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It's possible, considering that Sakurai has played other games before they released to get an idea of what the character is like. But if they do go for a Tales character it would also be a safe bet to choose someone else like Lloyd and Yuri who are already established characters that are very popular. Plus I don't think Arise is confirmed for the Switch so I don't see an incentive for Nintendo to choose Alphen when they could instead go for Yuri for example who is uber popular to the point of being banned from fan polls and already has his game on the Switch.
Lloyd I feel is out of the running being at this point with all the Sm4sh Miis having returned, I don't see how with all having returned why he'd be the sole exception and expect him to return as a Mii with a swordfighter character being the last in line of the returning Sm4sh Miis.
If anyone from Arise is gonna get in it's Alphen being he's the actual focused and main protagonist whereas Shionne is just a deuteragonist.
Just because all the other costumes returned doesn't mean that Lloyd HAS to return as a costume too. I could see people being confused on why he would be the only costume upgraded if Monster Hunter and others weren't able to take that leap, but with Smash you never know. That is why I will continue to believe that Lloyd still has a chance until I see that costume.
But Pyra and Mythra
I mean 39 or so out of the 40?
Ok, you got me there. That one slipped my mind apparently.
To be fair, Sakurai did say he was originally gonna have Rex be playable too and the only reason he isn't is because of technical issues.
Technical limitations as Rex & Pyra didn’t work out.
Doubt it. All the promotional characters we have gotten are first-party because that would make more business sense than putting in a third-party character for promotion as Nintendo would get all the profits from those game sales. Even Hero and Joker, the newest third-party characters, are a 2017 and 2016 character respectively and the furst pass was decided in 2018. If any Tales of character is going to get in due to recency, it would likely be Velvet.
Not that I really think the new render has anything to do with Smash, either, but it's worth keeping in mind that every fighter has their own fighter spirit, which do not necessarily fit Smash's art style. Mario and Luigi have their usual, far less detailed and non-realistic overalls in their fighter spirits, while Wario's Overalls fighter spirit (and his Biker one, for that matter) isn't even in the same dimension. There is absolutely no chance that the new render is Waluigi's Smash render, which would appear on the fighter select screen and elsewhere, but there's almost nothing in the way of it being his new fighter spirit.
One could argue Sephiroth though being he was revealed in December, the month the first Final Fantasy came out.
Even then, they were highly established characters from 1997 and 2011 respectively. We haven’t gotten a third-party character that didn’t even debut in a game after Fighter Pass/base roster was decided so I don’t see that as likely.
Can't blame Retro Studios to be honest. If they're skeptical of porting the Metroid Prime Trilogy to the Switch, then it's their thoughts on it. It's not a 2D anthology that Nintendo can easily port to the Switch (like they did with Street Fighter 30th Anniversary, Samurai Shodown NeoGeo Collection, or SNK vs. Capcom: Match of the Millennium).
For the record, this dude hasn't been apart of Retro since like 2011.
On the one hand, Origins never released in Europe. On the other hand, Bandai Namco doesn't seem to care about their Monolith Soft IPs, namely Xenosaga.
Fun fact: the song Valedictory Elegy, from Baten Kaitos: Origins, is in Smash for some reason.
Clickbait gonna clickbait, I guess
That reason being that Nintendo published Origins instead of Namco, although that probably doesn't give them ownership of the IP as a whole.
But we already got Lloyd's costume. And multiple characters from Tales designed by him have appeared in other games beyond Tales games, like Yuri in Project x Zone.
Yeah, still interesting that they chose it specifically to me, lol.
Oops sorry
Yeah, it's basically a Bayonetta situation, apparently: Bandai Namco own the IP and the first game, but Nintendo owns the second game.
I'm not saying he would be opposed, but it could be a possible explanation if Lloyd doesn't become a character. Like an explanation for the lack of base game Tales content.
Lol, I'm sure you would. But every MK game has only had 16 new tracks.
Now imagine if all of those courses were playable in MK8?
Hopefully soon
The Klonoa Encore trademark has updated again today to “Live- Registration - Continuation”. The trademark has faced no objections and is now final for a live title. Oddly enough other already released encore titles got this update as well.
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News regarding the Encore titles in general - It appears that the trademarks for Wagyan, Samurai Ghost and Splatterhouse have all either been rejected or cancelled. HOWEVER Klonoa Encore still stands as completed along with Mr. Driller. pic.twitter.com/4gerDFEV3N
— KLONOA ARCHIVES (@klonoa_archives) April 16, 2021
Ok but Splatterhouse is dead despite having the potential to be absolutely amazing so this is bad news actually
Konami: Raiden or Bill Rizer
Konami: Raiden (MGR Revengeance) I mean they went so far as to give him a spirit in base
Assuming this is for Ultimate and not future games:
I don’t think we’d see something like that for a third party. Especially Namco since they’ve been really sheepish about adding characters as to not seemed biased. Skipping demanded characters with legacy like Lloyd, Yuri or Heihachi for a promotional pick would not go well at all.
I'm kinda doubtful for a couple reasons.
The issue here is that while characters like Byleth were planned in advance, that was the case because Nintendo published Three Houses and had insider knowledge about the production of the game. Nintendo has nothing to do with the Tales series so I doubt they would have any prior knowledge of what Arise would have been back in November 2019 where Fighter Pass 2 was seemingly finalised.
The chances of that happening depend on when Tales of Arise was announced; if it happened before November 2019, then I don't see Alphen happening (also, I don't think Nintendo would have been privvy to Arise's information before FP2's announcement).
Smash 4's balance actually wasn't all that bad for a while. There were 8 characters in A tier and another 8 in B tier. Plus the three S tiers and you had at least 19 viable characters - and that's not going into how much of B and C tier were arguably viable as well. If you count B tier as viable, then there were more viable characters in Smash 4 then there were characters in Melee.
Arise isn't coming to the Switch as far as we know, and unlike Cloud, there is no overwhelming popularity compared to other characters in the series that do have their games on Nintendo systems (in fact, quite the opposite, characters like Yuri and Lloyd who have their games on Nintendo systems also have the advantage of having years to establish themselves as fan favorites, while Arise is brand new). Even Joker had his game released for a couple years before he was added to Smash, allowing Persona 5 to establish a solid fanbase before getting a character added.
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