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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

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This is where I predict Phoenix meets his end. The new AA is out. If there was a time to ace him, it’d be now. I don’t want it to be true. But if it must happen, it must happen.
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This might be an unpopular opinion but if AA is not getting a character, I would love that the series at least receive some acknowledgement in Smash whether is a spirit or a mii or music. The removal of Isaac and GS music from smash 4 was one of my worst smash moments ever. I totally agree, its better if a character gets in as a playable fighter but I dont think there is anything worse for a series to be completely ignored from the gaming celebration that is smash bros.
 
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FreeFox said:
This might be an unpopular opinion but if AA is not getting a character, I would love that the series at least receive some acknowledgement in Smash whether is a spirit or a mii or music. The removal of Isaac and GS music from smash 4 was one of my worst smash moments ever. I totally agree, its better if a character gets in as a playable fighter but I dont think there is anything worse for a series to be completely ignored from the gaming celebration that is smash bros.
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Oh yeah, if we aren’t getting Phoenix as playable, I’ll definitely take some spirits.
 
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Theguy123 said:
So what specific moveset, characters or franchise do we reckons getting deconfirmed in this next event. You get my total respect for eternity if you call the right answer
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What I will say is that if we get a Spirit event, this would actually be the first time we got a Spirit event 3 weeks in a row (I Assume the first time)

TWENY and Ace Attorney seem like good candidates to get Spirit events though. I think if one were to get an Spirit event, I would actually say Ace Attorney personally, especially since the Collection coming out is games that have existed before, so it's easier to base events off of known characters than something new like TWENY Neo. Of course Depending on if Phoenix or Neku were playable, changes the answer

That or we likely just get a Tournament. I'm going to guess and say if we get Tournament, it be Sword Tournament
 
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There's one thing that everyone should take into account here regarding tonight's event reveal on the Japanese Smash Twitter. If it turns out to be a spirit event, it'll be the first time ever to have 3 events of the same type for 3 weeks in a row. It would definitely shake speculation up a little
 
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Right, but you can't generalize that to every gamer everywhere.

I know that I personally am not very interested in mainline SMT titles primarily because of the dull post-apocalyptic setting and general lack of life.
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That is literally just Nocturne. Nocturne is all about the gameplay and embracing the weirdness, the isolation and the darkness(there aren’t really any happy endings that make sense so it canonically just goes even darker for the ending) . For the rest of the series it is about seeing your normal world changed and having your characters growing more mature as they deal with dark and depressing things until they can use that experience to find a way to prevent the end of humanity from happening and slowly build a new future.

There is hope and light at the end of the tunnel in SMT but you have to be willing to trudge through the darkness to get there. I actually find that message better for people without hope in the real world than Persona because with Persona you are still at the mercy of far more powerful beings even when you finally destroy what was trying to kill you or screw with the world.
 
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While I don't get why people hate the idea of an SMT character, since they could come with a lot of content, and the series is influential...

Acting like Nahobino's a lock is genuinely stupid. Sure SMT's important, and sure, SMT V is planned to be a major exclusive, but that goes for loads of other series'. And acting like the pass was fodder for SMT... What? Why? If they couldn't do a character due to time constraints, they just wouldn't. They could even do other SMT characters if they want to represent the series. Demi-Fiend is iconic, and the Nocturne Remaster was in devopment for ages (2 years?) Before its release. SMT IV was a major 3ds exclusive, so they could use Flynn.

Also, we very rarely get the obvious character, so even if all evidence did point to Nahobino we'd probably get a penguin from Club Penguin or something (Which would be pretty cool tbh).

Also, saying you won't get a game you were interested in because of an argument on a forum for a different game or disliking the idea of the series' inclusion because of an argument doesn't make sense. One or two peoples' opinions shouldn't impact your opinion of a game that much. Although, I can't necessarily blame you in this situation, since it really doesn't paint the SMT community in a very good light.

We're not all like this, some of us are cool...
 
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If all of FP2 is meant as filler to get schmucks to buy an ad for SMTV, why put in even more work into its fighters than FP1? I'd think a bunch of placeholders wouldn't include a character who needed every stage edited for him to work right.
 
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Þe 1 → Way said:
I mean, never really believed Samus to begin with, them (her?) making the implausible implication of more fighters after CP11 just makes them seem even less credible in my eyes.
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When did you notice she was not believable for you?

