Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Momotsuki]

"Mind telling me what you're doing in Smash?"
Dammit, I'm not even a huge Halo nerd and it's such an easy reveal trailer to picture in my head.

 

[Schnee117]

The title is called "The Final Battle" which could be a reference to Master Chief's "Finishing the fight" line at the end of Halo 2.

The Final Battle can apply to almost anything

 

[True Blue Warrior]

The title is called "The Final Battle" which could be a reference to Master Chief's "Finishing the fight" line at the end of Halo 2.

You mean the title of a cutscene for World of Light back when the second pass wasn't even planned? Master Chief can still happen tomorrow but this is a reach.

I mean, Terry was revealed during someone else's Sakurai Presents, so that counts for something.

He was revealed in the September Direct before BK's presentation.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I mean, Terry was revealed during someone else's Sakurai Presents, so that counts for something.

Yeah that's true. I forgot about that since it wasn't his own.

I swear to God every single tiny thing that happens is a hint towards Master Chief and Doomguy for y'all

Nothing happened though. People are just bringing him up because they want to.

 

[RileyXY1]

The Final Battle can apply to almost anything

Yeah. It's a generic title and doesn't mean anything.

 

[Theguy123]

I think Europe might have just give us the big hint of the final fighter. The Final Battle. Same name as this cutscene in Ultimate

✂️ The Final Battle

27 seconds · Clipped by CommanderZaktan · Original video "Super Smash Bros Ultimate: The Movie HD All Cutscenes" by AbdallahSmash

youtube.com

I think I know who it is. Time to finish this fight.

not necessarily. They posted the exact same thing the day of the September direct after we found out about the sakurai fins presents date.

it’s most likely a pun of what they call The presents in Europe. In Europe they’re usually called “battle with …”

since it’s the last fighter they probably just changed it up to “the final battle”

the last character’s trailer could take place in the final battle but I’m more betting that it’s one of the following 2

1) it’s just a pun they made

Or

2) “the final battle” is referring to something specifically associated with the character and not actually the final battle of WOL.

For example master chief who’s got that famous “finishing the fight” quote which would fit perfectly with the final battle of smash bros ultimate

or someone like Layton who’s final chapters of each game in the 2nd trilogy are plays of the wording “the final…” and include 2 final battles which are called….. “the final battle”

I’m betting on the 1st option though. Probably means nothing.

 

[Momotsuki]

You mean the title of a cutscene for World of Light back when the second pass wasn't even planned? Master Chief can still happen tomorrow but this is a reach.

Reach, you say?
HELP.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Um...It's called The Final Mr. Sakurai Presents for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. where are people getting The Final Battle from?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Less then 24 hours.

These three years had been fun for the most part.

 

[Deleted member]

Nothing happened though. People are just bringing him up because they want to.

Nothing aside from people speculating that Sakurai is warning the Japanese audience to expect a character they might not know/care about.

This kind of hanging onto his otherwise innocuous words is why he won't talk about video games.

 

[2006ToyotaTacoma]

Ooooh boy it's Kazuya day, time to gush.

Heihachi was one of my most wanteds going into Ultimate: the moveset potential, the music, the potential see him fight Ryu (again). He was easily in my top 5 going into Ultimate.... which is why it hurt seeing him get Mii'd. I was with the majority of the speculation scene thinking Tekken was out, and that if Bamco got a rep it'd be Lloyd or someone from Dark Souls.

Queue E3 2020. I was going in expecting a big name: Chief, Crash, Hayabusa, Dante, etc. The trailer starts and I immediately recognize what series it was by the lava and cliff: Tekken. Was. In.

While not Heihachi, Kazuya has easily become my favorite DLC, no, my favorite NEWCOMER in all of Smash Ultimate, and quickly dethroned Snake as my new main. Everything about his pack is just perfect: the moveset, the music, the stage (with the ol' Karate Grandpa making a good ol appearance) make this my favorite pack of the entire DLC.

At this point, thanks to Kazuya, idc who the last character is. I'm already content.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Reach, you say?
HELP.

Reach for the stars.

 

[2006ToyotaTacoma]

Um...It's called The Final Mr. Sakurai Presents for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. where are people getting The Final Battle from?

It's the title for the UK Presentation:

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate – Battling with Sora (Nintendo Switch)

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www.youtube.com

 

[Stepheon]

The title is called "The Final Battle" which could be a reference to Master Chief's "Finishing the fight" line at the end of Halo 2.

