Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Shroob]

I might take more fighters until 2023 IF it isn’t just 5-6 fighters. Like if it’s 8+ then I’ll accept that long of a wait

....? It's not until, it's "Til"

It's saying "The dlc won't end until 2023 happens."

 

[GoodGrief741]

I can't choose....

You only get choose ONE of these Nintendo Direct reveals for tomorrow

Which one would you want the most? pic.twitter.com/BuA3OgAUNP

— Aero (@ActualAero) February 16, 2021

Obviously Odyssey 2. Mario Kart 9 will happen, BotW 2 is confirmed, more DLC doesn't even compare to a new game. Unfortunately we probably won't get a straight sequel to Odyssey because Nintendo's gonna Nintendo.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

I love Arlo's content but he is very bad at predicting lol
Like his smash ultimate predictions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2BvemACxcA&

None of the characters he predicted got in and not only that, he said Ryu and Cloud weren't returning lol.

Think of it like hes on opposite day. If he calls someone you can assume they aren’t coming.

 

[Iko MattOrr]

My DREAM announcement for something SMALLER (as in not some huge big new game) would be an Advance Collection, just the GBA games sans Sonic Genesis all in one bunch

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I would buy it day one, I loved the Advance games.

My dream announcement would be a new game that's a revival of the Sonic Advance series style in a similar way as Sonic Mania did for the classics. But I would prefer if it's not pixel art but animated hand drawn sprites instead, similar to Cuphead and Warioland Shake It. The original games went for some anime-like visuals, I'd like those visuals to be recreated with modern graphics instead of trying to make it look EXACTLY like the old games, pixels and all.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

arlo is in shambles

pic.twitter.com/z7ej7Ppz0m

— Poorly Aged Things (@PoorlyAgedStuff) February 16, 2021

Funnily enough he did respond though.

By publicly predicting that we wouldn't get any Directs this year I have caused one to materialize. YOU'RE WELCOME. https://t.co/I0OtB1A3bh

— Arlo (@ArloStuff) February 16, 2021

 

[Otoad64]

GUYS GUYS my aunt works at sega and when i asked her who the next fighters are she sent me these images

what does it mean?

 

[Polan]

Think of it like hes on opposite day. If he calls someone you can assume they aren’t coming.

**** i think he predicted monster hunter **** ****

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I love Arlo's content but he is very bad at predicting lol
Like his smash ultimate predictions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2BvemACxcA&

None of the characters he predicted got in (except Daisy and an ARMS rep) and not only that, he said Ryu and Cloud weren't returning lol.

"I think they'll scale back their Fire Emblem roster".

 

[SharkLord]

GUYS GUYS my aunt works at sega and when i asked her who the next fighters are she sent me these images
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what does it mean?

Next fighters are Rodan (AKA Red Bird Forma Final), Shrek, and Melee Fox

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I have a feeling Pokemon will get its own direct next week. They probably have their own laundry list of announcements to make.

Didn't they say they'd have one this week?

 

[Otoad64]

I love Arlo's content but he is very bad at predicting lol
Like his smash ultimate predictions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2BvemACxcA&

None of the characters he predicted got in (except Daisy and an ARMS rep) and not only that, he said Ryu and Cloud weren't returning lol.

yeah but he predicted New Horizons

Next fighters are Rodan (AKA Red Bird Forma Final), Shrek, and Melee Fox

Melee was supposed to mean Sandbag but Fox works too

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

GUYS GUYS my aunt works at sega and when i asked her who the next fighters are she sent me these images

what does it mean?

Shrek has wavedashing and the competitive players will all be mad. Melee gets a new release with Ultimate's newcomers (but nobody added in Brawl or Smash 4) because all the new players want to have that sweet movement on their own characters. The online is still bad.

 

[Iko MattOrr]

GUYS GUYS my aunt works at sega and when i asked her who the next fighters are she sent me these images
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what does it mean?

Can't believe that the Fighting Wire Frame is joining the roster.

 

[MisterMike]

Well ****, look like it's finally happening. A Nintendo Direct after so goddamn long. The last time we got a full-on non-mini Nintendo Direct was September 4th 2019, when Banjo was released. That's insane. But enough about that, we're here to talk Smash.

