major Koei Tecmo or Activision character.

Not to say that it can't happen, but it almost feels like they would have to be quasi-bonus fighters, ones that Nintendo simply had the time and opportunity to utilize in finishing off the second pass.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

One of eight members expected to leave the company after its annual meeting in June.

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[TCT~Phantom]

One of eight members expected to leave the company after its annual meeting in June.

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Guess Reggie saw the writing on the wall and chose to leave before Gamestop sinks for good.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Guess Reggie saw the writing on the wall and chose to leave before Gamestop sinks for good.

I mean this was the same corporation that a year ago wanted employees to work during the beginning of a pandemic.

Meaning that ironically enough for a company that hired Reggie Fils-Aime, they really don't care if your body is ready.

 

[CannonStreak]

Guess Reggie saw the writing on the wall and chose to leave before Gamestop sinks for good.

So, what is going on with Gamestop again?

 

[Lamperouge]

I hope you enjoy Berseria as much as I do..its definitely one of my all-time favorite games and is quite different from other Tales games in a few ways (though particularly in how its story plays out).

It'll probably be a while before I can get around to playing it but I'm definitely very excited for it!

 

[toonito]

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Mega Man 7 turns 26 today

X for Smash plz

 

[3BitSaurus]

Slightly random topic incoming: what stages would you expect to see for your MWs?

I was listening to some Klonoa remixes and... kinda realized choosing a single location to represent that series isn't easy. I've experienced similar doubts about other franchises in the past, like KH, for instance.

 

[chocolatejr9]

So, what is going on with Gamestop again?

Everything and nothing. It's weird...

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Slightly random topic incoming: what stages would you expect to see for your MWs?

I was listening to some Klonoa remixes and... kimda realized choosing a single location to represent that series isn't easy. I've experienced similar doubts about other franchises in the past, like KH, for instance.

MC. Princess Diaries for Octoling. It’s the Final Fest stage and has an Octo Expansion reference in the background

 

[CannonStreak]

Everything and nothing. It's weird...

I see.

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Gamestop does close down, but who could replace it? I mean, stores that sell one kind of thing, from what I have been told, are no longer a thing nowadays. That is why stores like Toys 'R Us closed down. I mean, with that, will there even be any store that replaces Gamestop at all?

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Slightly random topic incoming: what stages would you expect to see for your MWs?

I was listening to some Klonoa remixes and... kinda realized choosing a single location to represent that series isn't easy. I've experienced similar doubts about other franchises in the past, like KH, for instance.

For Dixie, I think a choice of 4 iconic DKC2 stages cycled through ala Garreg Mach Monastery could work

Bramble Blast - Basic layout with wooden platforms over brambles; occasional Flitters in the air & Click-Clacks which can be used a throwable weapons
Kannon's Klaim - Vertically oriented stage with cannon balls often being shot and floating arrow barrels appearing
Ghostly Grove - Horizontal focused stage with various platforms reachable via brief Ghost Ropes & Kloaks throwing both hazards & occasional items
Hornet Hole - A more enclosed space with honey sections fighters can stick to on the ground or walls while Zingers as a recurring hazard

 

[2006ToyotaTacoma]

Slightly random topic incoming: what stages would you expect to see for your MWs?

I was listening to some Klonoa remixes and... kinda realized choosing a single location to represent that series isn't easy. I've experienced similar doubts about other franchises in the past, like KH, for instance.

Amaterasu - Ark of Yamato
Kiryu - Kamurocho or the Millenium Tower
Master Chief - Blood Gulch

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I see.

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Gamestop does close down, but who could replace it? I mean, stores that sell one kind of thing, from what I have been told, are no longer a thing nowadays. That is why stores like Toys 'R Us closed down. I mean, with that, will there even be any store that replaces Gamestop at all?

Yeah uhhhh I do not want to sell my old consoles on eBay with their new policy...

 

[CannonStreak]

Yeah uhhhh I do not want to sell my old consoles on eBay with their new policy...

I know how that feels. Not keen on selling my stuff online, overall.

 

[3BitSaurus]

MC. Princess Diaries for Octoling. It’s the Final Fest stage and has an Octo Expansion reference in the background

Huh, I was sure you'd suggest the Metro itself.

Ah, I forgot to tag SharkLord for that thing about a Klonoa stage in the other post.

 

[7NATOR]

Yeah uhhhh I do not want to sell my old consoles on eBay with their new policy...

What's their new policy?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

What's their new policy?

I gotta link my bank account to sell crap now... before I just set up my PayPal and be done with it

 

[chocolatejr9]

I see.

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Gamestop does close down, but who could replace it? I mean, stores that sell one kind of thing, from what I have been told, are no longer a thing nowadays. That is why stores like Toys 'R Us closed down. I mean, with that, will there even be any store that replaces Gamestop at all?

We won't know until we get to that point, I'm afraid...

 

[CannonStreak]

We won't know until we get to that point, I'm afraid...

That alone, is very scary, if you ask me.