Noooo. It’s all making so much sense. They are basically all but telling us “Master Chief reveal tomorrow!”

 

[BernkastelWitch]

Honestly even if the characters I personally want aren't the last fighter, I suspect that Ultimate permanently changed the speculation scene for possible future Smash games.

Over the course of Ultimate we had a lot of characters who would be previously scene as "oddball" or "weird" wants like Doom Guy, Sol Badguy, Reimu, 2B, and hell, even choices like Monokuma or an LoL rep or Saber of all people actually be seen in a serious light and not some "meme/****post" pick.

And honestly? I hope these choices stay in the speculation scene. I love how unorthodox character speculation is beyond the typical Sora/Geno/Crash groups. It's refreshing.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

It's the title for the UK Presentation:

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate – Battling with Sora (Nintendo Switch)

Buy Fighters Pass Vol. 2: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-Switch/Super-Smash-Bros-Ultimate-1395713.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=youtube&utm_ca...

www.youtube.com

I see. Doesn't really mean that much.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

It's the title for the UK Presentation:

Yeah it seems like I needed to have been privy to something that happened 20+ pages ago. lol

 

[RileyXY1]

I see. Doesn't really mean that much.

Well, yes, it doesn't. It's completely generic-sounding.

 

[Dukefire]

The US version

Spoiler: Image 1

UK version

Spoiler: Image 2

Both are covering the same topic

 

[SNEKeater]

Huh looks like things are interesting.

After reading the multiple new tweets and all I still feel these can be interpreted in more than one way. Though they're kinda weird, that I will concede. It also doesn't help that Harada is having a fun time lol

The thing that weirds me out the most is how Sakurai didn't post the "the character might not be one that you know" tweet in english. As far as I can remember these kind of tweets he does are always both in japanese and english. Maybe he forgot to post the english one? Idk.

I still have the feeling it could be anyone: big characters, small characters, and so on.

 

[Deleted member]

It's the title for the UK Presentation:

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate – Battling with Sora (Nintendo Switch)

Buy Fighters Pass Vol. 2: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-Switch/Super-Smash-Bros-Ultimate-1395713.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=youtube&utm_ca...

www.youtube.com

How many final battles are there in video games?

Oh yeah, that's right. One for every game in which there are fights.

I'm not a big Halo guy. I'm not a Halo guy at all, actually, but I seem to recall that "finish the fight" was Halo 3's tagline, right? There's been like 50 Halo games since the fight was finished, so hanging on that one line feels like it's just... this generation of gamers, I guess?

I feel like I remember that Halo 1 was essentially subtitled "Combat Evolved", and I'm having this wild imagination trip of some Nintendo source putting out some tagline like "Smash Evolved" and all the Chief fans losing their **** only for it to be Pokemon. I am laughing.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

It also doesn't help that Harada is having a fun time lol

I saw a tweet of him saying "let's be surprised together" when I was going back and looking so that might mean that he actually doesn't know who it is.

 

[SNEKeater]

How many final battles are there in video games?

Oh yeah, that's right. One for every game in which there are fights.

I'm not a big Halo guy. I'm not a Halo guy at all, actually, but I seem to recall that "finish the fight" was Halo 3's tagline, right? There's been like 50 Halo games since the fight was finished, so hanging on that one line feels like it's just... this generation of gamers, I guess?

I feel like I remember that Halo 1 was essentially subtitled "Combat Evolved", and I'm having this wild imagination trip of some Nintendo source putting out some tagline like "Smash Evolved" and all the Chief fans losing their **** only for it to be Pokemon. I am laughing.

Finish the Fight is indeed a Halo 3 thing. It's from a commercial/trailer. And well, it's also a track from the OST. The tagline appears at the end of this trailer

People associates that with Halo 3 because the tagline and the trailer were kinda iconic.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

The thing that weirds me out the most is how Sakurai didn't post the "the character might not be one that you know" tweet in english. As far as I can remember these kind of tweets he does are always both in japanese and english. Maybe he forgot to post the english one? Idk.

Don't know, but something like this reminds me of this.