I think Rex is probably coming tomorrow, and here's why:

Spoiler: -= 1 - A Convenient Pattern =-

I've noticed regarding Vol. 2's selection thus far. While I'm fully well aware patterns don't always mean anything for who's coming next, this one seems a little too suspicious to ignore completely. One curious thing about Vol. 2 I've noticed is that every character thus far has been in serious consideration for Ultimate for some time:

• Min Min, or rather an ARMS character in general, was intended to join Smash at base, however their game came out too late for them to be added to the project plan, so they were excluded.
• Sephiroth's name has been floating around since before Ultimate's release, being on the 7 Squares List that also included Erdrick and The Luminary, who got in under the name Hero.
• Steve was outright confirmed to have been in negotiations since 5 YEARS AGO.

Much like ARMS for Min Min, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was in development during the roster selection time, and was on Sakurai's radar for potential newcomers, however development wasn't far enough along for him to get a good idea of how Rex would play, so he couldn't include him. Had this not have happened, Rex would've been in the base game guaranteed. This this theory holds up, then I believe Rex will be coming to Smash by the end of this Fighters Pass, if not tomorrow.

Spoiler: -= 2 - The Other Shoe =-

If Sephiroth's reveal tells us anything, it's that the Smash community has historically been absolutely **** at predicting who's coming next. Back in December when The Last of Us: Part II Awards the Video Game Awards were coming up and Smash was likely to be shown there, everyone believed that the next fighter had to be Crash Bandicoot, they had to be Master Chief, they had to be Doomguy, they had to be Jonesy from Fortnite, because to them, those were the only names that sounded right. "It's a big western event, so clearly the next fighter would have to be a big western character! It all fits!"

Conversely, Sephiroth was a name that everyone had already crossed off their lists for a variety of reasons. Maybe they didn't think his sword would work in Smash on account of being Ridley in size. Maybe they thought someone like Geno or Sora would be the next SquareEnix characters and that it was redundant for there to be two characters from Final Fantasy VII. Maybe they were still mad about what he did to Aerith. Either way, despite making a lot of sense in retrospect, Sephiroth wasn't considered a contender at that time by anyone. At least until Galeem got sliced in half and One-Winged Angel started playing.

And as we approach this next fighter reveal, I've been seeing the same thing happen all over again, albeit with a bit more variation given that we've had little to nothing in terms of rumors or leaks. After two absolutely HUGE third party inclusions, everyone's expectations are still geared towards big popular third-party names like Crash Bandicoot, Dante, Ryu Hayabusa and Monster Hunter.

As such, I can't help but think that the next character won't be as big or as groundbreaking as Steve or Sephiroth, or as bad as a Gen VIII Pokemon for that matter. I think the next character is going to be a less frequently discussed character who isn't anyone's first pick for Smash, but one whom nobody will really be all to upset over or surprised to see get in, and Rex fits that bill to a T.

I can't choose....

You only get choose ONE of these Nintendo Direct reveals for tomorrow

Which one would you want the most? pic.twitter.com/BuA3OgAUNP

— Aero (@ActualAero) February 16, 2021

Neither. Mother 3 port/remake coming stateside, a new Golden Sun game/remake or a new F-Zero.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

** i think he predicted monster hunter ** ****

For Smash specifically though, hes cursed. The anti Prophet.

Didn't they say they'd have one this week?

If there is an announcement I’m not aware of it.

 

[BlondeLombax]

All this talk about the next fighter being someone hardly anybody has brought up before is driving me nuts. I’m not even gonna day why, I’ve beaten y’all over the head with it enough, I’m sorry.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Well ****, look like it's finally happening. A Nintendo Direct after so goddamn long. The last time we got a full-on non-mini Nintendo Direct was September 4th 2019, when Banjo was released. That's insane. But enough about that, we're here to talk Smash.

I think Rex is probably coming tomorrow, and here's why:

Spoiler: -= 1 - A Convenient Pattern =-

I've noticed regarding Vol. 2's selection thus far. While I'm fully well aware patterns don't always mean anything for who's coming next, this one seems a little too suspicious to ignore completely. One curious thing about Vol. 2 I've noticed is that every character thus far has been in serious consideration for Ultimate for some time:

• Min Min, or rather an ARMS character in general, was intended to join Smash at base, however their game came out too late for them to be added to the project plan, so they were excluded.
• Sephiroth's name has been floating around since before Ultimate's release, being on the 7 Squares List that also included Erdrick and The Luminary, who got in under the name Hero.
• Steve was outright confirmed to have been in negotiations since 5 YEARS AGO.