 

[7NATOR]

I gotta link my bank account to sell crap now... before I just set up my PayPal and be done with it

wow that sucks. Maybe there were people Abusing the Paypal or something like that, but that definitely is more restrictive and not as freefrom to sell, plus wouldn't it be easier to do hacking of people's Bank accounts since you have to put it into your account?

 

[SKX31]

Slightly random topic incoming: what stages would you expect to see for your MWs?

I was listening to some Klonoa remixes and... kinda realized choosing a single location to represent that series isn't easy. I've experienced similar doubts about other franchises in the past, like KH, for instance.

Dota 2 would probably get Roshan's Pit. After all, LoL's Baron Nashor takes some direct inspiration from Roshan and both super-bosses are very important (technically optional, but you know you want the rewards) to the flow of a match. Besides, both areas are some of the most frequently contested. As such, I'd favor Nashor's nesting grounds for LoL as well.

While super-bosses have been really wonkily implemented in Smash, it's not a horrendous idea in concept. I just believe it needs tweaks in order to have the Super-boss not be incredibly disruptive to the fight (such as it being affected by the Hazards on / off toggle). Both Roshan and Nashor can work since neither are super-disruptive in their respective games (with some caveats of course: I'm not 100 % sure on Nashor, but Roshan ****s people up occassionally if his swipe manages to RNG-stun and occassionally the slam which has a AoE slow).

As for the rewards when each super boss is slain, well, Roshan gives out the Aegis of the Immortal, a one-use item that offers free reincarnation and Full Restore, which is kinda broken in the context of Smash and might be an issue, but hey (+ additional items for subsuquent takedowns). Nashor offers a very powerful buff in its stead.

KH might be best served by Dive to the Heart. Reappears often in KH proper, is very important to the main characters, and one can do a lot with the stage. Simple "Final Destination with a Kalos coat of paint"? Check. Wanna have Heartless in the fray with Hazards On? That's possible. More janky platforms for casual fun - again in Hazards On? That works too.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

wow that sucks. Maybe there were people Abusing the Paypal or something like that, but that definitely is more restrictive and not as freefrom to sell, plus wouldn't it be easier to do hacking of people's Bank accounts since you have to put it into your account?

EXACTLY.

Maybe it’s also something related to the pandemic, but until this is fixed I refuse to sell anything there again

if they ever do

anyway, I am curious about the GameStop situation as well

 

[Peripuff]

Actually, now that I think about it, I was wondering why they picked Guile as an assist trophy instead of Chun-Li. Do any SF fans have insight on why that might be? From an outsider's perspective, I'd expect Chun-Li to be the one they would pick for that tbh.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Actually, now that I think about it, I was wondering why they picked Guile as an assist trophy instead of Chun-Li. Do any SF fans have insight on why that might be? From an outsider's perspective, I'd expect Chun-Li to be the one they would pick for that tbh.

It was easy to replicate Guile's campy playstyle with the limited moves and behavior of ATs.

 

[Gengar84]

Slightly random topic incoming: what stages would you expect to see for your MWs?

I was listening to some Klonoa remixes and... kinda realized choosing a single location to represent that series isn't easy. I've experienced similar doubts about other franchises in the past, like KH, for instance.

Magus - The final battle with Lavos where it shifts between different time periods and stage layouts including prehistoric, Magus’ castle, and the future.

Battletoads - Khaos Mountains from Battletoads in Battlemaniacs. The ground would shift periodically and the stage layout would change. Occasionally fireballs could rain down from the sky.

 

[7NATOR]

Actually, now that I think about it, I was wondering why they picked Guile as an assist trophy instead of Chun-Li. Do any SF fans have insight on why that might be? From an outsider's perspective, I'd expect Chun-Li to be the one they would pick for that tbh.

Guile fits better as an Assist since he's known for Turtling, in terms of how alot of Guile player play him

This is why he just Sits and Waits while crouching (to do Flash kick if you get close), and He'll throw a Sonic boom if you far away

Guile also is a legendary character anyway, with a Legendary Music Track. No he's not as Important to the Series as Chun, but he's still Legendary anyway. Plus he only as 2 Moves, Sonic boom and Flash Kick. Easier to translate and develop into Assist than Chun

 

[Peripuff]

It was easy to replicate Guile's campy playstyle with the limited moves and behavior of ATs.

Guile fits better as an Assist since he's known for Turtling, in terms of how alot of Guile player play him

This is why he just Sits and Waits while crouching (to do Flash kick if you get close), and He'll throw a Sonic boom if you far away

Guile also is a legendary character anyway, with a Legendary Music Track. No he's not as Important to the Series as Chun, but he's still Legendary anyway. Plus he only as 2 Moves, Sonic boom and Flash Kick. Easier to translate and develop into Assist than Chun

I see, that makes sense. Thank you for your responses.

 

[Idon]

Slightly random topic incoming: what stages would you expect to see for your MWs?

I was listening to some Klonoa remixes and... kinda realized choosing a single location to represent that series isn't easy. I've experienced similar doubts about other franchises in the past, like KH, for instance.

Probably any variant of a post-apocalyptic Tokyo.

