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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

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Theguy123

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Question for you all. Do you reckon they’ll use the ballot results for all future games or do you reckon they’ll stop using it and just add who they want and who they think has popularity

or do you simply think that they’ll do another ballot that holds fresh results and then use that going forward.
 

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Question for you all. Do you reckon they’ll use the ballot results for all future games or do you reckon they’ll stop using it and just add who they want and who they think has popularity

or do you simply think that they’ll do another ballot that holds fresh results and then use that going forward.
I’m pretty sure the ballot during smash 4 implied for all future games

but doing another ballot after Ultimate’s DLC ends wouldn’t hurt
 

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I think the big issue with the Smash 4 ballot was that it was run at the same time as its dlc, leading people to believe they could influence the DLC as it happened

wasnt Bayonetta planned from the start and she just so happened to do well in the ballot especially in Europe?

if they do a ballot after dlc ends there’s more transparency
 
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A remastered Version of Quake has appeared on the Eshop because of Quakecon


I can't wait to get this in smash :4pacman:
meh it looks like they just downloaded fan models off the int-wait there's an exclusive episode? And Quake 64 content? On second thought count me in, just don't know how they DON'T expect 40 year old Quake veterans to not wipe the floor with that crossplay support.
 

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Has anyone ever compiled a list of all the current franchises in ultimate that have at least a playable character and then their franchise's "other merch" so to speak? So like

Mega Man has 1 character, 2 ATs, however many stages, tracks, spirits etc.

I know it's probably worthless info since content does not a good predictor make, but I'm just curious to see the info side by side. Once compiled, if I were to speculate based on the data it'd at least make for a cleaner argument rather than gut feeling.
Yes, thats easy:

Sonic - 1 fighter, 2 stages, 2 AT, 2 Mii Costumes (DLC), 20 tracks (1 remix, 19 original), 23 spirits
Metal Gear Solid - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 1 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 11 tracks (5 remixes, 6 original), 25 spirits
Megaman - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 2 AT, 4 Mii Costumes (DLC), 31 tracks (23 remixes, 8 original), 56 spirits
Pacman - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 1 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 11 tracks (6 remixes, 5 original), 5 spirits
Street Fighter - 2 fighters, 1 stage, 1 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 36 tracks (4 remixes, 32 originals), 37 spirits
Final Fantasy - 2 fighters, 2 stages, 0 AT, 3 Mii Costumes (DLC) 11 tracks (4 remixes, 7 original), 16 spirits
Bayonetta 1 fighter, 1 stage, 1 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 11 tracks (2 remixes, 9 original), 18 spirits
Castlevania - 2 fighters, 1 stage, 1 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 34 tracks (13 remixes, 21 originals), 28 spirits
Persona (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 4 Mii Costumes, 11 tracks (3 remixes, 8 originals), 14 spirits
Dragon Quest (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 4 Mii Costumes, 8 tracks (0 remix, 8 originals), 14 spirits
Banjo-Kazooie (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 10 tracks (7 remixes, 3 originals), 9 spirits
Fatal Fury (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 3 Mii Costumes, 50 tracks (18 remixes, 32 originals), 12 spirits
Minecraft (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 3 Mii Costumes, 7 tracks (6 remixes, 1 originals), 11 spirits
Tekken (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 1 Mii Costumes, 36 tracks (8 remixes, 24 originals), 13 spirits
 

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Has anyone ever compiled a list of all the current franchises in ultimate that have at least a playable character and then their franchise's "other merch" so to speak? So like

Mega Man has 1 character, 2 ATs, however many stages, tracks, spirits etc.

