Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Michael the Spikester]

Reminder we're 50 days away from E3.

Leaks should probably be coming up sometime in May.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

So, if you guys had to choose one stage to bring back from any of the previous 5 Smash Games as a Bonus to fill up the Three Missing Stage Slots, which ones would they be?

Melee Mute City remastered, and add some GX music with it
As for the other two... Orbital Gate (idc how hard it is just do it) and uhhhhhhh idk what else

 

[Dukefire]

I still think the DLC character(s) will be saved for E3 in June rather in May.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

So, if you guys had to choose one stage to bring back from any of the previous 5 Smash Games as a Bonus to fill up the Three Missing Stage Slots, which ones would they be?

PAC Maze for sure. It feels dirty having PAC Man in the game without his famous locale

 

[Ivander]

So, if you guys had to choose one stage to bring back from any of the previous 5 Smash Games as a Bonus to fill up the Three Missing Stage Slots, which ones would they be?

Pac-Maze.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I still think the DLC character(s) will be saved for E3 in June rather in May.

I mean Sakurai did state in his latest column we will have to wait "a little longer" than ususal.

 

[JOJONumber691]

Reminder we're 50 days away from E3.

Leaks should probably be coming up sometime in May.

I hope, because it would be less toxic lol.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Reminder we're 50 days away from E3.

Leaks should probably be coming up sometime in May.

That's 50 Days too many! I'm an Impatiant Video Game Fan(TM)!

 

[Evil Trapezium]

So, if you guys had to choose one stage to bring back from any of the previous 5 Smash Games as a Bonus to fill up the Three Missing Stage Slots, which ones would they be?

Pac-Maze come home!

 

[DanganZilla5]

So, if you guys had to choose one stage to bring back from any of the previous 5 Smash Games as a Bonus to fill up the Three Missing Stage Slots, which ones would they be?

Pac Maze because Pac Land is **** and it's ridiculous that they cut out the stage that represents Pac Man the best instead of the abomination one. Also I need my Rainbow Road back and for the third one, Poke Floats. I think that would make for the perfect stage roster, barring Jungle Hijinx, Orbital Gate Assault, and Yoshi's Woolly World.

 

[Brother AJ]

Eh... I feel a little better about Pac-land now that I've learned it helped influence and pave the way for other 2d platformers like the original Super Mario Bros.

 

[Louie G.]

Eh... I feel a little better about Pac-land now that I've learned it helped influence and pave the way for other 2d platformers like the original Super Mario Bros.

For me it’s less about disliking the Pac-Land representation and moreso being frustrated that it was prioritized over one of the most iconic locations in video game history. Would be nothing wrong with simply giving Pac-Man two stages.

Granted Pac-Maze was obviously cut because of the 3DS gimmick or whatever, but we got freaking Golden Plains back so there’s really no good excuse.

 

[duxx]

So, if you guys had to choose one stage to bring back from any of the previous 5 Smash Games as a Bonus to fill up the Three Missing Stage Slots, which ones would they be?

pokefloats all the way

 

[ROBnWatch]

Aw man, I missed the EarthBound/Mother talk...

I guess I’ll still throw in my late 2 cents. I think that with certain tweaks to his design, you can make Ninten look different enough from Ness to be an echo/semi-clone.

For the sake of discussion, let’s go with a semi-clone route. Ninten’s arsenal in EarthBound Beginnings is entirely healing and assist based. He has no offensive PSI, that’s Ana’s job. So he would obviously need to take an attack or two from her and/or Ness’ moveset. From EarthBound Beginnings, he could utilize PK Beam, 4th-D Slip (basically Mewtwo’s Teleport I’d assume), Boomerangs, and maybe a Down-B that gives a temporary buff to him (offense, defense, speed, or even a PSI shield). And obviously most other offensive PSI from Beginnings is already represented in either Ness’ or Lucas’ moveset, so he could borrow some of that. I think there’s enough potential for a semi-clone, though he would likely be an echo.

As for other characters from the series that could appear before him, I would rather have Porky, as he’s a primary antagonist and appears in more games from the series than Ninten. Also, Porky probably has more interesting moveset potential/variety when compared to the current playable EarthBound characters. In the end, I wouldn’t mind which of the 2 characters get in since it’s more EarthBound representation, but I think the potential of other characters from the series is more intriguing than Ninten. But if you need to have playable representation for all 3 games, you can probably make Ninten into a semi-clone at best to fulfill that.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

So, if you guys had to choose one stage to bring back from any of the previous 5 Smash Games as a Bonus to fill up the Three Missing Stage Slots, which ones would they be?

Pac-Maze

Litterally one of the most iconic locales in gaming, and it feels kinda odd not having it in some capacity

 

[Eldrake]

Wanna see the most asinine echo roster list?
No?
Too bad, feast your eyes upon this monstrosity.

Kraid don't even have wings...

 

[ROBnWatch]

So, if you guys had to choose one stage to bring back from any of the previous 5 Smash Games as a Bonus to fill up the Three Missing Stage Slots, which ones would they be?

