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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

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chocolatejr9

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Okay, to anybody here who plays MOBAs, I was kinda curious... if Smite were to get a rep in Smash, who would it be? I don't actually PLAY Smite, but I've always been curious about it. I mean, they just announced they're adding Mesopotamian Gods to the game, can you blame me?

Though I doubt Smite would get in before something like LOL.
 

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The only MOBA I played was Heroes of the Storm and that was only when they were doing the promotions of the Oni Genji and Officer D.Va skins. The gameplay wasn't bad and I did pretty decently with Lucio, but unfortunately, despite playing Starcraft and Warcraft III alongside Overwatch, the cast of characters did not do it for me and I uninstalled it at some point to make space.

MOBAs are definitely one of those genres where besides the gameplay, the characters have to appeal enough to you, otherwise it doesn't really do anything for you. For me, if a series I really like were to make a MOBA, I'd probably be willing to dedicate myself, but otherwise, it's something I'll ignore quite quickly.
 

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Okay, to anybody here who plays MOBAs, I was kinda curious... if Smite were to get a rep in Smash, who would it be? I don't actually PLAY Smite, but I've always been curious about it. I mean, they just announced they're adding Mesopotamian Gods to the game, can you blame me?

Though I doubt Smite would get in before something like LOL.
I've played Smite for a little bit so i'm no expert but from what I've gathered it would be

THE TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES! /s



There isn't really someone who is overtly important in advertising or even the fans from what I've gathered, If I had to make a guess maybe Bellona, Zeus or Loki. Bastet and Neith I've seen talked about but that is mainly because of a little thing called "The Horny ™ "
 
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chocolatejr9

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I've played Smite for a little bit so i'm no expert but from what I've gathered it would be

THE TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES! /s



There isn't really someone who is overtly important in advertising or even the fans from what I've gathered, If I had to make a guess maybe Bellona, Zeus or Loki. Bastet and Neith I've seen talked about but that is mainly because of a little thing called "The Horny ™ "
I would've gone with Team RWBY, but that works too...

Also, Rie Sonomura Rie Sonomura get the Bonk Stick ready, just in case.
 

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Okay, to anybody here who plays MOBAs, I was kinda curious... if Smite were to get a rep in Smash, who would it be? I don't actually PLAY Smite, but I've always been curious about it. I mean, they just announced they're adding Mesopotamian Gods to the game, can you blame me?

Though I doubt Smite would get in before something like LOL.
I would go with Bellona if I had to make a guess. She's in the title screen, she's one of the free gods you get when you start the game (making her accessible), and she's popularly played in both casual and competitive settings. Outside of her there's also Anubis, Thor, Zeus, Neith, Kukulkan and a few others that are very popular/played a lot.
 

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Controversial post coming up.

I'm bored.
Build a fighter pass that's NOT for good boys and girls.

I'd start. But I'm mostly a good boy...

... Sometimes.
Might as well suggest Jecht as one of the picks.

I mean, considering how people reacted to Shirtless Sephiroth, Jecht would probably cause mass fainting amongst both genders:




MOBAs are definitely one of those genres where besides the gameplay, the characters have to appeal enough to you, otherwise it doesn't really do anything for you. For me, if a series I really like were to make a MOBA, I'd probably be willing to dedicate myself, but otherwise, it's something I'll ignore quite quickly.
That's honestly a good point, and as someone who played the original Dota when it was a WC3 map / mod I distinctly recall liking several of the characters because they were for all intents and purposes the WC3 characters. It made it much easier for me personally to get into Dota when it was a new thing, and consequently it made it much easier for me to accept and transition to Dota 2. It's a strong part of it, but I was also extremely excited over Valve's unveiling of Dota 2 back in 2011, and the tournament meaning that a game I thoroughly enjoyed had made it big.

Dota 2 makes quite a few changes to the characters. Mostly lore, like changing the Skeleton King's name from Leoric - who's originally a Diablo boss - to Ostarion, and eventually revamping his look to the Wraith King in a big lore-altering event to avoid legal trouble. However, the Wraith King remains very similar gameplay wise, and the Skeleton King returned as a cosmetic alt last summer.
 