I know it's probably worthless info since content does not a good predictor make, but I'm just curious to see the info side by side. Once compiled, if I were to speculate based on the data it'd at least make for a cleaner argument rather than gut feeling.
Not gonna do it...not gonna do it...
  • Yoshi
    • Spirits: 24
    • Songs: 14
    • Stages: 4
    • Items: 0
    • Mii Costumes: 1
  • F-Zero
    • Spirits: 14 (One’s a Master Spirit)
    • Songs: 26
    • Stages: 3
    • Items: 0 (1 Assist Trophy)
    • Mii Costumes: 1
  • Ice Climber
    • Spirits: 3
    • Songs: 2
    • Stages: 1
    • Items: 0
    • Mii Costumes: 0
  • Game & Watch
    • Spirits: 13
    • Songs: 2
    • Stages: 1
    • Items: 0
    • Mii Costumes: 0
  • WarioWare
    • Spirits: 17
    • Songs: 8
    • Stages: 2
    • Items: 0 (1 Assist Trophy; yeah they removed Kat & Ana for some reason)
    • Mii Costumes: 2
  • Metal Gear
    • Spirits: 25
    • Songs: 9
    • Stages: 1
    • Items: 0 (1 Assist Trophy)
    • Mii Costumes: 0
  • Sonic the Hedgehog
    • Spirits: 22
    • Songs: 20
    • Stages: 2
    • Items: 0 (2 Assist Trophies)
    • Mii Costumes: 2
  • Pikmin
    • Spirits: 22 (One is a Master Spirit)
    • Songs: 14
    • Stages: 2
    • Items: 1 (1 Assist Trophy)
    • Mii Costumes: 0
  • R.O.B.
    • Spirits: 2
    • Songs: 1
    • Stages: 0
    • Items: 0
    • Mii Costumes: 0
  • Mega Man
    • Spirits: 56 (One is a Master Spirit)
    • Songs: 31
    • Stages: 1
    • Items: 0 (2 Assist Trophies)
    • Mii Costumes: 4
  • Wii Fit
    • Spirits: 9 (One is a Master Spirit)
    • Songs: 10
    • Stages: 1
    • Items: 0
    • Mii Costumes: 0
  • PUNCH-OUT!!
    • Spirits: 13 (One is a Master Spirit)
    • Songs: 5
    • Stages: 1
    • Items: 0
    • Mii Costumes: 0
  • PAC-Man
    • Spirits: 4
    • Songs: 11 (Though only three of them are actually from the PAC-Man series)
    • Stages: 1
    • Items: 0 (1 Assist Trophy)
    • Mii Costumes: 0
  • Duck Hunt
    • Spirits: 2 (This is what SmashWiki says but I could have sworn that there was a Ducks Spirit as well, which would make this 3)
    • Songs: 2
    • Stages: 1
    • Items: 0
    • Mii Costumes: 0
  • Bayonetta
    • Spirits: 17
    • Songs: 11
    • Stages: 1
    • Items: 0 (1 Assist Trophy)
    • Mii Costumes: 0
  • Splatoon
    • Spirits: 21
    • Songs: 26
    • Stages: 1
    • Items: 0 (1 Assist Trophy)
    • Mii Costumes: 5
Didn't do the DLC characters since I don't see much point.

EDIT: Kind of got :ultgreninja:'d but the other list is very different so it's fine.
EDIT EDIT: Added Mii Costumes because why not?
 
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We should at least have a Guile or Chun Li Mii (they’ll probably pick the former if the AT-to-Costume trend is an indication with Squid Sisters and Bomberman)

and FF7 deserves an AT. Maybe Tifa or Aerith

as for Tekken getting an AT, Alisa would be dope
 
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Yes, thats easy:

Sonic - 1 fighter, 2 stages, 2 AT, 2 Mii Costumes (DLC), 20 tracks (1 remix, 19 original), 23 spirits
Metal Gear Solid - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 1 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 11 tracks (5 remixes, 6 original), 25 spirits
Megaman - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 2 AT, 4 Mii Costumes (DLC), 31 tracks (23 remixes, 8 original), 56 spirits
Pacman - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 1 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 11 tracks (6 remixes, 5 original), 5 spirits
Street Fighter - 2 fighters, 1 stage, 1 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 36 tracks (4 remixes, 32 originals), 37 spirits
Final Fantasy - 2 fighters, 2 stages, 0 AT, 3 Mii Costumes (DLC) 11 tracks (4 remixes, 7 original), 16 spirits
Bayonetta 1 fighter, 1 stage, 1 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 11 tracks (2 remixes, 9 original), 18 spirits
Castlevania - 2 fighters, 1 stage, 1 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 34 tracks (13 remixes, 21 originals), 28 spirits
Persona (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 4 Mii Costumes, 11 tracks (3 remixes, 8 originals), 14 spirits
Dragon Quest (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 4 Mii Costumes, 8 tracks (0 remix, 8 originals), 14 spirits
Banjo-Kazooie (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 10 tracks (7 remixes, 3 originals), 9 spirits
Fatal Fury (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 3 Mii Costumes, 50 tracks (18 remixes, 32 originals), 12 spirits
Minecraft (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 3 Mii Costumes, 7 tracks (6 remixes, 1 originals), 11 spirits
Tekken (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 1 Mii Costumes, 36 tracks (8 remixes, 24 originals), 13 spirits
One correction, I would list Final Fantasy 7 because the other titles in the series have 0 representation in Smash. That is unique for the FF franchise vs. the other Franchises listed which generally have some content from multiple titles in their series.
 

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Kinda ironic how the third-party franchise with the least amount of content prior to DLC became the first third-party to get a second fully unique newcomer.

Meanwhile, the third-parties with arguably the most amount of content (Sonic and Mega Man) are sitting pretty at one character. Makes you wonder if the easiness of getting content from either franchise makes their characters less enticing than the ones from more expensive, difficult franchises and unrepresented ones.
 

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Oh and give us Short Rodin while you’re at it Mii Team :secretkpop:

id pop off for a Yuri Kozukata Mii tho I heckin love Fatal Frame 🥺
 
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We should at least have a Guile or Chun Li Mii (they’ll probably pick the former if the AT-to-Costume trend is an indication with Squid Sisters and Bomberman)

and FF7 deserves an AT. Maybe Tifa or Aerith

as for Tekken getting an AT, Alisa would be dope
ohh yeah, completely forgot that Squif sisters were assist trophy’s and a mii costume. Further more proof than AT’s can be promoted to playable and one could potentially be last
 

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Also an Alucard Mii is kind of a no brainer, surprised Castlevania has no Miis

esp since Alucard was once considered to be playable before choosing the Belmonts
 

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Kinda ironic how the third-party franchise with the least amount of content prior to DLC became the first third-party to get a second fully unique newcomer.

Meanwhile, the third-parties with arguably the most amount of content (Sonic and Mega Man) are sitting pretty at one character. Makes you wonder if the easiness of getting content from either franchise makes their characters less enticing than the ones from more expensive, difficult franchises and unrepresented ones.
For base rosters, I'd say no. I think it's only a matter of time before the bigger first parties start getting more characters more consistently, especially if they've been here a while.

For DLC, your guess is as good as mine.
 
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Question for you all. Do you reckon they’ll use the ballot results for all future games or do you reckon they’ll stop using it and just add who they want and who they think has popularity

or do you simply think that they’ll do another ballot that holds fresh results and then use that going forward.
Hell no, it's been 6 years and in the world of video game, that's insanely long. The fanbase has changed so much that many characters who'd be laughed off or never even be allowed to have support threads end up being seen as legitamare frontrunners, hell, characters who hadn't even existed back then are popular requests. And that's ignoring how people's runner up choices for another hypothetical ballot would still give wildly different results had we all been in an AU where we already got the likes of Ridley, K.Rool, Steve, Belmonts, Isabelle, Hero, etc. The ballot means **** all anymore and it's served it's purpose very well
 

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Yes, thats easy:

Sonic - 1 fighter, 2 stages, 2 AT, 2 Mii Costumes (DLC), 20 tracks (1 remix, 19 original), 23 spirits
Metal Gear Solid - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 1 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 11 tracks (5 remixes, 6 original), 25 spirits
Megaman - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 2 AT, 4 Mii Costumes (DLC), 31 tracks (23 remixes, 8 original), 56 spirits
Pacman - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 1 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 11 tracks (6 remixes, 5 original), 5 spirits
Street Fighter - 2 fighters, 1 stage, 1 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 36 tracks (4 remixes, 32 originals), 37 spirits
Final Fantasy - 2 fighters, 2 stages, 0 AT, 3 Mii Costumes (DLC) 11 tracks (4 remixes, 7 original), 16 spirits
Bayonetta 1 fighter, 1 stage, 1 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 11 tracks (2 remixes, 9 original), 18 spirits
Castlevania - 2 fighters, 1 stage, 1 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 34 tracks (13 remixes, 21 originals), 28 spirits
Persona (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 4 Mii Costumes, 11 tracks (3 remixes, 8 originals), 14 spirits
Dragon Quest (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 4 Mii Costumes, 8 tracks (0 remix, 8 originals), 14 spirits
Banjo-Kazooie (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 0 Mii Costumes, 10 tracks (7 remixes, 3 originals), 9 spirits
Fatal Fury (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 3 Mii Costumes, 50 tracks (18 remixes, 32 originals), 12 spirits
Minecraft (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 3 Mii Costumes, 7 tracks (6 remixes, 1 originals), 11 spirits
Tekken (DLC) - 1 fighter, 1 stage, 0 AT, 1 Mii Costumes, 36 tracks (8 remixes, 24 originals), 13 spirits
That's... awesome 😎 ty!

Not gonna do it...not gonna do it...

Yoshi
Spirits: 24
Songs: 14
Stages: 4
Items: 0
Mii Costumes: 1
F-Zero
Spirits: 14 (One’s a Master Spirit)
Songs: 26
Stages: 3
Items: 0 (1 Assist Trophy)
Mii Costumes: 1
Ice Climber
Spirits: 3
Songs: 2
Stages: 1
Items: 0
Mii Costumes: 0
Game & Watch
Spirits: 13
Songs: 2
Stages: 1
Items: 0
Mii Costumes: 0
WarioWare
Spirits: 17
Songs: 8
Stages: 2
Items: 0 (1 Assist Trophy; yeah they removed Kat & Ana for some reason)
Mii Costumes: 2
Metal Gear
Spirits: 25
Songs: 9
Stages: 1
Items: 0 (1 Assist Trophy)
Mii Costumes: 0
Sonic the Hedgehog
Spirits: 22
Songs: 20
Stages: 2
Items: 0 (2 Assist Trophies)
Mii Costumes: 2
Pikmin
Spirits: 22 (One is a Master Spirit)
Songs: 14
Stages: 2
Items: 1 (1 Assist Trophy)
Mii Costumes: 0
R.O.B.
Spirits: 2
Songs: 1
Stages: 0
Items: 0
Mii Costumes: 0
Mega Man
Spirits: 56 (One is a Master Spirit)
Songs: 31
Stages: 1
Items: 0 (2 Assist Trophies)
Mii Costumes: 4
Wii Fit
Spirits: 9 (One is a Master Spirit)
Songs: 10
Stages: 1
Items: 0
Mii Costumes: 0
PUNCH-OUT!!
Spirits: 13 (One is a Master Spirit)
Songs: 5
Stages: 1
Items: 0
Mii Costumes: 0
PAC-Man
Spirits: 4
Songs: 11 (Though only three of them are actually from the PAC-Man series)
Stages: 1
Items: 0 (1 Assist Trophy)
Mii Costumes: 0
Duck Hunt
Spirits: 2 (This is what SmashWiki says but I could have sworn that there was a Ducks Spirit as well, which would make this 3)
Songs: 2
Stages: 1
Items: 0
Mii Costumes: 0
Bayonetta
Spirits: 17
Songs: 11
Stages: 1
Items: 0 (1 Assist Trophy)
Mii Costumes: 0
Splatoon
Spirits: 21
Songs: 26
Stages: 1
Items: 0 (1 Assist Trophy)
Mii Costumes: 5

Didn't do the DLC characters since I don't see much point.



EDIT: Kind of got :ultgreninja:'d but the other list is very different so it's fine.

