Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Mushroomguy12]

Reggie AMA tomorrow 8/3 at 9 PM EST.

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[N3ON]

Reggie AMA tomorrow 8/3 at 9 PM EST.

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Bets on how many questions in until he's asked about Mother 3

 

[Perkilator]

Bets on how many questions in until he's asked about Mother 3

Either zero or one. You know how the internet is.

 

[The Rhythm Theif]

Either zero or one. You know how the internet is.

Oh, trust me... I've been in that part of the undernet before...

 

[Guynamednelson]

Bets on how many questions in until he's asked about Mother 3

Negative 8.

 

[DarthEnderX]

I’m aware of that but there is also no rule saying Smash can only have characters and content from canon games. I’d love to see lot more from spinoff games. Besides, HW Impa looks to be largely inspired by her Skyward Sword design, which is canon.

Ironically, both of the HW Impas are the two best Impas. I'd be fine with either, and wouldn't mind get HW2 as a Sheik echo. But I'd prefer HW1.

Gives me somewhat of a Silver Surfer vibe

In practice, Twelve is more like Venom.

if Smash had kept itself only to Nintendo owned Characters, what do you think the Difference would be in terms of Sales?

Less.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Hero is still apart of a long running and historical franchise. They just made Luminary the default skin for promotional purposes with DQ11S.

The fact that they went back and changed Hero's placement in All-Star to DQ3's release date tells me that they really wanted Erdrick to be the default skin.

They changed it to Dragon Quest 1's release date, actually.

Erdrick is however still the chronologically earliest Hero among the alts, but it doesn't mean anything within the context you gave. Sakurai probably did want that, though, being he's a huge fan of 3. But there's no legitimate evidence towards it beyond at most Erdrick being chosen for a Spirit Event some time later, and Erdrick quickly taking over the Trailer. However, he was intended to be one of the two alts regardless(SE suggested having more than two alts), so both of those may be just coincidences too. Either way, Luminary and 11 has a bit more content than the rest(the stage, the Kirby Hat, obviously the core Hero of the reveal part, first hero in the alt lineup).

Ironically despite that date matching the original DQ1, the only way to play as that Hero is a Mii costume. And they aren't part of that mode, so.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

They changed it to Dragon Quest 1's release date, actually.

No, he's between Mega Man and Daisy now, which means it's referencing DQ3.

If it were referencing DQ1, then he'd be between Zelda and Samus.

 

[SneakyLink]

They changed it to Dragon Quest 1's release date, actually.

Erdrick is however still the chronologically earliest Hero among the alts, but it doesn't mean anything within the context you gave. Sakurai probably did want that, though, being he's a huge fan of 3. But there's no legitimate evidence towards it beyond at most Erdrick being chosen for a Spirit Event some time later, and Erdrick quickly taking over the Trailer. However, he was intended to be one of the two alts regardless(SE suggested having more than two alts), so both of those may be just coincidences too. Either way, Luminary and 11 has a bit more content than the rest(the stage, the Kirby Hat, obviously the core Hero of the reveal part, first hero in the alt lineup).

Ironically despite that date matching the original DQ1, the only way to play as that Hero is a Mii costume. And they aren't part of that mode, so.

Thinking about the release date change, I wonder if this is why Hero got excluded from the 2010s tourney.

For context, he was excluded from every other tourney because of the default being Luminary, but was also excluded from the 2010 tourney, maybe because Smash now classifies Hero as a 80s character?

Other characters with alts that debuted in different decades such as Alph or the Koopalings were permitted to play in their original character's decade tourney.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Oh.
Well I didn't expect that

Nor should you. It's ridiculous.

Blackmail? really? That is not how any of this works.

The scenario described is more bribery than it is blackmail(EA is being offered something to cooperate, not being threatened if they don't).

Either way, it's still BS.

We've been speculating Nahobino yet some of us are like "Apex is too new".

Probably, ya know, not the same people.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

No, he's between Mega Man and Daisy now, which means it's referencing DQ3.

If it were referencing DQ1, then he'd be between Zelda and Samus.

When I was looking up dates due to reading that, I misread something. My bad.

Thinking about the release date change, I wonder if this is why Hero got excluded from the 2010s tourney.

For context, he was excluded from every other tourney because of the default being Luminary, but was also excluded from the 2010 tourney, maybe because Smash now classifies Hero as a 80s character?

Other characters with alts that debuted in different decades such as Alph or the Koopalings were permitted to play in their original character's decade tourney.