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chocolatejr9

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Might as well suggest Jecht as one of the picks.

I mean, considering how people reacted to Shirtless Sephiroth, Jecht would probably cause mass fainting amongst both genders:






That's honestly a good point, and as someone who played the original Dota when it was a WC3 map / mod I distinctly recall liking several of the characters because they were for all intents and purposes the WC3 characters. It made it much easier for me personally to get into Dota when it was a new thing, and consequently it made it much easier for me to accept and transition to Dota 2. It's a strong part of it, but I was also extremely excited over Valve's unveiling of Dota 2 back in 2011, and the tournament meaning that a game I thoroughly enjoyed had made it big.

Dota 2 makes quite a few changes to the characters. Mostly lore, like changing the Skeleton King's name from Leoric - who's originally a Diablo boss - to Ostarion, and eventually revamping his look to the Wraith King in a big lore-altering event to avoid legal trouble. However, the Wraith King remains very similar gameplay wise, and the Skeleton King returned as a cosmetic alt last summer.
I don't know, the tattoo is pretty distracting...
 

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Okay, to anybody here who plays MOBAs, I was kinda curious... if Smite were to get a rep in Smash, who would it be? I don't actually PLAY Smite, but I've always been curious about it. I mean, they just announced they're adding Mesopotamian Gods to the game, can you blame me?

Though I doubt Smite would get in before something like LOL.
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I’d say Cthulu but thats because I’m biased.
 
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And I just realized, we've not gotten a Nintendo New York reaction for any of the characters in FP2
I imagine Sephiroth's reveal there and I weep...

I wasn't trying to say that was a bad thing. Watching the world subsequently burn after a Smash reveal is my favorite part.
Speaking of NY reactions. The Byleth one is a classic. So much nothing.

Unless... was there ever a female version of Nightmare?
Well, there's Elysium, who is basically Nightmare, but for the SoulCalibur instead of the Soul Edge.

Build a fighter pass that's NOT for good boys and girls.
Morrigan [Darkstalkers]
Kasumi [Dead or Alive]
Ivy [Soul Calibur]
Rayne [Bloodrayne]
Larry Laffer [Leisure Suit Larry]
Custer [Custer's Revenge]
 
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I imagine Sephiroth's reveal there and I weep...

Speaking of NY reactions. The Byleth one is a classic. So much nothing.
If listened closely, Byleth’s trailer is the most clearly heard. Everyone has no idea how to process FE getting another one. The Mii costumes got more love there!

Sephiroth I imagine would definitely have had unanimous praise at NY.

As for the other FP2 chars and their Mii’s, here’s how I think they would have gone at Nintendo NY:

Min Min - The general ARMS reveal would probably start a in store fight over who would get in. That or be met with some form of less awkward silence. The actual reveal would have much more praising or, depending on who the crowd wanted, sadness. Vault Boy Mii would be 100% loved though, others I am not sure of.

Steve - If Twitter crashing shortly after the reveal is any indication, NY would have lost their minds. Probably on Sans tier levels if not higher. Mii costumes would have been positive, Travis and Bomberman especially.

Sephiroth Mii costumes - All positive except I’m not sure how some at NY would react to Geno. I guess it all depends on the crowd and their wants.
 

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I have so many more ideas for costumes with songs. Gunvolt with Eternal Blue; Ori with Light of Nibel; Monokuma with a Danganronpa medley etc.

Tbf, I wonder if we’ll get that rumored Hollow Knight sword fighter with that one remix...

SPEAKING OF RUMORS.

Ah **** here we go again:
Definitely fake. I don’t see us living in the timeline where anyone involved would think turning a guaranteed money maker/attention bringing character like that into a Mii is a good idea.

The closest thing to that so far is the Assassin’s Creed costume, but they still chose Altair instead of the far more popular Ezio.