EDIT EDIT: Added Mii Costumes because why not?

Your list is great too! I can combine them...
 
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Haven't posted in a while, better fix that.

Question for you all. Do you reckon they’ll use the ballot results for all future games or do you reckon they’ll stop using it and just add who they want and who they think has popularity

or do you simply think that they’ll do another ballot that holds fresh results and then use that going forward.
Unfortunately, I believe the latter of the first paragraph already happened since Ultimate's release. Pretty much most of the DLC this time around save arguably Hero and Banjo fall under this category. I have a very hard time believing Joker and Terry were chosen due to the 2015 ballot, the former was just sprouting its wings and the latter was mainly popular in certain circles. And Byleth definitely wouldn't have topped the charts even if Three Houses had existed then. With Pass 2, it works even less. Only Steve seems remotely plausible, due to his game's prior cultural takeover and the then new deal with Microsoft and Nintendo. Like Byleth, Pyra/Mythra and Min-Min weren't even game characters at that point, with Sephiroth and IIRC Kazuya having little presence ballot-wise, due to character priorities within their own games.

I don't know if it's because of Nintendo's new policies or a genuine distancing from the last ballot's consequences, but I suspect the ballot of Smash 4 has long been buried. In some ways, this has advantages: the way they handled it was awful and stirred up the masses to irreversible measures. But I largely think the current lack of a second poll hasn't been useful overall, especially since Ultimate's DLC lineup mimics Smash 4's approach. It's pretty frustrating, since the base game was on the right track with its newcomers, but then ended too quickly.
 

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IF they did do a ballot for smash 6 who would be at the top?
I think Crash would probably win depending on if people give up on him or not when he doesn't make it into Smash Ultimate as DLC, If people really care about him as a request and not just a prediction for Smash Ultimate's DLC, he could be a big name going into Smash 6.
 
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Haven't posted in a while, better fix that.


Unfortunately, I believe the latter of the first paragraph already happened since Ultimate's release. Pretty much most of the DLC this time around save arguably Hero and Banjo fall under this category. I have a very hard time believing Joker and Terry were chosen due to the 2015 ballot, the former was just sprouting its wings and the latter was mainly popular in certain circles. And Byleth definitely wouldn't have topped the charts even if Three Houses had existed then. With Pass 2, it works even less. Only Steve seems remotely plausible, due to his game's prior cultural takeover and the then new deal with Microsoft and Nintendo. Like Byleth, Pyra/Mythra and Min-Min weren't even game characters at that point, with Sephiroth and IIRC Kazuya having little presence ballot-wise, due to character priorities within their own games.

I don't know if it's because of Nintendo's new policies or a genuine distancing from the last ballot's consequences, but I suspect the ballot of Smash 4 has long been buried. In some ways, this has advantages: the way they handled it was awful and stirred up the masses to irreversible measures. But I largely think the current lack of a second poll hasn't been useful overall, especially since Ultimate's DLC lineup mimics Smash 4's approach. It's pretty frustrating, since the base game was on the right track with its newcomers, but then ended too quickly.
In complete disagreement as a mexican on your comment about Terry. KOF has always been pretty beloved over here. There was a reason SNK expected good slaes from Mexico for KOF 14. I would imagine that could possibly be the case for the rest of latin american so I wouldnt be so sure about this assessment of Terry´s popularity.
 

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Kinda ironic how the third-party franchise with the least amount of content prior to DLC became the first third-party to get a second fully unique newcomer.

Meanwhile, the third-parties with arguably the most amount of content (Sonic and Mega Man) are sitting pretty at one character. Makes you wonder if the easiness of getting content from either franchise makes their characters less enticing than the ones from more expensive, difficult franchises and unrepresented ones.
I think it is more complicated than that. I think the first item that affects characters is how easy they are to implement. Ken and Richter were clones that were easy to implement.

Unique moveset plays a factor - Sephiroth

Desire of 3D Party - I think Square-Enix wanted Sephiroth in the game versus other IP they could have offered. Nintendo wanted Sephiroth as well.

