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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

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DarthEnderX

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[citation needed]
I have none, but there's no citations that anything else was the case either.

It just makes sense that, since Nintendo already went back to every company involved in Smash 4 to renegotiate for their characters, stages, and music, for Ultimate, that they would do the Mii costumes at the same time. There's absolutely no logical reason they would make deals for everything ELSE and exclude ONLY the Mii costumes in those deals.

The idea that Nintendo went "Okay Square, we want to bring back Cloud, his Stage and his two songs from Smash 4...but we don't want those two Mii costumes yet. We'll come back for them later if we get another character from you." is kinda ridiculous.
 

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I have none, but there's no citations that anything else was the case either.

It just makes sense that, since Nintendo already went back to every company involved in Smash 4 to renegotiate for their characters, stages, and music, for Ultimate, that they would do the Mii costumes at the same time. There's absolutely no logical reason they would make deals for everything ELSE and exclude ONLY the Mii costumes in those deals.

The idea that Nintendo went "Okay Square, we want to bring back Cloud, his Stage and his two songs from Smash 4...but we don't want those two Mii costumes yet. We'll come back for them later if we get another character from you." is kinda ridiculous.
Maybe to you. To me it's more ridiculous to pay for Geno's Mii Costume in 2015 and sit on it for 5 years. Especially given that we know Mii Costumes are licensed shortly before their additions.
 

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Realistically it seems that every 3rd party DLC Mii costume from SSB4 was negotiated for reappearance with the caveat that they would be DLC again instead of part of the base game. They then distributed said costumes more or less evenly across the entire timeframe of Ultimate's DLC, mixing them in 1 or 2 at a time among new content. (The Dragon Quest patch had no returning ones but every other patch had at least one.) There's only 3 costumes left to bring back and 3 character patches left to line them up with. It seems pretty apparent how they're handling it to me.
 

DarthEnderX

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Maybe to you. To me it's more ridiculous to pay for Geno's Mii Costume in 2015 and sit on it for 5 years.
But...again, they did that with EVERY returning Smash 4 costume. Why would Geno's be different?

Tails, Knuckles, X, Protoman, Zero, Heihachi, Akira, Jacky, Geno, Chocobo, Gil. All came back. All spread out around different packs. That was CLEARLY intentional so that each pack would be the same general size with a mix of old and new costumes.

They put the goddamn Mega Man costumes in DIFFERENT packs! Are you trying to tell me they negotiated for those costumes at different times?

It seems to me like it's far simpler that Nintendo started renegotiating for the costumes once they started planning for FP1.
Yeah, I agree. The difference is, you seem to think they started planning FP1 later than they started planning the base roster. I don't, because that's not how game development works(early DLC is pretty much always planned at the same time as the core game, if they've announce the DLC before the game even launched, they decided on it the same time they were making the main roster).
 
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Hey guys found another "leak" to laugh at
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Fake as heck but points for originality
Remastering Unleashed despite basically no one asking for it might be the most Sega move I’ve ever seen. Wish it was real though, Colors was a big part of my childhood.
Edit: Considering the literal first post below this one is someone wanting an Unleashed Remaster, perhaps the game has more of a fanbase than I thought lmao.
 
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Idk why but I have a distinct feeling the next character will be female


I haven't shilled Estelle in almost 3 days!

Hey guys found another "leak" to laugh at
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Fake as heck but points for originality
-Sakura Wars MINI is a bad name for anything (at least use one of the leaked trademarks)
-God I wish Unleased remastered would be a thing
-Everything else is comically dull
- I give this leak a bad/10
 
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Hey guys found another "leak" to laugh at
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Fake as heck but points for originality
you know I wish instead of calling a leak hey just say "hey this is my idea for a nintendo direct" or better yet just make a mockup video and just say it's a mockup video

Remastering Unleashed despite basically no one asking for it might be the most Sega move I’ve ever seen. Wish it was real though, Colors was a big part of my childhood.
actually many people are asking for an unleashed remaster... on PC
 

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I was watching an Atelier Ryza 2 stream recently because yes. I wasn't particularly interested in the game, but while I was watching the stream I heard the battle theme... and oh my god, such a banger. I really love the feeling of adventure and good vibes the song has.

I'm gonna share it here because I think some people around here are fans of the series. But I must say, after hearing this track now I'm curious and might try the new game lmao

 
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I was watching an Atelier Ryza 2 stream recently. Not really interested in the game, but while I was watching the stream I heard the battle theme... and oh my god, such a banger. I really love the feeling of adventure and good vibes the song has.

