Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Swamp Sensei]

Do people like the 1 player modes in Ultimate? I loved that coin launcher game .... Heck even SSE was fun to play through sometimes....

I love spirits in general.

WoL is better than SSE imo.

Classic is pretty rad.

They ruined All Star.

It's... nice.

 

[epicmartin7]

yo

that is all

I guess I should give some context...

Spoiler

This isn't just a mockup...

this is going to be a full in-game modded moveset

 

[kylexv]

Pic of the Day:

pic.twitter.com/3K3wAqex3b

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) July 28, 2021

 

[7NATOR]

People already mentioned the talk of Bonus fighters being detrimental to the leak due to the Statements from Sakurai saying otherwise, with that out of the way, other thoughts

-For the Statement seeming to Implicate Pyra/Mythra, one of the things that's interesting is that this person said that people would be angry at "Their" Inclusion, which if you look at it a certain way, could say they knew the Character would be multiple

Though to be honest, saying this character is more low-key and perhaps gonna get some people angry is not the hardest thing in the world, as this character would have been more low-key if they are before E3, and just in General Nintendo Direct

-For the Statement seeming to Implicate Kazuya, I do agree that this statement fits way more for Sonic than it does Tekken. Heihachi did get discussion during Base game, but he was way more popular as a suggestion for DLC, and I think if this person said this series would be DLC or something like that, this statement would be more impressive

-Getting the Dante Mii Costume right is pretty good, though to be honest, it's not as impressive here considering that this person is thinking Another Capcom character is coming as playable. If you think a Capcom Character that's not Dante is gonna get in Instead, of course you suspect Dante would be a Mii. I've even seen people that didn't even think we get a Capcom character throw around the idea of a Dante Mii Costume


-One of the things not Implicated here is the Presence of Bethesda (Again), and Wayforward, since they got costumes in Kazuya Mii Pack.

-The Waluigi statement is interesting, only because this isn't the first time someone said Waluigi would be Last. Paragon also did say this is what he heard when he heard discussions of Waluigi. the reason he said Waluigi was Last in FP1, because Paragon didn't know of FP2, so assumed FP1 be it

I think this leak is interesting, but considering Sakurai has made the strong statement about Development on Ultimate ending after this Fighter Pass, I can't buy that it the realistic leak out there

I don't doubt that there could be talks already ongoing for the future of Smash, since I think if Nintendo wants to continue on the path of crossing over with many 3rd parties and franchises, they need to start discussions Now (sooner rather than later). still at his word, Development is supposed to end. One thing I could maybe see is perhaps they take a gap break so Development isn't continuous, or they outsource the rest of Development to a different team not associated with Sakurai, though I heavily doubt that


On Phoenix Wright though, I will say that there could be hints suggesting he'd be in. Perhaps the biggest thing is the Cloud Cross Slash glitch that appeared in this patch, since that's the only move that uses some sort of Kanji Symbol, which to be honest I only see Phoenix Wright using for his Speech bubbles and stuff

 

[kylexv]

I was on computer eating chip when phone ring
"Dr. Mario World is kill"

End of service notice: The Dr. Mario World game's service will end on Oct. 31, 2021. Thank you very much to the players who have supported the game. For details, please check this link: https://t.co/fC5qnRnLFD

— Dr. Mario World (@Drmarioworld_EN) July 28, 2021

 

[GilTheGreat19]

yo

that is all

Go on...

 

[FreeFox]

On Phoenix Wright though, I will say that there could be hints suggesting he'd be in. Perhaps the biggest thing is the Cloud Cross Slash glitch that appeared in this patch, since that's the only move that uses some sort of Kanji Symbol, which to be honest I only see Phoenix Wright using for his Speech bubbles and stuff

Ooh... I havent heard about this. Are the any vids?

 

[N3ON]

Throw enough **** at the wall and you're bound to be right twice a day.

...wait.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Throw enough **** at the wall and you're bound to be right twice a day.

...wait.

Post is so sticky I’d think it’d break the clock.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I was on computer eating chip when phone ring
"Dr. Mario World is kill"

End of service notice: The Dr. Mario World game's service will end on Oct. 31, 2021. Thank you very much to the players who have supported the game. For details, please check this link: https://t.co/fC5qnRnLFD

— Dr. Mario World (@Drmarioworld_EN) July 28, 2021

Probably the reason why.