Really good mod though. The colors are a nice touch, lots of Red vs Blue references there. I think that is another sign it’s a fake. The Yellow seems like a very specific RvB reference & isn’t a common Halo color. Also, Black isn’t a color you can use in Halo; Sakurai is a stickler for stuff like that, so I doubt he’d have this Mii use it.
 

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I would've gone with Team RWBY, but that works too...

Also, Rie Sonomura Rie Sonomura get the Bonk Stick ready, just in case.
As someone who really used to love RWBY, it really needs to either be completely redone by a company that cares or left to go the way of most series. I really would be kinda miffed if any of them got in, but in all honesty that will never happen, and most of the things entertained here will never happen as video game characters are the one hard rule we really have.

As for the chances of getting a MOBA rep, I would say that aren't super high, but if it did happen a character from LoL is the only choice. For better or wrose, no other MOBA matters near as much as LoL does in terms of legacy, even over DOTA now. I imagine it would be some sort of waifu from the game and I can only imagine how hard Tencent would fight to force a bundle that costs way more than the rest and has a metric ****ton of skins.

Also, I see people are talking about a Pokemon rep again, so let me stress this once again.

Pokemon is up there on the list of least likely franchises to get a rep in DLC.

There are many reasons for this, but frankly it's because Sakurai has always made room in the base game for one or more for a while now, and the only time that changed was for Mewtwo to return in Smash 4. Melee brought Mewtwo and Pichu, Brawl lost Mewtwo and Pichu and brought Pokemon Trainer and Lucario. Smash 4 reduced Pokemon Trainer to Charizard and brought in Greninja, then Mewtwo the biggest veteran request in DLC. After that we got Incineroar.

People seem to forget that Smash has skipped previous Gens before. We have no playable rep from Gen 3 (big sad for me there) and Gen 5, and the only reason we got one for Gen 6 was because Sakurai specifically held a slot for a Pokemon for Gen 6 and had to get designs of Greninja early (or at least rumored to be that way) so as to get them into the game. This will likely just be another situation in which either Gen 8 will be skipped or will get one the next Smash title comes out before Gen 9 has anything to work with. That, or at BEST, if we get more DLC after this FP we MAY get a Gen 8 mon, but TPC really dislikes Pokemon DLC for non-Pokemon games so it's really iffy.
 

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Know I'm late but happy 1 year anniversary to :ultbyleth::ultbylethf:! They are one of my favorite SSBU DLC additions besides Sephiroth and the only ones I cared about in FP1 personally. I quite like their moveset too and do have Byleth as a secondary.

Figured I'd share this beautiful masterpiece to celebrate the occasion:

 

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The one year anniversary of these reveals.

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - Byleth Reveal Trailer - YouTube
Byleth Recruits ...Byleth! by CherryR95 on DeviantArt


For all the controversy it may have gotten, it was, however, the last reveal we got before everything went into lockdown hell. I can't deny I at least have some nostalgia for those precious first few months of 2020 before everyone's non-online social life went to sh**. They were technically the last DLC characters that we got to experience at large in person Smash gatherings too.
Crazy how Byleth was one of the best characters in the first pass along with Terry anyway. Love that for them both.
 

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Crazy how Byleth was one of the best characters in the first pass along with Terry anyway. Love that for them both.
It's nice to see more and more people sharing this sort of opinion publicly. People who are still complaining about Byleth a year later are just beating a dead horse at this point. I'm exaggerating, obviously, but it's pretty nauseating how some people refuse to let go of such petty squabbles, and I can just tell there's bound to be even more in the future.
 
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I mean, didn't that show's original creator die?
I've been eyeballing it for a while, and while that is true, as far as I know, the FNDM is completely ravaged by whether or not the show stayed good, got better or worse, or was ever good in the first place as time went on. I think I'd be interested in the later episodes, but the hatedom's attitude to the show as a whole just seems boisterous enough to turn me away (I'm assuming they're that kind of hatedom, considering the sort of videos the most prominent members put out).
 