That's probably it. While the date is odd to change, it's still the chronological first Hero among the alts, so him representing the mode makes enough sense. That said, I don't think it actually means a thing either. In the case of Olimar, my guess is cause he's the original Captain. The Koopalings were lucky alts, but the main character is supposed to be Bowser Jr. Hero is just named after the Class, not the specific character, so it's possible it's just an exception to how they do it. That said, bias easily could be at work too. I don't think it's the case, mind you, but it's hardly impossible.

Also, it's a third party thing, so maybe they already intended to change it after DQ11 had its sales for a while. Mainly to throw more advertisement towards 3. Could've been some deal in general even. There's a few possibilities, really, why it's a unique change.

 

[The Rhythm Theif]

So we're just going to ignore the fact that we have 8 more pages to go so I can grace this entire discussion board with something beautiful?

 

[Theguy123]

This has been up on 4chan for probabaly at least 10 minutes or so judging by the amount of comments. Any way of debunking this. https://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/565996313

could be a fan made character for all I know since I don’t know who this character is so if it’s fanmade then sorry in advance

 

[Dan Quixote]

It's a shame Smash is starting to pass over the DQXI hero in favor of the DQIII hero considering DQXI is one of the greatest RPGs ever made

 

[FreeFox]

we basically have way too many theory’s and coincidences lining up which is making speculation get out of hand and becoming boring and awful to the point where people just want it to end. These are theories and coincidences We currently have

fixing the base roster theory
parallel theory
40 names list leak
Mute theory
M theory
Crowd cheer theory
Sephiroth’s trailer
Tournament theories

And those are just theories and/or coincidences that I can think of off the top of my head. People at this point just want the speculation to end because of how ridiculous things are becoming

Didn’t even mention the rapper mario leak which has some debate going for it but I think most have come to the conclusion that it’s fake because of how vague it is.

You forgot thirst theory. The best one of the bunch.

So we're just going to ignore the fact that we have 8 more pages to go so I can grace this entire discussion board with something beautiful?

I cant hardly wait.

 

[SneakyLink]

This has been up on 4chan for probabaly at least 10 minutes or so judging by the amount of comments. Any way of debunking this. https://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/565996313

For those curious... the post says "December". I'm guessing that's when they think the release is.

Also the OP (or someone with the same pfp) says it's Bill Cosby so it is a false alarm.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

So we're just going to ignore the fact that we have 8 more pages to go so I can grace this entire discussion board with something beautiful?

Should we be concerned?

 

[Theguy123]

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For those curious... the text says "December".

Also the OP (or someone with the same pfp) says it's Bill Cosby so it is a false alarm.

I was referring to the image they attached. It seemed to be a WOL continuation. Wasn’t referring the date. The picture they attached

 

[FreeFox]

This has been up on 4chan for probabaly at least 10 minutes or so judging by the amount of comments. Any way of debunking this. https://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/565996313

could be a fan made character for all I know since I don’t know who this character is so if it’s fanmade then sorry in advance

Who is that? Batman?

 

[SneakyLink]

O


I was referring to the image they attached. It seemed to be a WOL continuation. Wasn’t referring the date. The picture they attached

It looks like General Grevious (or someone else, it looks like General Grevious to me) so I'm leaning towards it being fake.

 

[Theguy123]

Who is that? Batman?

don’t have a clue. From what I got from the comments, it seemed to be someone from a game called paladins

 

[FreeFox]

It looks like General Grevious (or someone else, it looks like General Grevious to me) so I'm leaning towards it being fake.

don’t have a clue. From what I got from the comments, it seemed to be someone from a game called paladins

Is paladins popular?

Whatever the case. I am happy to see an image leak.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Bets on how many questions in until he's asked about Mother 3

Probably 90% because people dont know when a joke stops being funny

 

[SneakyLink]

don’t have a clue. From what I got from the comments, it seemed to be someone from a game called paladins

Looking up characters real quick shows me that the character is Androxus.

Spoiler: This is Androxus

Androxus seems to be a gun using character who rewards accurate shooting with increased Melee power.

 

[FreeFox]

Looking up characters real quick shows me that the character is Androxus.

Spoiler: This is Androxus

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Androxus seems to be a gun using character who rewards accurate shooting with increased Melee power.

That looks like discount Reaper from Overwatch.

Spoiler

 

[DarthEnderX]

I was referring to the image they attached. It seemed to be a WOL continuation. Wasn’t referring the date. The picture they attached

Can you just link the pic? I don't 4chan.