Yaaaaa, gonna need to go with the majority here. Let’s get Pac-Maze back. Better yet, let’s get Pac-Maze back, remove Pac-Land, and then we still have another slot to fill to bring back another stage.

Or we could just use that new slot to finally give R.O.B. a proper home stage.

 

[SharkLord]

Kraid don't even have wings...

He'll use a jetpack

 

[SKX31]

And just forget the industry innovation that was Ultimate Ronaldinho Soccer 64 for Nintendo 64? I'm pretty sure that game was a bootleg.

It is a bootleg, of International Superstar Soccer 64 (original intro here). Said bootleg slapped Ronaldo (the Brazilian one, also known as "il Fenomeno" by the Italian press. Not Christiano Ronaldo, who's Portoguese and was around 13 when the game and bootleg came out) onto the title screen - him in the Inter Milan shirt and him in the Brazillian kit - changed the announcer to Portuguese (with some Spanish words thrown in) and called it a day. Ronaldo was in his prime when the bootleg released in February '98, so that's why the bootleg makers chose him. (Sidenote: The convulsive fit he suffered six hours before the World Cup Final that year spawned conspiracy theories involving Nike the shoewear company. Not kidding, the whole thing was nuts. He did lead the Brazillians to victory four years later, though.)

Still though, that announcer is a thing of beauty.

Reminder we're 50 days away from E3.

Leaks should probably be coming up sometime in May.

So in other words, Nintendo's plumbing is old and rusty? I mean, they should hire some plumbers ASAP and fix the leaky pipes of the Information Superhighway. If only they had some plumbers...

For me it’s less about disliking the Pac-Land representation and moreso being frustrated that it was prioritized over one of the most iconic locations in video game history. Would be nothing wrong with simply giving Pac-Man two stages.

Granted Pac-Maze was obviously cut because of the 3DS gimmick or whatever, but we got freaking Golden Plains back so there’s really no good excuse.

Besides that though, Pac-Land is one of the very few stages I have turned off in casual rulesets for a reason.

It feels like Sakurai and co. designed Pac-Land as this giant tour, but included some really annoying obstacles to force people to jump a lot. And it's a horizontal autoscroller too, which just adds even more annoyance and incentive to camp blastzones.

So yeah, please bring back Pac Maze.

Kraid don't even have wings...

He'll use a jetpack

How would Kraid F-Air though?

(Semi-serious question, couldn't resist the dad joke.)

 

[Paraster]

So, if you guys had to choose one stage to bring back from any of the previous 5 Smash Games as a Bonus to fill up the Three Missing Stage Slots, which ones would they be?

Pac-Maze
Orbital Gate Assault
Rainbow Road or Poke Floats

 

[Brother AJ]

For me it’s less about disliking the Pac-Land representation and moreso being frustrated that it was prioritized over one of the most iconic locations in video game history. Would be nothing wrong with simply giving Pac-Man two stages.

Granted Pac-Maze was obviously cut because of the 3DS gimmick or whatever, but we got freaking Golden Plains back so there’s really no good excuse.

Yea I agree. We should've gotten both.

That's interesting though, what 3DS gimmick are you referring to? I remember people saying it was removed due to Stage Morph, but I don't really see why it would have a problem with that.

 

[JOJONumber691]

Yea I agree. We should've gotten both.

That's interesting though, what 3DS gimmick are you referring to? I remember people saying it was removed due to Stage Morph, but I don't really see why it would have a problem with that.

Power Pellets only made the Ghosts scared on your screen. Best workaround is to make them the color of the character slot, as well as a PAC-MAN Icon when you grab a Power Pellet. Honestly, I could seriously think about how to best implement every cut stage back into Ultimate in all honesty.

 

[Technomage]

Wanna see the most asinine echo roster list?
No?
Too bad, feast your eyes upon this monstrosity.

Okay, here's my take on the challenge of giving as many non-echo characters (that don't already have echoes) as I can an echo of their own:

Jeanne
Dry Bowser (though I did come up with an idea of Bowletta as a Bowser echo, I'm pretty sure his/her (I use those pronouns specifically because I consider Bowletta a hermaphrodite, due to being a fusion of a male creature and a female creature) facial structure/skeleton is too different from Bowser's to be viable as an echo)
Koopa Kid
Black Shadow
Zack Fair
Kana (its child)
Dixie Kong
Funky Kong
Krystal
Demise
Priam
Octoling
Igglybuff
CD-i Link
Mega Lucario
Masked Man
Gooigi
Sports Mario
Proto Man
Galacta Knight
Mega Mewtwo X
Ninjara
Ninten
Alph
Toc-Man
Medusa
Surfing Pikachu
Wartortle
Bulbasaur
Mega Charizard X (could be given something similar to the Pichu treatment, where it deals more damage, but at the cost of its own attacks damaging itself, referencing the Pokedex entries of Mega Evolutions that claim Mega Evolving causes the transforming Pokemon pain/harm)
Mecha-Ridley
Morgan (its child)
Impa
Big Boss
Shadow
Fatal Cutie Terry
Vampire Wario
Ring Fit Trainee
Panther
Yarn Yoshi

P.S. The reason I didn't include echoes for Pythra is because Mythra is practically an echo of Pyra.