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So I read a rumor about the next Mario Kart effectively becoming Nintendo Kart and finally going the Smash route. I don't know how much holds it has but that of course would be awesome. How do you think the roster is going to shape up if that's so?

I'm expecting the style going very different than Kart 8, every character is going to have their own karts (maybe everyone has a standard one) and a track at least. I also expect it to be huge if true, like a massive roster from the get go. Something like:

1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Yoshi
5. Wario
6. Bowser
7. Rosalina & Lumas
8. Bowser Jr.
9. Donkey Kong
10. Diddy & Dixie Kong
11. King K. Rool
12. Link
13. Zelda
14. Ganondorf
15. Impa
16. Tingle
17. Samus Aran
18. Mother Brain (yes)
19. Kirby
20. Meta Knight
21. King Dedede
22. Bandana Waddle Dee
23. Fox McCloud
24. Krystal
25. Pokémon Trainer & Pikachu
26. Mewtwo
27. Lucario
28. Cinderace
29. Captain Falcon
30. Ness, Paula & Poo (all three together)
31. Marth
32. Lucina
33. Edelgard
34. Black Knight
35. Pit
36. Palutena
37. Hades
38. Olimar & Pikmins
39. Villager
40. Isabelle
41. Tom Nook
42. K. K. Slider
43. Little Mac
44. Shulk
45. Rex & Pyra
46. Duck Hunt Duo
47. Inkling
48. Min Min
49. Twintelle
50. Mach Rider
51. Excite Biker
52. Ring Fit Trainee
53. Virtual Boy
54. Sheriff
55. Mr. Hanafuda
56. Diskun
57. Shigeru Miyamoto
58. Miis

Explicitly Nintendo only, no exceptions. Alt characters like Metal Mario could be relegated to alternate costumes easily. Very close to Smash of course but that's inevitable if they go down this road, but I feel for a kart racing game certain characters could be bundled up together to make space on the selection screen
 

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So I read a rumor about the next Mario Kart effectively becoming Nintendo Kart and finally going the Smash route. I don't know how much holds it has but that of course would be awesome. How do you think the roster is going to shape up if that's so?

I'm expecting the style going very different than Kart 8, every character is going to have their own karts (maybe everyone has a standard one) and a track at least. I also expect it to be huge if true, like a massive roster from the get go. Something like:

1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Yoshi
5. Wario
6. Bowser
7. Rosalina & Lumas
8. Bowser Jr.
9. Donkey Kong
10. Diddy & Dixie Kong
11. King K. Rool
12. Link
13. Zelda
14. Ganondorf
15. Impa
16. Tingle
17. Samus Aran
18. Mother Brain (yes)
19. Kirby
20. Meta Knight
21. King Dedede
22. Bandana Waddle Dee
23. Fox McCloud
24. Krystal
25. Pokémon Trainer & Pikachu
26. Mewtwo
27. Lucario
28. Cinderace
29. Captain Falcon
30. Ness, Paula & Poo (all three together)
31. Marth
32. Lucina
33. Edelgard
34. Black Knight
35. Pit
36. Palutena
37. Hades
38. Olimar & Pikmins
39. Villager
40. Isabelle
41. Tom Nook
42. K. K. Slider
43. Little Mac
44. Shulk
45. Rex & Pyra
46. Duck Hunt Duo
47. Inkling
48. Min Min
49. Twintelle
50. Mach Rider
51. Excite Biker
52. Ring Fit Trainee
53. Virtual Boy
54. Sheriff
55. Mr. Hanafuda
56. Diskun
57. Shigeru Miyamoto
58. Miis

Explicitly Nintendo only, no exceptions. Alt characters like Metal Mario could be relegated to alternate costumes easily. Very close to Smash of course but that's inevitable if they go down this road, but I feel for a kart racing game certain characters could be bundled up together to make space on the selection screen
I prefer it to be just Mario Kart but they add characters from the Mario Cinematic Universe and a few guests her and there.