Much like ARMS for Min Min, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was in development during the roster selection time, and was on Sakurai's radar for potential newcomers, however development wasn't far enough along for him to get a good idea of how Rex would play, so he couldn't include him. Had this not have happened, Rex would've been in the base game guaranteed. This this theory holds up, then I believe Rex will be coming to Smash by the end of this Fighters Pass, if not tomorrow.

Spoiler: -= 2 - The Other Shoe =-

If Sephiroth's reveal tells us anything, it's that the Smash community has historically been absolutely **** at predicting who's coming next. Back in December when The Last of Us: Part II Awards the Video Game Awards were coming up and Smash was likely to be shown there, everyone believed that the next fighter had to be Crash Bandicoot, they had to be Master Chief, they had to be Doomguy, they had to be Jonesy from Fortnite, because to them, those were the only names that sounded right. "It's a big western event, so clearly the next fighter would have to be a big western character! It all fits!"

Conversely, Sephiroth was a name that everyone had already crossed off their lists for a variety of reasons. Maybe they didn't think his sword would work in Smash on account of being Ridley in size. Maybe they thought someone like Geno or Sora would be the next SquareEnix characters and that it was redundant for there to be two characters from Final Fantasy VII. Maybe they were still mad about what he did to Aerith. Either way, despite making a lot of sense in retrospect, Sephiroth wasn't considered a contender at that time by anyone. At least until Galeem got sliced in half and One-Winged Angel started playing.

And as we approach this next fighter reveal, I've been seeing the same thing happen all over again, albeit with a bit more variation given that we've had little to nothing in terms of rumors or leaks. After two absolutely HUGE third party inclusions, everyone's expectations are still geared towards big popular third-party names like Crash Bandicoot, Dante, Ryu Hayabusa and Monster Hunter.

As such, I can't help but think that the next character won't be as big or as groundbreaking as Steve or Sephiroth, or as bad as a Gen VIII Pokemon for that matter. I think the next character is going to be a less frequently discussed character who isn't anyone's first pick for Smash, but one whom nobody will really be all to upset over or surprised to see get in, and Rex fits that bill to a T.

Neither. Mother 3 port/remake coming stateside, a new Golden Sun game/remake or a new F-Zero.

Seems reasonable honestly.

 

[3BitSaurus]

for a second i read this as "more amingos" i have ruined myself

CP12: Amingo
CP13: Amingo
CP14: Amingo
CP15: Amingo
CP16: Amingo
CP17: Amingo

Like, they're all Amingo, but each with a different stage from MvC and a different set of alt colors.

 

[CannonStreak]

pic.twitter.com/z7ej7Ppz0m

— Poorly Aged Things (@PoorlyAgedStuff) February 16, 2021

Funnily enough he did respond though.

By publicly predicting that we wouldn't get any Directs this year I have caused one to materialize. YOU'RE WELCOME. https://t.co/I0OtB1A3bh

— Arlo (@ArloStuff) February 16, 2021

Oh brother, like he was the cause of this Direct happening!

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

I can't choose....

You only get choose ONE of these Nintendo Direct reveals for tomorrow

Which one would you want the most? pic.twitter.com/BuA3OgAUNP

— Aero (@ActualAero) February 16, 2021

All the other ones will happen eventually, I even believe that about Odyssey 2, but there’s no sure confirmation of a Fighter’s Pass 3 so you know what? Yeah, Fighter’s Pass 3.

 

[BlondeLombax]

If Rex does get announced at some point, I foresee the Geno base lighting up like a supernova because of the DLC Mii rule being killed. Others apply, too, but this especially applies to the Geno base.

 

[Diddy Kong]

23 hours and 50 minutes now. And this thread is already the most crowded it's been in months.

I honestly didn't expect a new character so soon either. Felt like last week Sephiroth was released.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Oh brother, like he was the cause of this Direct happening!

He is. My dead Great Grandfather rose from his grave and told me Arlo is the only reason Nintendo is making this direct.

 

[Deleted member]

Next fighters are Rodan (AKA Red Bird Forma Final), Shrek, and Melee Fox

I thought you said Red Robin and I was super confused

 

[SKX31]

Let's go Sora!