So, if you guys had to choose one stage to bring back from any of the previous 5 Smash Games as a Bonus to fill up the Three Missing Stage Slots, which ones would they be?

I pick Pyrosphere, especially if it'd also come with its Ridley stage boss. My other two picks would be Pac-Maze and Meta Crystal.

 

[DarthEnderX]

So, if you guys had to choose one stage to bring back from any of the previous 5 Smash Games as a Bonus to fill up the Three Missing Stage Slots, which ones would they be?

Poke Floats, Pac-Maze, Rainbow Road.

Okay, here's my take on the challenge of giving as many non-echo characters (that don't already have echoes) as I can an echo of their own:

Here's all the Echoes I want to see:

- Ninten
- Black Shadow
- Impa
- Galacta Knight
- Liquid Snake
- Black Knight
- Charizard
- Dixie Kong
- Shadow
- Bass
- Zack
- Jeanne
- Octolings

 

[Doc Monocle]

Kraid don't even have wings...

... and I do wonder how Bottles could echo Banjo AND KAZOOIE.

 

[Technomage]

Poke Floats, Pac-Maze, Rainbow Road.


Here's all the Echoes I want to see:

- Ninten
- Black Shadow
- Impa
- Galacta Knight
- Liquid Snake
- Black Knight
- Charizard
- Dixie Kong
- Shadow
- Bass
- Zack
- Jeanne
- Octolings

Speaking of Black Knight, should he have both the Black Knight and Zelgius as alternate costumes?

 

[Jocario Zero]

So, if you guys had to choose one stage to bring back from any of the previous 5 Smash Games as a Bonus to fill up the Three Missing Stage Slots, which ones would they be?

Planet Zebes from Smash 64, one of my favorite stages in the series and I love how chaotic fights can get here (yes we got brinstar but its just not the same for me.)

 

[Commander_Alph]

Okay, here's my take on the challenge of giving as many non-echo characters (that don't already have echoes) as I can an echo of their own:

Well, here's mine:


= Hero's Shade
= Link from the top down Zelda games (preferably the original)
= Azura (her spear is a good substitute for Corrin's lance)
= Midbus
= Drifblim

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Happy North American Birthday to Smash 64!

Super Smash Bros. was released in the US on this day 22 years ago! The title brought Nintendo characters into the ring for chaotic 4-player fighting on the N64. While it started out as a Nintendo All-Star experience, it became a video game All-Star experience.#GameHistoryDaily pic.twitter.com/ovK77aVvov

— Memory Card (@MemCardShow) April 26, 2021

 

[Deleted member]

I still think the DLC character(s) will be saved for E3 in June rather in May.

I feel like that's the common consensus atm.

I don't see why they would reveal a character in May when they can do the exact same thing a few weeks later with a much bigger audience.

 

[chocolatejr9]

I feel like that's the common consensus atm.

I don't see why they would reveal a character in May when they can do the exact same thing a few weeks later with a much bigger audience.

Or they can torture us with another guessing game...

 

[Deleted member]

Or they can torture us with another guessing game...

eh, I would honestly be fine with them doing something like that again. Well, except for the part that it kinda destroys speculation since we already would know what series the next character is from, which gets boring fast. So it's kinda a half good, half bad thing.

 

[SharkLord]

Or they can torture us with another guessing game...

And this is the part where we joke about the horrifying prospect of a 150+ character League of Legends guessing game

 

[chocolatejr9]

And this is the part where we joke about the horrifying prospect of a 150+ character League of Legends guessing game

I was gonna joke about Danganronpa, but that works too...

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Or they can torture us with another guessing game...

"The fighter included in wave 10 of Super Smash Bros Ultimate DLC will be...

...from a video game!"

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

Imagine if there's no character revealed at E3.

 

[SpectreJordan]

Reminder we're 50 days away from E3.

Leaks should probably be coming up sometime in May.

We’ll see if anything happens for Smash. Nintendo’s had things on lockdown since Banjo. No leakers talked about Terry until the SNK leak from Nintendo theirselves.

Hell, no one backed up Steve & Sephiroth for FP2 despite their names being all around the leaker sphere in 2018.

 

[CannonStreak]

Imagine if there's no character revealed at E3.

There would be hell here and everywhere for sure if that were to happen.

 

[Technomage]

Imagine if there's no character revealed at E3.

I'd be pissed, especially if there's no new fighter announced between Pythra's release and E3.

 

[Ivander]

Okay, here's my take on the challenge of giving as many non-echo characters (that don't already have echoes) as I can an echo of their own

-
- Paula
- Impa
- Priam
- Shadow as a Ken/Chrom-like Echo
- Roll
- Octolings
- Ninjara