There's like fifteen ****ing continents and not a lot of Fire Emblem games have any direct relations with other games (1/3 and 13, 4 and 5, 6 and 7, may be missing another), so they got some One Piece type of Earth here
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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II
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SharkLord
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At the very least, Awakening directly references Tellius with Priam and Ragnell, and implies Elibe as well with the Sol Katti. There's also Valentia, which was established as a side-story from the beginning. The DLC mentions Magvell and wherever Fates takes place in as myths, but I'm not sure how much that holds.
No idea where the %$#@ Fodlan fits into all this.
There really be games who's existence isn't even real in their universe and it's wild.
Not even IS wants to keep up with this **** anymore.
TBF, the new Switch model felt like it was in a strange limbo where it felt like a possibility, but Nintendo could've gone the entire generation without going for a Pro. Stillt does make sense, not only since it probably extends the Switch's own lifespan a tad but also gives an option to those who much prefer playing Switch games in front of the TV just as the Lite makes a lot of sense for those who prefer to have a handheld.
It does beg the question whether or not the Switch "Pro" will get "exclusives", but we'll have to see.
This whole conversation convinced me that we need a Civilization: Fire Emblem game. Or Fire Emblem: Total War. (Or something else in that vein)
Yes the full map would be stupidly huge with like 18 different FE continents as well as the everyone in the main FE cast (the leaders like Marth) conducting diplomacy / war / whatever with each other, but hey, it already sounds like an amazing concept.
Also, in miscellaneous news:
The Dynasty Warriors movie gets a 5.1 rating on Douban.
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) May 2, 2021
Most complaints say the it tries to be a classic Three Kingdoms movie and an action Dynasty Warriors movie, but does neither particularly well.
It only grossed $1.5m in Mainland China since releasing yesterday. pic.twitter.com/cQ06jiBgVX
That's... oof.
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...there was a dynasty warriors movie???
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There's something I don't get though: Didn't Ashunera flood the whole world except for Tellius in Ike's games?
Mikegamer0608
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Episode 2 of Super Mario Bros Z Reboot is out if anybody is interested it’s awesome!
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Wasn't there a controversy with the original creator?
SharkLord
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I think the theory was that the Tellius games took place before the other series. It went back to the Fire/Wind/Thunder magic triangle used from FE1 through 5, instead of elemental/white/dark magic used in the Elibe games. We already know the Jugdral games took place before Marth's era, so the flooding wouldn't mean too much if none of them were around yet in the first place.
Garteam
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Multiple times in the Fire Emblem series, it's mentioned that the only way to get from some continents to others is through the use of supernatural portals like the Outrealm Gate or the ones found on Zenith.
However, if all these continents are on the same planet, that means that no civilization on the Fire Emblem planet has successfully advanced to a level of sea travel where they could reach any location on Earth.
This also means that at least civilization on Planet Fire Emblem has successfully invented large-scale rocket artillery before they accomplished something a civilization on our planet did in 1519.
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I see Planet Fire Emblem has its priorities straight...
Ah yes, just put a ****ing threeway time split in Awakening and you got a free timeline.
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The timeline where Chrom and Robin fail to defeat Validar and Lucina and her group go back into the past, the timeline where Chrom and Robin succeed in defeating Grima and then the Future Past timeline where somehow they still failed, but Chrom and Robin were moved by Naga into that timeline to help the Future Past Lucina defeat Grima in that timeline then Naga brings them back from that timeline to their own.Ah yes, just put a ****ing threeway time split in Awakening and you got a free timeline.
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I always just assumed that not all Fire Emblem games take place in the same fantasy world...
Like, half of them exist in the same world as the original, but then there are a lot that clearly do their own thing, like Three Houses (which has pockets of the world with technology comparable to nukes and robots).
Fates is weird because the world seems like it's doing its own thing, but characters from Awakening just show up with no real explanation. Presumably they used interdimensional travel to get there.
Like, half of them exist in the same world as the original, but then there are a lot that clearly do their own thing, like Three Houses (which has pockets of the world with technology comparable to nukes and robots).
Fates is weird because the world seems like it's doing its own thing, but characters from Awakening just show up with no real explanation. Presumably they used interdimensional travel to get there.
Garteam
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Here's a question.