 

[Lyncario]

This has been up on 4chan for probabaly at least 10 minutes or so judging by the amount of comments. Any way of debunking this. https://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/565996313

could be a fan made character for all I know since I don’t know who this character is so if it’s fanmade then sorry in advance

For some reason this looks like Genji from Overwatch to me.

 

[Gengar84]

Looking up characters real quick shows me that the character is Androxus.

Spoiler: This is Androxus

View attachment 325110

Androxus seems to be a gun using character who rewards accurate shooting with increased Melee power.

I have no idea who that is but he looks cool so I’d have no complaints if he got in.

 

[SKX31]

Who’s IceFrog?

Main developer behind Dota (2) since 2005 - he's very much an interesting compare / contrast with Sakurai since the two devs are quite alike.

On one hand, both guys play all sorts of games and has let that influence their view of games: We all know with Sakurai, while IceFrog is happy to sneak in all kinds of references into Dota. One hero is even directly based on FFX's Kimahri Ronso (both looks and weapon), just heavily retooled from a Dragoon into an illusion printer. They're both also very much dedicated with their main games.

On the other, Sakurai revealed himself pretty early on, IceFrog stayed anonymous to the point no one else figured out what his name was until a 2017 court document disclosed it. Sakurai's also taken time off to focus on other games like KI Uprising - IceFrog has exclusively spent his working career focusing on Dota.

Of course, one can certainly pull this kind of compare / contrast with any developer (comparing Sakurai with Harada or Kojima, for example) and that is never going to be a perfect comparision, but certainly fun food for thought.

This has been up on 4chan for probabaly at least 10 minutes or so judging by the amount of comments. Any way of debunking this. https://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/565996313

could be a fan made character for all I know since I don’t know who this character is so if it’s fanmade then sorry in advance

Yeah I'm feeling confident in calling this fake since chances are that they took a standard render of Androxus and slapped it in front of Dharkron.

Is paladins popular?

Whatever the case. I am happy to see an image leak.

Not exceptionally popular from what I know, there was some noise around it a couple years back. Still has an active playerbase: it routinely has a 10K concurrent on Steam, and PlayerCounter estimates a ca. 20K concurrent playercount in total, with the biggest share coming from Brazil.

Going to tag 3BitSaurus for confirmation here.

Looking up characters real quick shows me that the character is Androxus.

Androxus seems to be a gun using character who rewards accurate shooting with increased Melee power.

For some reason this looks like Genji from Overwatch to me.

He does have the Genji dash + Reaper's revolver, but also a punch skill that can hit multiple targets and an absorber / reflector skill. His ultimate also mutates the revolver and gives it explosive rounds + gives him flight for 4 sec.

So yeah on both.

 

[Lyncario]

I'm pretty positive that the Darkhon image used in the fake leak comes from the begining of Hero's trailer except it's zoomed in and slightly tilted

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Reaper

Would

Be

Based

 

[Shroob]

......Budget Overwatch?


Now I've seen everything.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

......Budget Overwatch?


Now I've seen everything.

Enlightenment, my guy

 

[cashregister9]

The leak is fake because of that Dharkon but Paladins could bring some unqiue characters like...

Evie

Moji

or My Personal Favorite character, Imani

I've played Paladins almost as long as I've played Overwatch and this is like the first time I can bring it up in speculation

 

[chocolatejr9]

The leak is fake because of that Dharkon but Paladins could bring some unqiue characters like...

Evie

Moji

or My Personal Favorite character, Imani

I've played Paladins almost as long as I've played Overwatch and this is like the first time I can bring it up in speculation

Why does it remind me of Battleborn?

That game had a penguin in a mech, so it was at least 5x better than Overwatch ever was...

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Is that figure a LoL champion?

 

[Slime Master]

It's a shame Smash is starting to pass over the DQXI hero in favor of the DQIII hero considering DQXI is one of the greatest RPGs ever made

You just described every DQ though

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Bets on how many questions in until he's asked about Mother 3

Oh he’s well aware. That’s why he’s been stockpiling a large collection of Fire Flowers from his homemade garden. They even have the ability to send fireballs through the internet and through computer/phone screens.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Oh he’s well aware. That’s why he’s been stockpiling a large collection of Fire Flowers from his homemade garden. They even have the ability to send fireballs through the internet and through computer/phone screens.

But what about Star Fox?

 

[Mushroomguy12]

But what about Star Fox?

Lasers you into oblivion