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god I hope she just made a mistake or was lazy. Can’t stand the thought of that 4chan mario rapper leak being potentially real and shoved around everywhere. It just ruins the hype.
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"4chan mario rapper leak" can you post?
 
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Theguy123 said:
god I hope she just made a mistake or was lazy. Can’t stand the thought of that 4chan mario rapper leak being potentially real and shoved around everywhere. It just ruins the hype.
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what's this mario rapper leak? I can't seem to find it.

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TheLamerGamer said:
While I don't get why people hate the idea of an SMT character, since they could come with a lot of content, and the series is influential...

Acting like Nahobino's a lock is genuinely stupid. Sure SMT's important, and sure, SMT V is planned to be a major exclusive, but that goes for loads of other series'. And acting like the pass was fodder for SMT... What? Why? If they couldn't do a character due to time constraints, they just wouldn't. They could even do other SMT characters if they want to represent the series. Demi-Fiend is iconic, and the Nocturne Remaster was in devopment for ages (2 years?) Before its release. SMT IV was a major 3ds exclusive, so they could use Flynn.

Also, we very rarely get the obvious character, so even if all evidence did point to Nahobino we'd probably get a penguin from Club Penguin or something (Which would be pretty cool tbh).

Also, saying you won't get a game you were interested in because of an argument on a forum for a different game or disliking the idea of the series' inclusion because of an argument doesn't make sense. One or two peoples' opinions shouldn't impact your opinion of a game that much. Although, I can't necessarily blame you in this situation, since it really doesn't paint the SMT community in a very good light.

We're not all like this, some of us are cool...
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Cool! Finally someone brings up Flynn onto the smash discussion! I am so happy!
 
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MamaLuigi123456 said:
You must be fun at parties :4pacman:
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I don’t really do parties.

Even when I was little I didn’t care about parties as much as seeing friends and family and getting gifts.

I am a pretty cheerful and fun guy when I am happy but even at my happiest I am pretty grounded in terms of emotion underneath it all.
 
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Between Great Ace Attorney and NEO: TWEWY I'm feeling TWEWY more. For today's spirits, I mean.

But I'm curious... the Great Ace Attorney duology doesn't feature Phoenix Wright, even if the main character is his ancestor. And said duology is technically a spin-off, or at least, not a numbered entry.

Basically what I'm trying to say: if we did get spirits for The Great Ace Attorney... do you think that would disconfirm Phoenix Wright as a fighter?
Thinking about it, I don't think it would necessarily mean Phoenix Wright is out. First of all, Great Ace Attorney doesn't feature him for obvious reasons, so if we got a spirit event specifically focused on the game, Phoenix Wright wouldn't be there. Unless they decide to make an exception, of course, and break the thematic.

I'm also pretty much sure the content he as a fighter would bring would be 95% focused on the mainline games. The mainline entries have enough relevant characters to fill a spirit board, and I guess we could get a few songs from TGAA or the Investigations games, for example.

Just a random thought. I wouldn't surprised if Nintendo just proved me wrong today lmao
 
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SNEKeater said:
Between Great Ace Attorney and NEO: TWEWY I'm feeling TWEWY more. For today's spirits, I mean.

But I'm curious... the Great Ace Attorney duology doesn't feature Phoenix Wright, even if the main character is his ancestor. And said duology is technically a spin-off, or at least, not a numbered entry.

Basically what I'm trying to say: if we did get spirits for The Great Ace Attorney... do you think that would disconfirm Phoenix Wright as a fighter?
Thinking about it, I don't think it would necessarily mean Phoenix Wright is out. First of all, Great Ace Attorney doesn't feature him for obvious reasons, so if we got a spirit event specifically focused on the game, Phoenix Wright wouldn't be there. Unless they decide to make an exception, of course, and break the thematic.

I'm also pretty much sure the content he as a fighter would bring would be 95% focused on the mainline games. The mainline entries have enough relevant characters to fill a spirit board, and I guess we could get a few songs from TGAA or the Investigations games, for example.

Just a random thought. I wouldn't surprised if Nintendo just proved me wrong today lmao
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Personally, I don't think an event would deconfirm, but I think it would shift the discussion around a bit to where he would actually be a surprise.
 
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FreeFox said:
Cool! Finally someone brings up Flynn onto the smash discussion! I am so happy!
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As long as Walter appears in one of the taunts then I'm happy.

Even though I prefer Demi-Fiend and Nahobino's designs, I'd love Flynn. He'd also be able to have other protagonists as alts (assuming they took liberties and gave 1's protag and Aleph magic), which would be cool.
 