 

[7NATOR]

Ooh... I havent heard about this. Are the any vids?

This was originally posted by Merengue on the Phoenix thread here

TAKE THAT! Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney smashes the prosecution! | Page 196 | Smashboards

I don't know if there is a Video that showcases whole glitch, but in any case, here you go

Cloud didn't get touched in the Patch that came with Kazuya

 

[FreeFox]

Probably the reason why.

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My guess is that Dr Goomba Tower is responsible for most of the money.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Probably the reason why.

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Its so weird that a game raking in over 4 Mil is considered small. Mobile gaming is wild.

 

[Arctiq]

Ooh... I havent heard about this. Are the any vids?

Here's a video of it, doesn't show it being performed but it is real.

UMM guys?????
I... think i may have broke cloud
LOOL pic.twitter.com/UUscNVzVp8

— Icey🔥🔥 (@Icey_FGC) June 30, 2021

Edit: Also is that clicking coming from the game?? I can't really tell

 

[Guynamednelson]

Its so weird that a game raking in over 4 Mil is considered small. Mobile gaming is wild.

I mean that's just small in general, a $60 game should rake in, well, 60 million from selling just 1 million copies.

 

[Perkilator]

Its so weird that a game raking in over 4 Mil is considered small. Mobile gaming is wild.

When you compare it to even Dragalia Lost…yeah, that’s pretty small.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I was on computer eating chip when phone ring
"Dr. Mario World is kill"

No

Throw enough **** at the wall and you're bound to be right twice a day.

...wait.

I tried this, but now my wall kind of stinks...

 

[Merengue]

I love spirits in general.

WoL is better than SSE imo.

Classic is pretty rad.

They ruined All Star.

It's... nice.

They ruined Porky with the spirits and created confusion

 

[Swamp Sensei]

They ruined Porky with the spirits and created confusion

How on earth did they ruin Porky?

He's not in the game. How can they possibly ruin them?

 

[Merengue]

How on earth did they ruin Porky?

He's not in the game. How can they possibly ruin them?

I just think that the Absolutely Safe Capsule was an awkward spirit to "represent" him. I don't know if it's actually him or not since the smash team never addressed his situation.

 

[pupNapoleon]

You're probably right on that one.
Then again, this particular render has become quite popular

I think gamers would know him- but it is certainly no Steve/ "Minecraft Guy"

I guess I should give some context...

Spoiler

This isn't just a mockup...

this is going to be a full in-game modded moveset

Is this a Tamagatchi?

-For the Statement seeming to Implicate Pyra/Mythra, one of the things that's interesting is that this person said that people would be angry at "Their" Inclusion, which if you look at it a certain way, could say they knew the Character would be multiple

Grammatically- if he was using "their" as a pluralization, then he would have said, "their inclusion*s*." Not that grammar need be a part of leaks.

And grammar is definitely absent, since this person says "their is a bonus fighter in Zelda," then, There is another extra after Zelda who is definitively the 'final,' then that after the final we have the "first character" after pass two....but that there is no third pass.

So- we have two bonus fighters, the latter is the final final, but we have another potential, who is neither the end of the previous nor the start of the next, but also isn't a single character pass, because it isn't bonus. In other words, it exists but doesn't exist.

In short- all of those characters could happen, and this person would still be wrong.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Is this a Tamagatchi?

No, it's the Chrome Dinosaur. It's game is the only thing that Google Chrome can do if you don't have an internet connection.

 

[pupNapoleon]

I was on computer eating chip when phone ring
"Dr. Mario World is kill"

End of service notice: The Dr. Mario World game's service will end on Oct. 31, 2021. Thank you very much to the players who have supported the game. For details, please check this link: https://t.co/fC5qnRnLFD

— Dr. Mario World (@Drmarioworld_EN) July 28, 2021

Um... but they havn't even given us Dr King Boo yet!
Or...have they?
I think my new title will now be "Doctor King Pup Napoleon" the action figure.