As a proud member of the Wahoominati ( ), I'd accept that scenario.

GUYS GUYS my aunt works at sega and when i asked her who the next fighters are she sent me these images
View attachment 303432
what does it mean?

Leffen and mang0 will like this post only if the Melee rep plays exactly like Melee.

for a second i read this as "more amingos" i have ruined myself

CP12: Amingo
CP13: Amingo
CP14: Amingo
CP15: Amingo
CP16: Amingo
CP17: Amingo

Like, they're all Amingo, but each with a different stage from MvC and a different set of alt colors.

Umm... **** Mexico's not yet playable in Civilization, so I can't pull Mexican music from that game to rep Amingo.

Would Aztec music suit Amingo?

Edit: And Arlo posts:

 

[CannonStreak]

He is. My dead Great Grandfather rose from his grave and told me Arlo is the only reason Nintendo is making this direct.

Very funny, wise guy! LOL

 

[BlondeLombax]

23 hours and 50 minutes now. And this thread is already the most crowded it's been in months.

I honestly didn't expect a new character so soon either. Felt like last week Sephiroth was released.

For me it feels like Steve was released last week. That’s how unreal this game has become, and I am absolutely all for it.

 

[The Rhythm Theif]

The Zero (MMZ) for Smash community has achieved a glorious day in history.

We made it onto the popular picks list.

 

[Guynamednelson]

If Rex does get announced at some point, I foresee the Geno base lighting up like a supernova because of the DLC Mii rule being killed. Others apply, too, but this especially applies to the Geno base.

People will debate if Rex is an exception because of when his costume was made/released.

 

[Powerman293]

I feel like a retro character would be a good out of left field no one is expecting. And I don't mean retro like Hayabusa, where he's just been around for a long time and remained relevent. I mean a character that has been only super relevent in retro gaming.

 

[Diddy Kong]

For me it feels like Steve was released last week. That’s how unreal this game has become, and I am absolutely all for it.

Might as well release new DLC characters every week then.

Seems like a plan.

 

[BlondeLombax]

People will debate if Rex is an exception because of when his costume was made/released.

Yepper-deppers. I know that. It’s just gonna incite an even bigger war in the fandom.

Might as well release new DLC characters every week then.

Seems like a plan.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

I feel like a retro character would be a good out of left field no one is expecting. And I don't mean retro like Hayabusa, where he's just been around for a long time and remained relevent. I mean a character that has been only super relevent in retro gaming.

This is how Segata Sanshiro can still win.

 

[ZelDan]

Even if Rex were to make it in, it wouldn't really help Geno's chances that much, considering the issue with Geno's Mii costume was that it was released midway through FP2, whereas Rex had his announced just as we learned about FP1.

 

[The Rhythm Theif]

Even if Rex were to make it in, it wouldn't really help Geno's chances that much, considering the issue with Geno's Mii costume was that it was released midway through FP2, whereas Rex had his announced just as we learned about FP1.

That's a good point.

But nevertheless, we'll just have to wait until the direct tomorrow, which [PLOT TWIST!] is on my birthday!

 

[LAA9000]

Shrek has wavedashing and the competitive players will all be mad.

You're saying Shrek won't have crumpet dashing?

 

[Mushroomguy12]

GUYS GUYS my aunt works at sega and when i asked her who the next fighters are she sent me these images

what does it mean?

I never thought this would come true....

'Guy Who Only Wants to Play Melee' Heavily Rumored to Be Smash Bros DLC Fighter 5 https://t.co/bJlEOo8NjW

— Hard Drive (@HardDriveMag) January 14, 2020

 

[CannonStreak]

I never thought this would come true....

'Guy Who Only Wants to Play Melee' Heavily Rumored to Be Smash Bros DLC Fighter 5 https://t.co/bJlEOo8NjW

— Hard Drive (@HardDriveMag) January 14, 2020

Finally, I get to beat up a whiner.

 

[Wunderwaft]

Imagine if Nintendo saw the Sans mii costume do so well with sales that they decided to promote it to a playable fighter in Pass 2.

 

[RileyXY1]

I feel like a retro character would be a good out of left field no one is expecting. And I don't mean retro like Hayabusa, where he's just been around for a long time and remained relevent. I mean a character that has been only super relevent in retro gaming.

That would be so up my alley, considering that I like the Backyard Sports games.