I'm gonna share it here because I think some people around here are fans of the series. But I must say, after hearing this track now I'm curious and might try the new game lmao

Atelier games are... not your average JRPG fare to say the least? Less SAVE THE WORLD FROM IMPENDING DOOM, more slice of life with alchemy, character and relationship development, and cute character designs? And also more exploring the lore of their own world. nice change of pace from the average JRPG
 

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To be precise, what actually Sakurai said was "adding one Smash character means adding one Weltanschauung to the game". But the subtext on the video in Japanese said "expanding the game's world." Doesn't make that much difference tho just being trivial.
Huh, I don't recall Sakurai using German words at all.

Waaait... XCX uses German phrases for its some of its songs (such as "Wir Fliegen") , Elma confirmed. :4pacman:

"My stage, the Eggman Amusement Park, will not be liable to any damage caused to it during a Smash Bros. match. In fact, anyone who damages the park will be prosecuted according to Eggman Empire's own laws regarding violation of property, per an agreement with my gracious friend Sakurai. Especially if the one causes the damage is a certain hedgehog."

(My mind went to Sonic Colors and the PA system Eggman uses there, yes.)
 
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SNEKeater

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Atelier games are... not your average JRPG fare to say the least? Less SAVE THE WORLD FROM IMPENDING DOOM, more slice of life with alchemy, character and relationship development, and cute character designs? And also more exploring the lore of their own world. nice change of pace from the average JRPG
That sounds cool! Then I might try the game in the future, if anything I'll probably check more videos about the game and wait for a sale, but I like what you're describing about Atelier.
 

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Huh, I don't recall Sakurai using German words at all.

Waaait... XCX uses German phrases for its some of its songs (such as "Wir Fliegen") , Elma confirmed. :4pacman:




"My stage, the Eggman Amusement Park, will not be liable to any damage caused to it during a Smash Bros. match. In fact, anyone who damages the park will be prosecuted according to Eggman Empire's own legal laws regarding violation of property, per an agreement with my gracious friend Sakurai. Especially if the one causes the damage is a certain hedgehog."

(My mind went to Sonic Colors and the PA system Eggman uses there, yes.)
you joke but... don't give me hope like that... 😭
 

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unleashed used to be hated but most people (or most sonic fans at least) have started to praise the boost levels, even if the werehog is still bad.
And even then I've seen some people admit that the Werehog stages aren't all that bad in the first place (Though I think everyone still agrees that they need more musical variety). It was just too much of a jump, especially when the Boost formula was new and needed to make a good first impression
 

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honestly tho a colors pc port would be ace, i never owned the game but i watched playthrus back in college and that writing, it was hilarious. cheered me up

level designs were nice too
 

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Very clearly fake and all... but I can`t stop hyping myself up for Eggman. Anyway, I know Death Egg Zone should be the obvious choice for a stage, but what do you guys think?
Honestly? For me it's between Studiopolis and Space Colony ARK. Because, respectively, Sonic's casino levels (and its "here's a relatively mundane locale turned into a zany platforming sequence" levels in general) are some of my favorite things, and Sonic Adventure 2 ruled.
 

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Very clearly fake and all... but I can`t stop hyping myself up for Eggman. Anyway, I know Death Egg Zone should be the obvious choice for a stage, but what do you guys think?
Space Colony ARK

I've wanted that as a stage for as long as i've known what the hell a Smash Brothers was. I even tried to make it in every iteration of Stage builder Including Brawls.
 

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Very clearly fake and all... but I can`t stop hyping myself up for Eggman. Anyway, I know Death Egg Zone should be the obvious choice for a stage, but what do you guys think?
I like the idea of the Egg Fleet better. We've never had a stage set on a flotilla of massive, flying battleships yet, have we? Maybe even the Final Fortress, if they want a darker setting.
 
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Very clearly fake and all... but I can`t stop hyping myself up for Eggman. Anyway, I know Death Egg Zone should be the obvious choice for a stage, but what do you guys think?
definently agree that eggman's stage should be death egg, though my sonic stage of choice would be chemical plant death egg just makes sense for eggman
 

Munchi

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I was watching an Atelier Ryza 2 stream recently because yes. I wasn't particularly interested in the game, but while I was watching the stream I heard the battle theme... and oh my god, such a banger. I really love the feeling of adventure and good vibes the song has.

I'm gonna share it here because I think some people around here are fans of the series. But I must say, after hearing this track now I'm curious and might try the new game lmao

That's a good music but I have a better one
 
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