Suppose we do get a hypothetical Nintendo Animated Universe that includes both episodic series and movies. Would any third parties be included, or would planning their inclusion be too complicated logistically?
Point is, I'm asking if we might get a decent animated adaption of Persona 5.
Suppose we do get a hypothetical Nintendo Animated Universe that includes both episodic series and movies. Would any third parties be included, or would planning their inclusion be too complicated logistically?
SharkLord
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Depends on what they're aiming for, which is a bit unknown variable. I'd imagine they'd test the waters first, and bring in third-parties once they know this series has a foundation
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Okay, since it was brought up: all Fire Emblem settings in relation to each other.
Of the sixteen mainline entries, nine take place, 100%, in the same universe (plus one of the four spin off games). Three of these games are remakes, however, so keep that in mind. There is a very concrete timeline for the three continents in this universe; Archanea, Valentia, and Jugdral. The only thing that isn't outright stated is the location of Jugdral in comparison to the other two.
Genealogy of the Holy War and Thracia 776 (a midquel of Genealogy) take place in Jugdral, roughly 1000 years before the Archanea and Valentia games. Then after 1000 years, on Archanea, Shadow Dragon takes place. Pretty much immediately after Shadow Dragon is Shadows of Valentia, on the continent of Valentia across the sea. Then about a year after that is (New) Mystery of the Emblem back in Archanea. The spin off game for the Satellaview, Archanea Saga, takes place immediately before Shadow Dragon. Then 2000 years later, Awakening takes place on both Ylisse (present-day Archanea) and Valm (present-day Valentia). This covers FE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11, 12, 13, and 15, alongside Archanea Saga.
The Binding Blade and The Blazing Blade, the sixth and seventh games, happen in their own universe, on the continent of Elibe. FE7 is a prequel to FE6, taking place twenty years prior.
The Sacred Stones, the eighth title, is a standalone title taking place on the continent of Magvel. It's one of the few that are completely removed from the rest of the series.
Path of Radiance, FE9, is followed by Radiant Dawn, FE10, three or so years later. The continent of Tellius is in its own universe. Ike's descendant, Priam, ended up going to the Greater Archanea Universe through an Outrealm Gate. We'll come back to those later.
Fates, FE14, takes place on an unnamed continent in an unnamed new universe. However, like with Priam, three Awakening characters ended up in the Fates universe through Anankos and the Outrealms. We'll get back to this I swear.
FE16, Three Houses, takes place in a new universe on the continent of Fódlan. There are references and callbacks to previous games, but nothing tangibly connecting it to other games exists at the moment.
So with that covered, what are the Outrealms? Basically, Outrealm Gates are Gateways to the Fire Emblem multiverse, allowing access to these other worlds. They also allow access to past and future versions of the same worlds. They were first seen in Awakening, and then Fates. They're also confirmed to exist in Valentia due to the SoV drama CD.
Then we have Heroes, which expands upon the concept. It takes place in the World of Zenith and is heavily based on Norse mythology. Askr and Embla, the two Midgardian kingdoms named after the Old Norse equivalents of Adam and Eve, are responsible for opening and closing gates to other worlds, respectively. From there we also see their equivalents of the other Norse realms, Múspell (Múspellheim), Nifl (Niflheim), Hel (Helheim), Ljósálfheimr and Dökkálfheimr (Alfheim and Svartalfheim), Niðavellir, and Jötunheimr. Asgard has been hinted at but not shown yet, so it just has Vanaheim left to cover.
Warriors takes place in an unnamed continent with the kingdoms of Aytolis and Gristonne.
...And then Tokyo Mirage Sessions takes place in, well, Tokyo.
Of the sixteen mainline entries, nine take place, 100%, in the same universe (plus one of the four spin off games). Three of these games are remakes, however, so keep that in mind. There is a very concrete timeline for the three continents in this universe; Archanea, Valentia, and Jugdral. The only thing that isn't outright stated is the location of Jugdral in comparison to the other two.