QUESTION: Seriously why don't we have a Dr Mario stage? And why do we have the Nintendog stage with falling objects, as if they were the tetris blocks/pills?

No, it's the Chrome Dinosaur. It's game is the only thing that Google Chrome can do if you don't have an internet connection.

I stan Clippy.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

And why do we have the Nintendog stage with falling objects, as if they were the tetris blocks/pills?

I mean.

In Nintendogs, items magically appear into existence.

It really fits.

 

[pupNapoleon]

I mean.

In Nintendogs, items magically appear into existence.

It really fits.

Is that really a main component of Nintendogs?
I don't recall actually playing it- but it seems like an incredibly minor detail to make the central gimmick of a stage.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

QUESTION: Seriously why don't we have a Dr Mario stage?

Well if we're gleaning the right information from data mines, they tried to add one in the previous game, but it didn't work out for whatever reason.

Is that really a main component of Nintendogs?
I don't recall actually playing it- but it seems like an incredibly minor detail to make the central gimmick of a stage.

IIRC it's the main to interact with your pet in the living room aside from petting them. There are other activities that you can do but they would make nintendogs a traveling stage, which would be a tad odd since the locations themselves don't really matter so much as the activities you do in them; The pet is always the main focus.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Is that really a main component of Nintendogs?
I don't recall actually playing it- but it seems like an incredibly minor detail to make the central gimmick of a stage.

When you pull an item out of your bag, they just kinda... appear on the screen.

You can then drop it, hold it, throw it, play tug of war.

Scare your dog with a Mario Kart if you're mean...

 

[perfectchaos83]

I mean that's just small in general, a $60 game should rake in, well, 60 million from selling just 1 million copies.

That's not quite how it works. Nintendo nor any other publisher is making $60 for each game sold as Nintendo doesn't sell it to retailers at that price and if they did, we sure as **** wouldn't be paying $60 for them.

 

[pupNapoleon]

When you pull an item out of your bag, they just kinda... appear on the screen.

You can then drop it, hold it, throw it, play tug of war.

Scare your dog with a Mario Kart if you're mean...

Still seems like it isn't a defining enough factor for it to be the gimmick of the stage.
I mean, I'd much rather just have dozens of cute animals in the background to distract me.
Or like.... have catnip and tennis balls fly around.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Going back to an earlier topic, a GAA spirit event would kill Nick in my eyes as he and Ryunosuke are perfect alt material due to similar quirks, personalities and animations, not to mention Nick would clearly bring GAA content with him if he were playable

 

[MattX20]

Okay, the event's been posted https://www-aaaba-lp1-hac.cdn.nintendo.net/en-US/ba570fa0/index.html? . The number of the tournament is 4051

 

[Mamboo07]

I mean... I'm not sure on this last part.
I don't think Jonesy is all that unique of a design.

People say he would just be Steve because building stuff but with guns.

 

[Theguy123]

People already mentioned the talk of Bonus fighters being detrimental to the leak due to the Statements from Sakurai saying otherwise, with that out of the way, other thoughts

-For the Statement seeming to Implicate Pyra/Mythra, one of the things that's interesting is that this person said that people would be angry at "Their" Inclusion, which if you look at it a certain way, could say they knew the Character would be multiple

Though to be honest, saying this character is more low-key and perhaps gonna get some people angry is not the hardest thing in the world, as this character would have been more low-key if they are before E3, and just in General Nintendo Direct

-For the Statement seeming to Implicate Kazuya, I do agree that this statement fits way more for Sonic than it does Tekken. Heihachi did get discussion during Base game, but he was way more popular as a suggestion for DLC, and I think if this person said this series would be DLC or something like that, this statement would be more impressive

-Getting the Dante Mii Costume right is pretty good, though to be honest, it's not as impressive here considering that this person is thinking Another Capcom character is coming as playable. If you think a Capcom Character that's not Dante is gonna get in Instead, of course you suspect Dante would be a Mii. I've even seen people that didn't even think we get a Capcom character throw around the idea of a Dante Mii Costume


-One of the things not Implicated here is the Presence of Bethesda (Again), and Wayforward, since they got costumes in Kazuya Mii Pack.