 

[7NATOR]

So credit to Wonkykong on Gamefaqs

Nate (leaker) says Crash probably not happening, Master Chief more likely. - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (gamespot.com)

So at 1:16:39, There's a question Asked about Smash, and whether Crash and Master Chief are likely to Join

Nate says that he THINKS that Master Chief has a better chance than Crash, but has a gut feeling neither are in the Pass

This is just Speculation it seems from the wording. I know there's the whole thing about people that tend to have Inside info, having more knoweldgeable guesses, but with that being said it's just his Speculation

Nate is the 2nd guy that answers the question. Nate has been a credible insider from Resetera, and runs this youtube account, Nate the Hate

 

[3BitSaurus]

Dota 2 would probably get Roshan's Pit. After all, LoL's Baron Nashor takes some direct inspiration from Roshan and both super-bosses are very important (technically optional, but you know you want the rewards) to the flow of a match. Besides, both areas are some of the most frequently contested. As such, I'd favor Nashor's nesting grounds for LoL as well.

While super-bosses have been really wonkily implemented in Smash, it's not a horrendous idea in concept. I just believe it needs tweaks in order to have the Super-boss not be incredibly disruptive to the fight (such as it being affected by the Hazards on / off toggle). Both Roshan and Nashor can work since neither are super-disruptive in their respective games (with some caveats of course: I'm not 100 % sure on Nashor, but Roshan ****s people up occassionally if his swipe manages to RNG-stun and occassionally the slam which has a AoE slow).

As for the rewards when each super boss is slain, well, Roshan gives out the Aegis of the Immortal, a one-use item that offers free reincarnation and Full Restore, which is kinda broken and might be an issue, but hey (+ additional items for subsuquent takedowns). Nashor offers a very powerful buff in its stead.

KH might be best served by Dive to the Heart. Reappears often in KH proper, is very important to the main characters, and one can do a lot with the stage. Simple "Final Destination with a Kalos coat of paint"? Check. Wanna have Heartless in the fray with Hazards On? That's possible. More janky platforms for casual fun - again in Hazards On? That works too.

I wonder if it would be best to have a stage spanning the whole Summoner's Rift and travel between lanes. Dunno how Dota's works, but aren't there other kinds of camps in the jungle compared to LoL? Maybe that could be an interesting hazard. That or the donkeys (or whatever you call them) bringing items to the field.

And wasn't there a mob that dropped an item called Cheese? Maybe I'm completely misremembering, but I have vague memories of hearing that from a friend.

About Nashor, yeah, the inspiration is so blatant that Nashor's name is literally an anagram of Roshan's. Seriously, how did they get away with that?

...Wait, names being anagrams of counterparts... ** , ARE WE BACK TO ***** KH LORE!?

Speaking of, I also tend to consider Twilight Town. It appears in most games (except KH, BBS and DDD, if I remember correctly) and arguably works better for cameos than Dive.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Slightly random topic incoming: what stages would you expect to see for your MWs?

I was listening to some Klonoa remixes and... kinda realized choosing a single location to represent that series isn't easy. I've experienced similar doubts about other franchises in the past, like KH, for instance.

Yeah, I have that difficulty with Sora. Twilight Town? Traverse Town? Destiny Islands? The World That Never Was? There's a few more options but if you put a gun to my head and made me choose I'd go with Twilight Town. Has a good amount of appearances, is significant to Chain of Memories and Days, two of the KH games released on Nintendo consoles and you could have a nice aesthetic with the clock tower looking over the town and extending forest.

At the opposite end, Crash I would expect to see come with N. Sanity Beach. There are other options that can work but I wouldn't really expect them.

 

[CannonStreak]

If Crash isn't in, I just hope the last two characters, or at least one of them, is not some kind of human or humanoid character like most DLC characters we have been getting.

 

[chocolatejr9]

If Crash isn't in, I just hope the last two characters, or at least one of them, is not some kind of human or humanoid character like most DLC characters we have been getting.

Eh... I wouldn't get my hopes up too high...

If it makes you feel better, Euden could possibly turn into a Dragon.

 

[CannonStreak]

Eh... I wouldn't get my hopes up too high...

If it makes you feel better, Euden could possibly turn into a Dragon.

Oh believe me, my hopes AREN'T that high. I do believe we will get humanoid characters regardless one way or the other.

 

[Perkilator]

If Crash isn't in, I just hope the last two characters, or at least one of them, is not some kind of human or humanoid character like most DLC characters we have been getting.

So I'm really the only one who doesn't care if DLC characters are humans?

 

[CannonStreak]

So I'm really the only one who doesn't care if DLC characters are humans?

Sorry if I made you feel bad.

 

[Technomage]

Slightly random topic incoming: what stages would you expect to see for your MWs?

I was listening to some Klonoa remixes and... kinda realized choosing a single location to represent that series isn't easy. I've experienced similar doubts about other franchises in the past, like KH, for instance.

I've stated this before for Crash, but if he were to get in, then I'd think it'd be cool if his home stage were to be the Rift Generator from Crash 4, complete with N. Tropy (both male and female counterparts) as a stage boss.

Edit: Oh wait, you said "expect"! My mistake. In that case, I'd say N. Sanity Beach.