Genealogy of the Holy War and Thracia 776 (a midquel of Genealogy) take place in Jugdral, roughly 1000 years before the Archanea and Valentia games. Then after 1000 years, on Archanea, Shadow Dragon takes place. Pretty much immediately after Shadow Dragon is Shadows of Valentia, on the continent of Valentia across the sea. Then about a year after that is (New) Mystery of the Emblem back in Archanea. The spin off game for the Satellaview, Archanea Saga, takes place immediately before Shadow Dragon. Then 2000 years later, Awakening takes place on both Ylisse (present-day Archanea) and Valm (present-day Valentia). This covers FE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11, 12, 13, and 15, alongside Archanea Saga.
The Binding Blade and The Blazing Blade, the sixth and seventh games, happen in their own universe, on the continent of Elibe. FE7 is a prequel to FE6, taking place twenty years prior.
The Sacred Stones, the eighth title, is a standalone title taking place on the continent of Magvel. It's one of the few that are completely removed from the rest of the series.
Path of Radiance, FE9, is followed by Radiant Dawn, FE10, three or so years later. The continent of Tellius is in its own universe. Ike's descendant, Priam, ended up going to the Greater Archanea Universe through an Outrealm Gate. We'll come back to those later.
Fates, FE14, takes place on an unnamed continent in an unnamed new universe. However, like with Priam, three Awakening characters ended up in the Fates universe through Anankos and the Outrealms. We'll get back to this I swear.
FE16, Three Houses, takes place in a new universe on the continent of Fódlan. There are references and callbacks to previous games, but nothing tangibly connecting it to other games exists at the moment.
So with that covered, what are the Outrealms? Basically, Outrealm Gates are Gateways to the Fire Emblem multiverse, allowing access to these other worlds. They also allow access to past and future versions of the same worlds. They were first seen in Awakening, and then Fates. They're also confirmed to exist in Valentia due to the SoV drama CD.
Then we have Heroes, which expands upon the concept. It takes place in the World of Zenith and is heavily based on Norse mythology. Askr and Embla, the two Midgardian kingdoms named after the Old Norse equivalents of Adam and Eve, are responsible for opening and closing gates to other worlds, respectively. From there we also see their equivalents of the other Norse realms, Múspell (Múspellheim), Nifl (Niflheim), Hel (Helheim), Ljósálfheimr and Dökkálfheimr (Alfheim and Svartalfheim), Niðavellir, and Jötunheimr. Asgard has been hinted at but not shown yet, so it just has Vanaheim left to cover.
Warriors takes place in an unnamed continent with the kingdoms of Aytolis and Gristonne.
...And then Tokyo Mirage Sessions takes place in, well, Tokyo.
Otoad64
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if it's a Nintendo Animated Universe, definitely no.
if it's specifically a Super Smash Bros. themed Animated Universe?
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Rest of Pass 2:
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Pass 3:
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3) Heavy or Gordon Freeman
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Michael the Spikester
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As mentioned a Nintendo Cinematic Universe would be too complex and difficult to do.
The best we could see is an anime series based on the SSE or World of Light storyline. Thus no worldbuilding or build-up like the MCU had.
It's really the only way it would work otherwise potential Nintendo franchise animated adaptions work better as their own whether full-length animated films, animes or cartoons (Notably NetFlix exclusive).
The best we could see is an anime series based on the SSE or World of Light storyline. Thus no worldbuilding or build-up like the MCU had.
It's really the only way it would work otherwise potential Nintendo franchise animated adaptions work better as their own whether full-length animated films, animes or cartoons (Notably NetFlix exclusive).
Mikegamer0608
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Not that I have heard of? What was the controversy?
I think it was him being anti-feminist after saying something about Peach being a top tier in Ultimate.
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in my case i'll list off my picks if Smash Ultimate had 100 unique newcomers counting from the first DLC, taken from the thread of the same name:
Man, this hurts my ****ing head to read but it's probably what they would say.The timeline where Chrom and Robin fail to defeat Validar and Lucina and her group go back into the past, the timeline where Chrom and Robin succeed in defeating Grima and then the Future Past timeline where somehow they still failed, but Chrom and Robin were moved by Naga into that timeline to help the Future Past Lucina defeat Grima in that timeline then Naga brings them back from that timeline to their own.
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2B and Bomberman are now Fall Guys
(Also this is the second major collaboration with Tron, why and how?)
This is just another notch on the Nier crossover hierarchy, it's just missing Fortnite and Smash.