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SNEKeater said:
Between Great Ace Attorney and NEO: TWEWY I'm feeling TWEWY more. For today's spirits, I mean.

But I'm curious... the Great Ace Attorney duology doesn't feature Phoenix Wright, even if the main character is his ancestor. And said duology is technically a spin-off, or at least, not a numbered entry.

Basically what I'm trying to say: if we did get spirits for The Great Ace Attorney... do you think that would disconfirm Phoenix Wright as a fighter?
Thinking about it, I don't think it would necessarily mean Phoenix Wright is out. First of all, Great Ace Attorney doesn't feature him for obvious reasons, so if we got a spirit event specifically focused on the game, Phoenix Wright wouldn't be there. Unless they decide to make an exception, of course, and break the thematic.

I'm also pretty much sure the content he as a fighter would bring would be 95% focused on the mainline games. The mainline entries have enough relevant characters to fill a spirit board, and I guess we could get a few songs from TGAA or the Investigations games, for example.

Just a random thought. I wouldn't surprised if Nintendo just proved me wrong today lmao
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It wouldn’t deconfirm Phoenix Wright, but it would deconfirm Herlocke Shlomes which is an absolute travesty.
 
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I will give it that it is pretty ballsy to declare more DLC when Sakurai has said otherwise. But that is all I will give it.
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Along as Walter appears in one of the taunts then I'm happy.

Even though I prefer Demi-Fiend and Nahobino's designs, I'd love Flynn. He'd also be able to have other protagonists as alts (assuming they took liberties and gave 1's protag and Aleph magic), which would be cool.
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Definitely. A hero kind of situation would be the best possible option.
 
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Guynamednelson said:
If all of FP2 is meant as filler to get schmucks to buy an ad for SMTV, why put in even more work into its fighters than FP1? I'd think a bunch of placeholders wouldn't include a character who needed every stage edited for him to work right.
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Because Sakurai finally figured out how to properly represent Minecraft in Smash and he took the opportunity to do it now because it is good for expanding the market for Smash.

If pass 2 isn’t just a bunch of placeholders then why would they make a 2nd pass when they originally weren’t going to? The only reason I can think of is that they couldn’t get a character they wanted in pass 1 that is super important, and the only game that I can think of that fits that reason is SMT V.
 
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I've read through the past couple of pages, reading what could only be described as transcripts from one of the most mind-numbing arguments I've ever had the misfortune of experiencing, and I only have one rebuttal:

Y'all see how gorgeous Ammy's new render looks?


I'm not a Monster Hunter fan. I don't own MH:R. I had no interest in ever buying or playing MH:R. But now I'm actually on the fence...

I know she's not getting into Smash, but man I'd be down for at least a Spirit event at this point. This entire little teaser made me so happy that I actually paused NEO: TWEWY just to watch it multiple times.

What a great day today has been for fans of niche forgotten titles.
 
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MasterCheef said:
When did you notice she was not believable for you?
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I take all leakers with a grain of salt. As egotistical as it might sound, my believability has to be earned.

Samus Hunter really seems to enjoy making somewhat vague comments that can be taken a few different ways.

The part that really struck her credibility to me was getting info wrong about Kazuya. I believe it was that she said the Stage wouldn’t rebuild itself, despite it doing so.
 
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SNEKeater said:
Between Great Ace Attorney and NEO: TWEWY I'm feeling TWEWY more. For today's spirits, I mean.

But I'm curious... the Great Ace Attorney duology doesn't feature Phoenix Wright, even if the main character is his ancestor. And said duology is technically a spin-off, or at least, not a numbered entry.

Basically what I'm trying to say: if we did get spirits for The Great Ace Attorney... do you think that would disconfirm Phoenix Wright as a fighter?
Thinking about it, I don't think it would necessarily mean Phoenix Wright is out. First of all, Great Ace Attorney doesn't feature him for obvious reasons, so if we got a spirit event specifically focused on the game, Phoenix Wright wouldn't be there. Unless they decide to make an exception, of course, and break the thematic.

I'm also pretty much sure the content he as a fighter would bring would be 95% focused on the mainline games. The mainline entries have enough relevant characters to fill a spirit board, and I guess we could get a few songs from TGAA or the Investigations games, for example.

Just a random thought. I wouldn't surprised if Nintendo just proved me wrong today lmao
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No, it would only deconfirm Ryunosuke and not Phoenix. Much like how Heihachi didn't deconfirm Kazuya.
 
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