Timing of the addition - Sonic and Megaman were earlier additions to the series and that might have played a part
 

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Theguy's just looking for any and everything they can find regardless of credibility
I’m not. I even said take this with a grain of salt since it’s 4chan. This isn’t even a leak for the final fighter. Just some info that apparently has happened which I found was interesting. I never usually believe 4chan leaks but it ain’t anything majorly huge and thought it was worth showing.
 

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I’m not. I even said take this with a grain of salt since it’s 4chan. This isn’t even a leak for the final fighter. Just some info that apparently has happened which I found was interesting. I never usually believe 4chan leaks but it ain’t anything majorly huge and thought it was worth showing.
Ok, but my point is that it's easy to say something like that and then attach a fake story like "someone from namco slipped up" to make it more believable. I could go on 4Chan and say the same thing. It's very unlikely that anybody actually knows what's coming to Smash, even things like this, it's kept so secret.
 

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My opinion on this has always been that Ultimate kinda marks the end of the road for the majority of these long standing character requests like K. Rool, Ridley, Banjo, Isaac, Geno, etc. Like if those latter two characters couldn't get into the "ultimate Smash Bros.", the one that went ahead and fulfilled many long time dream picks, then I feel the door has been closed for them period, especially since they'll be even more old and irrelevant by the time the next Smash hits, and now they'll potentially have to compete with a whole bunch of popular veterans if the next game really does have a bunch of cuts. I would of felt the same way about Banjo & Kazooie had they not made it.

We'll obviously get more characters that are generally popular like Sephiroth, but personally I kinda do feel that Banjo & Kazooie may very well be the last "people's choice" character we get in Smash. A character thrown in to directly appease the core fanbase, I mean.
 
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Ok, but my point is that it's easy to say something like that and then attach a fake story like "someone from namco slipped up" to make it more believable. I could go on 4Chan and say the same thing. It's very unlikely that anybody actually knows what's coming to Smash, even things like this, it's kept so secret.
agreed which is why I said take it with a grain of salt like every other 4chan leak that spews such awful nonsense. Just thought it was interesting enough to show.
 

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Is the implication that Nightmare is getting a mii or spirit event?

That’s definitely a possibility given Tekken getting a rep
I think Mii or Spirit, yes

though:

1. Who’s Sarah?
2. The other person is about as reliable a “leaker” as Zippo. Which is to say, not in the slightest.
 

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A character thrown in to directly appease the core fanbase, I mean.
I really dislike this mentality as it implies Banjo is the only DLC which has core fans in mind when people lost their ****ing minds about FF only getting 2 songs, easily the biggest complaint about anything involving the game, Hero was a massive core pick for Japan and people couldn't stand how Xenoblade didn't get a second character. Just because a bunch of core fans refuse to move on doesn't mean their wants define the entire core fanbase
 

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I have never been to 4chan. I never will. I feel as if its very essence would somehow transfer some of itself onto me like a sentient slime or something and cause me to loose my mind.

Of course I'm still a member of gamefaqs so I guess my hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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In complete disagreement as a mexican on your comment about Terry. KOF has always been pretty beloved over here. There was a reason SNK expected good slaes from Mexico for KOF 14. I would imagine that could possibly be the case for the rest of latin american so I wouldnt be so sure about this assessment of Terry´s popularity.
My apologies, I should've specified. I didn't mean any of these characters had no support, I more question the authenticity of these DLC choices completely catering to a poll that was held in 2015.

And to be fair, the ballot was originally proposed as a suggestion box. Granted, Bayonetta screwed that line over by being proclaimed the "ballot winner." However, by this logic, if Nintendo really considered your character out of fan feedback, then more power to you. I just kinda feel like there were more factors surrounding Terry that caused him to get in than just scoring well for the ballot. Many other votes for characters with similar popularity cycles went largely unaccounted for.
 

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Quake is out now for every console and PC with cross play
You also get Bethesda's new version for free if you already own Quake 1 on Steam. I do, and I...can't play Quake 64 because of the awful CRT filter they forced on it.
 
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