Every collab skin releasing in Season 4.5. pic.twitter.com/HFQZtXlFKp
— ⚒️ Pancake - Fall Guys Leaks 🔧 (@FGPancake) May 1, 2021
(Also this is the second major collaboration with Tron, why and how?)
This is just another notch on the Nier crossover hierarchy, it's just missing Fortnite and Smash.
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Michael the Spikester
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Kid Icarus deserves its own anime, especially being NetFlix exclusive like how Castlevania is.
Pillow
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I’m kind of late to the whole movie discussion, but I don’t think it’s a matter of complexity or what have you. We have an Angry Birds and Emoji movie after all. We even have some decent movies based on shallow concepts such as the Lego movie.
So yeah, it’s not so much that the base idea is inherently flawed, but I do agree that this is the sort of concept that is very likely to be butchered by Hollywood executives out the gate. I’d take an okay Zelda Netflix animation instead though.
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Mikegamer0608
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Oh? Well I guess I never heard about it and nobody really mentioned it. I guess I won’t look to much into it.
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For a dead game, it gets a lot of stuff...
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People really need to stop assuming a game is "dead" just because it isn't dominating the Steam/Twitch charts anymore.
"dead" bro wdym it wouldnt be in season 4.5 being dead
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Dang it, I was trying to make a joke about people calling it dead. Why am I so BAD at this?
PeridotGX
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it would probably be on a case-by-case basis. Sonic and Castlevania already have lucrative adaptations, so they have no real incentive to merge with Nintendo for this. Series without active adaptations might be more willing to play ball. Capcom can get money from doing nothing but letting Nintendo make a Mega Man show. I'd also imagine Nintendo would have reservations putting a Metal Gear movie in the same universe as Mario and Kirby.
Here's another interesting question: if third parties do get a role in this universe, are ones who aren't in Smash off the table?
cothero
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I know i'm going to sound biased ('cuz i want Rash in smash DUH), but speaking of a third Microsoft rep, he seems the most appropriate choice now (if there'll be a third rep). Shares good history with Nintendo, one of the most recognizable beat em' up franchises (smash doesn't have a beat em' up rep yet) and an cartoonic anthropomorphic fighting frog encapsulates perfectly the essence of Smash Bros.
Master Chief is a HUGE icon, but Halo shares zero history with Nintendo and he comes from a FPS game (not sure if Nintendo really want to push a FPS character in smash).
Doomguy was deconfirmed by DOOM devs, and maybe Nintendo thinks DOOM way too brutal to be represented in smash.
Conker is dead.
Also Perfect Dark.
A Gears of War rep is not happening.
A Killer Instict rep is possible. Not as violent as MK and has awesome pieces of music, but again, Battletoads seems more suitable for a smash rep considering the nature of the game.
What do you think?
Master Chief is a HUGE icon, but Halo shares zero history with Nintendo and he comes from a FPS game (not sure if Nintendo really want to push a FPS character in smash).
Doomguy was deconfirmed by DOOM devs, and maybe Nintendo thinks DOOM way too brutal to be represented in smash.
Conker is dead.
Also Perfect Dark.
A Gears of War rep is not happening.
A Killer Instict rep is possible. Not as violent as MK and has awesome pieces of music, but again, Battletoads seems more suitable for a smash rep considering the nature of the game.
What do you think?
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You're going to run into a world of trouble arguing who is 'fitting', but by the old standards, the Rare characters would best qualify from Microsoft's stable, yes. Given like half of them used to be Nintendo characters. And of the Rare series, people would probably have attempted to invalidate Perfect Dark because guns and Conker because of BFD's whole deal.
So I guess you'd be down to Battletoads and Killer Instinct of the series people give a **** about. And then Killer Instinct would probably have the edge given it was an actual Nintendo-owned series, while Battletoads never was.
Of course these are by the old standards. By currents standards it's not like Rash wouldn't "fit", but... he'd feel a bit weird next to all the bigger deal third-parties, several of whom have no strong Nintendo association.
Pillow
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Nintendo association absolutely doesn’t matter at this point. It’s MC or bust from Microsoft. That said, I think Battletoads has the best chances from the company if/after Chief is added.
cothero
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You mean bigger deal third-parties characters like Joker and Terry?
Than Battletoads? Yes.
PeridotGX
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i feel like the Skyrim guy is also on the table.
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