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So Sakurai will take over developing Play Station All-Stars to finally give Smash some competition for a casual crossover fighter.
Shadow, Impa, Dixie, and Tom Nook are others I could conceivably see if they do an echo pass or something.
Agreed. I've been expecting them to be revealed any minute now since E3 2018.
Falco is hype af as is, though, and Young Link isn't bad either, especially as played by Axe. I would probably give Falco his sniper rifle and more avian moves or physics, but not if it would ruin the cool **** he can do now.
Players should be able to arrange the roster however they want. I bet that can be modded.
Honestly that would be a really neat feature. It'd also be funny to see all the memes of the "perfect roster" with characters like Mario missing. At least, it'd be funny until people stop joking and it just becomes a flame war.
I don't see Shadow since he's an echo.
What Alternate Timeline are you in?
Wait he is? Aw man I must have missed him because I always play in the dark.
You meant Assist Trophy right?
Pardon?
Wouldn't that make Shadow the only character on the roster if you play in the dark?Wait he is? Aw man I must have missed him because I always play in the dark.
I think you meant Assist Trophy?
Nah, the TV screen emits light, so it would have to be off for that to be the case, but then the rest of the game wouldn't work.
I would personally love that. Being arranged by series always made sense to me. Mario characters in the beginning, third party characters at the end. That’s the way I like it.
I have no idea. All I know is that they would need to find someone. Smash is too much of a staple at this point. Smash is the entire reason the Wii U was able to survive any longer than two years. I had three friends who owned Wii U’s solely as a “Smash machine.”
The Kirby series current director, Shinya Kumazaki would be great. He's given the Kirby series lots of fan service and I think he could do well with Smash Bros.
You all think he made a mistake and he replies with "Nah. I meant what I said!" and later we get a Shadow echo fighter.
Did you just die? is this a Creepypasta reference?
I know I only got the Switch because of Smash Ultimate, and it's the only 1st party title I currently have.
I'm afraid so. Shadow.exe grabbed them through the TV.
I honestly hate the way the characters are arranged on the CSS. It's just confusing, especially so for players who aren't huge Smash nerds so they don't know the order the characters were added in (and then, that gets messed up when echoes are next to the originals). If I had to guess, they probably did it that way so that the DLC characters would be less awkwardly-placed (we would have all Mario characters at the beginning, and then Piranha Plant way towards the bottom) but I'd honestly prefer that because you'd just be able to think, "DLC, so somewhere in the bottom two rows" and be able to find the other Mario characters far easier. I wish we at least had a few more options for how we'd like to organize the roster beyond "echoes stacked or unstacked" (which, imo is kind of a crappy option because that makes the echo fighters difficult to find)
I feel like once a .EXE grabs you, your Soul/Spirit wouldn't be that easy to free. I imagine if Smash puppy was in Next Spirit event, we also get Shadow.EXE Boss fight, which would be cool since it shows new bosses are being added
If it makes you feel any better. You're probably right that he wouldn't be in an echo pass because of the assist trophy
Doesn't she have a Rapier though? That's gonna be hard to fit into Joker's Current moveset, also I thought the theory with Kasumi was that she was planned as an echo or alt, but scrapped because it would be unfeasible to echofy her
Both her weapon types are unsuited to being a Joker echo.
Honestly I could see that working. Ever since he took the helm, Kirby's brought in lots of callbacks and continuity, culminating in a literal god of evil who is also Kirby himself or his dad or something. With a big crossover like Smash, Kumazaki's style would fit perfectly.
I’d love a Joker echo, but it’s kind of hard to picture any character and persona that could replicate Joker and Arsene. Kasumi, Crow, or Yu seem like the best fits, but they would still have to make Cendrillon, Robinhood, or Izanagi fit over Arsene. I’m not sure if an echo would be worth all that trouble.
Y'know it's funny. I'm one of those who fully believes that assist trophies can't be upgraded to playable characters. I'm also somewhat of a general hater of the Sonic franchise in general. But I feel like in the hypothetical scenario that we do get an echo pass, then Shadow will make the cut.
For sure they wouldn't make new stages for echos. More music is always a good thing, but most the popular echo suggestions that people toss around are of characters from franchises who already have a pretty decent music selection in Smash. If echo DLC ever became a thing, I'd probably predict that they'd come alone without a music or stage.
Do you really think people will care outside of the AT apologist bubble when fighters always have a lot more resources put into them? An AT is lucky to even have more than 3 moves while fighters have at least 23.
Most people wouldn't care. But some might, and at the end of the day Nintendo still has tons of options for Smash candidates so why go with the option where there's even a possible issue.
SOME might. Just like some might care that Byleth is an 8th Fire Emblem character instead of from a new franchise.
Having an assist promoted to DLC would be a quite interesting concept. An assist trophy like Knuckles does have some moves done and probably wouldn't take as much time to be finished than a full original fighter. But i personally wouldn't count on it, there's a reason for why they're assist trophies at first place.
Can i go to your alternate timeline please? Mine sucks.
Any Smash pick will come with some amount of controversy. But I feel there's a distinction between people being dissatisfied with a certain pick because they dislike a character or franchise from people being dissatisfied because they are getting less than what they pay for. I know that reasoning is dumb, and any character they produce would be well worth the money, but there you have it.
But they only barely are getting less than what they pay for. Again, ATs only have a fraction of the moves that fighters have, let alone gimmicky DLC ones.
I read somewhere that the code for Royal supposedly indicated that Kasumi shared Joker's dagger and gun at some point in development, although I'm not entirely sure on the validity of that claim and haven't found the code for myself.
Smash fans tend to get more volatile and emotionally involved than fans of other fighting game franchises, I feel. At the very least, the game's huge and vocal playerbase makes it seem that way sometimes. (The fact that Chrom still exists as part of Robin's final smash despite being a playable character triggers me to no end, you have no idea.)