And also I can't imagine Edelgard and Shulk riding a kart.. that is nightmare inducing
 

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Can anyone tell me why people think Master Chief would be Mii? Do they really take Microsoft as naive? Just because they lended two of their characters doesn't mean they don't have say in decision making. Mii isn't that much of advertisement. If regular fans know that, MS should definitely know this.
Why would MS be satisfied with Mii on their most important franchise? Those people can't explain without any good reason.

He's the least likely to be Mii out of all the characters that get brought on the table. I can say Crash has higher chance of being Mii, but you guys know that sounds ridiculous.
 

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I have so many more ideas for costumes with songs. Gunvolt with Eternal Blue; Ori with Light of Nibel; Monokuma with a Danganronpa medley etc.

Tbf, I wonder if we’ll get that rumored Hollow Knight sword fighter with that one remix...

SPEAKING OF RUMORS.

Ah **** here we go again:
Probably would have been more believable if it was posted before the Steve presentation.
 

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So I read a rumor about the next Mario Kart effectively becoming Nintendo Kart and finally going the Smash route. I don't know how much holds it has but that of course would be awesome. How do you think the roster is going to shape up if that's so?

I'm expecting the style going very different than Kart 8, every character is going to have their own karts (maybe everyone has a standard one) and a track at least. I also expect it to be huge if true, like a massive roster from the get go. Something like:

1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Yoshi
5. Wario
6. Bowser
7. Rosalina & Lumas
8. Bowser Jr.
9. Donkey Kong
10. Diddy & Dixie Kong
11. King K. Rool
12. Link
13. Zelda
14. Ganondorf
15. Impa
16. Tingle
17. Samus Aran
18. Mother Brain (yes)
19. Kirby
20. Meta Knight
21. King Dedede
22. Bandana Waddle Dee
23. Fox McCloud
24. Krystal
25. Pokémon Trainer & Pikachu
26. Mewtwo
27. Lucario
28. Cinderace
29. Captain Falcon
30. Ness, Paula & Poo (all three together)
31. Marth
32. Lucina
33. Edelgard
34. Black Knight
35. Pit
36. Palutena
37. Hades
38. Olimar & Pikmins
39. Villager
40. Isabelle
41. Tom Nook
42. K. K. Slider
43. Little Mac
44. Shulk
45. Rex & Pyra
46. Duck Hunt Duo
47. Inkling
48. Min Min
49. Twintelle
50. Mach Rider
51. Excite Biker
52. Ring Fit Trainee
53. Virtual Boy
54. Sheriff
55. Mr. Hanafuda
56. Diskun
57. Shigeru Miyamoto
58. Miis

Explicitly Nintendo only, no exceptions. Alt characters like Metal Mario could be relegated to alternate costumes easily. Very close to Smash of course but that's inevitable if they go down this road, but I feel for a kart racing game certain characters could be bundled up together to make space on the selection screen
I don't mind MK getting more guests but IMO should be very limited. I personally dont wanna see say Marth or Min Min in Mario Kart.

Below are the only guest characters I'd want in Mario Kart:

:ultfalcon: (no brainer)
:ultdiddy:(veteran)
:ultfox: (landmaster as a kart)
:ultkirby:
:ultrob: (veteran)
:ultsamus: (uses her gunship as a kart)
:ulttoonlink: (swap for Adult Link I think Toon fits Mario Kart's aesthetic more than adult Link)
:ultsonic:
:ultmegaman: (uses Rush as a kart)
:ultpacman:
Mach Rider
 
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Should probably tell whoever runs that site that Nightmare is technically a husbando, not a waifu.

Unless... was there ever a female version of Nightmare?
Closest thing would be Pyrrha Omega in Soulcalibur V

Well, there's Elysium, who is basically Nightmare, but for the SoulCalibur instead of the Soul Edge.
Technically incorrect.

Nightmare isn't the living will of Soul Edge, rather the wielder of the sword possessed by said will, Inferno.

So the better comparison for Elysium would be Inferno, not Nightmare. :p
 
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