-The Waluigi statement is interesting, only because this isn't the first time someone said Waluigi would be Last. Paragon also did say this is what he heard when he heard discussions of Waluigi. the reason he said Waluigi was Last in FP1, because Paragon didn't know of FP2, so assumed FP1 be it

I think this leak is interesting, but considering Sakurai has made the strong statement about Development on Ultimate ending after this Fighter Pass, I can't buy that it the realistic leak out there

I don't doubt that there could be talks already ongoing for the future of Smash, since I think if Nintendo wants to continue on the path of crossing over with many 3rd parties and franchises, they need to start discussions Now (sooner rather than later). still at his word, Development is supposed to end. One thing I could maybe see is perhaps they take a gap break so Development isn't continuous, or they outsource the rest of Development to a different team not associated with Sakurai, though I heavily doubt that


On Phoenix Wright though, I will say that there could be hints suggesting he'd be in. Perhaps the biggest thing is the Cloud Cross Slash glitch that appeared in this patch, since that's the only move that uses some sort of Kanji Symbol, which to be honest I only see Phoenix Wright using for his Speech bubbles and stuff

i thought the clouds glitch had been debunked. Apparently it’s been there for ages and had just never been fixed.

 

[MattX20]

With today's confirmation of the number 4051 for this week's tournament, a quick refresher for everyone about the missing events. Currently, there are two spirit events unaccounted for that going chronologically: 1019 and 1035 both would've occurred in 2019. As for our missing tournament event, 4029, that one would've taken place sometime last year.

 

[Theguy123]

With today's confirmation of the number 4051 for this week's tournament, a quick refresher for everyone about the missing events. Currently, there are two spirit events unaccounted for that going chronologically: 1019 and 1035 both would've occurred in 2019. As for our missing tournament event, 4029, that one would've taken place sometime last year.

do we know where abouts the tournament event would’ve taken Place. Would it of taken place around Steve, would it have taken place around Sephiroth or inbetween the both etc

 

[Gengar84]

If we somehow got a Disgaea character for the last DLC, I think Etna might actually be a better rep than Laharl. While Laharl is the main character, Etna is almost as important, showing up in every game he does. She has even appeared as a crossover guest over Laharl in Trinity Universe. The main reason though is that she would heavily use Prinnies in her moveset. Prinnies are basically the mascots of Disgaea, much like Slimes to Dragon Quest so it makes sense to go with a character that uses them in their moveset.

 

[3BitSaurus]

To get the achievement of WoL, you have to restart everything. Really unfortunate. I had to play it twice just because of that. XD

Still don't get why they don't just leave the Spirit marked as "completed" but let you revisit them. Y'know, like Mario, Kirby and several others all do.

If you’re interested, I made a mini-creation thread for Smash Run enemy ideas.

Nice. If anything, I'd have loved more enemies from the third party franchises (though I get that the DLC fighters would still not get any) and maybe some more Kirby sub bosses and Wario Land enemies. That would be a good start.

 

[Perkilator]

Still don't get why they don't just leave the Spirit marked as "completed" but let you revisit them. Y'know, like Mario, Kirby and several others all do.

At least we got the Spirit Rematch feature in Min Min's update.

That said, I do kinda wish we got this for Joker's update.

 

[3BitSaurus]

At least we got the Spirit Rematch feature in Min Min's update.

That said, I do kinda wish we got this for Joker's update.

We still can't rematch bosses, though.

At this poin I just have to wonder if there's some reason for it - like if the Boss fights are somehow not accessible through the regular menus or something, which would force the to rework systems.

...Cuz let me tell you, if they're not doing it just because they don't want players to have several of the Boss Spirits... that's dumb as ****. The systems are literally there, and it would harm no one to fight bosses whenever they want to.

 

[Perkilator]

We still can't rematch bosses, though.

At this poin I just have to wonder if there's some reason for it - like if the Boss fights are somehow not accessible through the regular menus or something, which would force the to rework systems.

...Cuz let me tell you, if they're not doing it just because they don't want players to have several of the Boss Spirits... that's dumb as ****. The systems are literally there, and it would harm no one to fight bosses whenever they want to.

Yeah, I should've mentioned that as well; I don't get why there's no Boss Battles mode if we can't rematch the boss spirits.