 

[spicynun]

Wow now this is the end game speculation that I wanted. What a roller coaster. The most likely character seems to change by the day based on different circumstances. From Sora to Master Chief to who knows who next. Less than 24 hours now

 

[MattX20]

My most hated/least wanted character was Heihachi, and was glad he was Mii'd, but I must admit Kazuya had some cool gameplay aspects to him. That, and the music track selection was pretty nice as well. That Mii Costume wave though...yikes

 

[N3ON]

It's nice to know that no matter how much things change or fluctuate, there are some constants you can count on like the fanbase going in to the last presentation legit expecting Sora and/or Chief, the biggest megatons left. It's just

Classic Smash spec

 

[Dukefire]

Lets be honest.
Every new character (except the echoes and Piranha Plant) has brought in a favorite Music Track.
Ridley: vs Ridley
Simon and Richter: Bloody Tears
King K Rool: Gang Plank Galleon
Isabelle: idk what animal crossing music fit
Ken: guess his fighting stage music
Incinaroar: Pokemon battle theme idk
Joker: The Last Surprise
Hero: IDK which of the 8 tracks fit
Banjo & Kazooie: Spiral Mountain
Terry: can someone help me fill this one
Byleth: Remix of FE Three Houses Opening song (why no God Shattering Star?)
Min Min: Remix of the ARMS opening music
Steve: Halland/ Dalarna
Sephiroth: One Winged-Angel remix and standard
Pyra/Mythra: Help me with this one
Kazuya: Moonlit Wilderness
???: ???

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

I'm putting all my chips down on Half Life, got a real good feeling despite it being based on practically nothing. Although, I wonder what a TF2 character could look like as well.

 

[PeridotGX]

This would work if it weren't for the fact that the Japanese reveals are always "joins the fight/joins the battle". They could always change it up, of course.


One has to wonder about World of Light at this point. It has one ending in the base game but it has been featured in DLC trailers a few times now. Sephiroth pretty brutally ended Galeem and now we just have Dharkon to worry about.

If they actually bother finishing that plotline, the character is either some kind of ultimate good, or a bad guy beyond Dharkon, and by extension, beyond Sephiroth.


I mean, Terry was revealed during someone else's Sakurai Presents, so that counts for something.

There's only one way to stop Sephiroth and Dharkon...

 

[dezeray112]

Reach for the stars.

Happy memories!

Anyways hard to believe we are now under 24hrs until the final reveal.

Whatever happens, it has been quite a journey for Smash Bros. Ultimate as we had seen a ton of surprises whether this is from getting a tease with the Inklings to the "Everyone is Here!" moment dating back from its first reveal during E3 2018 to revealing the contents of the Fighters Passes 1 and 2.

 

[2006ToyotaTacoma]

It's insane that we're already less than a day left til the reveal.

I'll probably be going inactive from here on out since I have college work to focus on, and just to be on the safe side in case the final character actually ends up being leaked just beforehand.

Just want to say it's been a wild ride fellas, and I'll see y'all on the other side.

 

[Deleted member]

Pyra/Mythra: Help me with this one

According to all the Xenoblade 2 fans who are definitely in it for the gameplay, story and music, "Counterattack" is the favorite. Most people immediately took to the streets to yell angrily about how they "ruined" Counterattack (a cutscene song) by remixing it to be more lively for a fighting game.

My personal favorite is Roaming the Wastes, though. I didn't get far enough in XC2 to find out that it had any true bangers, but there it is.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Lowkey, still bugs me there's no Xenoblade Chronicles X music.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Lowkey, still bugs me there's no Xenoblade Chronicles X music.

Never understood why that is.

 

[PeridotGX]

When Smash Ultimate speculation started, I was in middle school. Now I'm looking at colleges. 2018 - 2021 really doesn't seem that long on paper, but it's been a significant amount of time. And it's hard to think that this chapter is coming to a close, and the next round of speculation probably won't be until after I graduate from college.

 

[N3ON]

Lowkey, still bugs me there's no Xenoblade Chronicles X music.

Lowkey still bugs me there's no F-Zero GX character themes

 

[GalacticPetey]

Never understood why that is.

I assume weird rights issues.

 

[Technomage]

And we reach the end of another day. The closer we get, the harder it gets to wait to see it.

Well, since the final presentation takes place at 11 PM tomorrow, it's very likely that it won't show in my area until midnight the day after; so, might as well consider it 2 days left.

 

[Wunderwaft]

Final prediction: We're getting an FPS rep, whether it's Master Chief, Gordon Freeman, or Doom Slayer etc.

There ain't no stopping the hype for me now dudes.