Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Mushroomguy12]

Threads dead eh?

quick! What shall we talk about???

I can guess who you want to talk about.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I can guess who you want to talk about.

Eh... close but maybe not this time

surprise frickers I wanna talk Shantae. Not Reimu, surprisingly.

 

[PeridotGX]

Regigigas is very cool along with Magneton.

literally nobody else is cooler than these two. dante wishes he could be a triad of floating magnets.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Eh... close but maybe not this time

surprise frickers I wanna talk Shantae. Not Reimu, surprisingly.

WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH RIE!?!?!

 

[Technomage]

Threads dead eh?

quick! What shall we talk about???

What about extra alternate costumes (as in ones that go past the 8 count)?

My picks would be:

Luigi: Mr. L

Link: Gerudo Armor, CD-i

Ganondorf: TP Ganondorf

Zero Suit Samus: Justin Bailey leotard

Meta Knight: Maskless

Mewtwo: Anime armor

Captain Falcon: Bart Lemming (his civilian identity from the anime)

Ness: Ninten

Marth: FE1 Toga

Snake: Old Snake

Sonic: All of his upgrades from Sonic Adventure 2

Ryu: Evil Ryu

Simon: Castlevania Judgment incarnation

Hero: DQ4 Female Hero

Banjo-Kazooie: Dragon Kazooie, Nuts-and-Bolts Banjo-Kazooie

Cloud: Cloudette disguise

Mega Man: Helmetless

I would also like to add Peach, daisy, and Rosalina's biker suits, but I don't know if they'd mesh well enough with their animations and moves that involve their skirts (such as the float ability).

 

[Rie Sonomura]

What about extra alternate costumes (as in ones that go past the 8 count)?

My picks would be:

Luigi: Mr. L

Link: Gerudo Armor, CD-i

Ganondorf: TP Ganondorf

Zero Suit Samus: Justin Bailey leotard

Meta Knight: Maskless

Mewtwo: Anime armor

Captain Falcon: Bart Lemming (his civilian identity from the anime)

Ness: Ninten

Marth: FE1 Toga

Snake: Old Snake

Sonic: All of his upgrades from Sonic Adventure 2

Ryu: Evil Ryu

Simon: Castlevania Judgment incarnation

Hero: DQ4 Female Hero

Banjo-Kazooie: Dragon Kazooie, Nuts-and-Bolts Banjo-Kazooie

Cloud: Cloudette disguise

Mega Man: Helmetless

I would also like to add Peach, daisy, and Rosalina's biker suits, but I don't know if they'd mesh well enough with their animations and moves that involve their skirts (such as the float ability).

CF: Helmetless
Hero: DQ3 Female Hero & Sofia
Joker: Kasumi (with alternative voice and FS animation)
Luigi: Mr. L
Inkling: Splatoon 2 hairstyles for girl & boy

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Threads dead eh?

quick! What shall we talk about???

Simon Henriksson from the Half Life mod, Cry of Fear.

I don't know how he would play in Smash Bros but I enjoyed the game a lot. Really scary horror game but does rely on Jumpscares quite a bit.

 

[pupNapoleon]

People who still include an Undertale character in their leaks perplex me, as if we hadn't already gotten a deluxe costume with music from that series.

If we were going to get a character, even if the costume wasn't saved for then (which it would be), the music certainly would.

That leak strikes me as created by someone who just wants those characters.

But well played because oh look at this we're talking about Shadow again.

Undertale is the new SMRPG

 

[DarthEnderX]

Damn, couldn't you have picked better pictures? **** is way too hard to figure out.

What am I gonna do? Crop the images! Ain't nobody got time for that!

 

[Guynamednelson]

Simon Henriksson from the Half Life mod, Cry of Fear.

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I don't know how he would play in Smash Bros but I enjoyed the game a lot. Really scary horror game but does rely on Jumpscares quite a bit.

The irony of Nintendo suggesting a character from a mod to Sakurai when we all know what they do to ROM hacks.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

What I want is an Undertale spirit event that does the Cuphead trick with Sans, but that doesn’t seem to want to happen

also

Undertale is the new SMRPG

The irony of Nintendo suggesting a character from a mod to Sakurai when we all know what they do to ROM hacks.

The irony of seeing these posts back-to-back makes me low key wanna mention that Toby Fox started off with that EarthBound Halloween rom hack before going to Undertale

 

[Guynamednelson]

The irony of seeing these posts back-to-back makes me low key wanna mention that Toby Fox started off with that EarthBound Halloween rom hack before going to Undertale

Yes, and Megalovania even comes from that hack. A hack that, in the scene featuring Megalovania, includes the line "i'll shove your asses so far down your throats that when you crap you'll sing ****ing beethoven tl;dr: eat **** ******s".

 

[Cap'n Jack]

I don't expect any more villains this pass.

I happen to agree with this and think that if we were to get a second Sonic rep it would be Tails (despite being a DLC Mii costume) and that pass would focus on famous player 2s in gaming like Luigi, Diddy Kong, and Falco

 

[cothero]

Speaking of KOS-MOS, do you guys think she's still a possibility? Also, if she gets in, would she share the same series icon as Shulk? Cuz i feel Shulk's icon was designed specifically for Xenoblade (monado) and KOS-MOS is a Xenosaga character (i kinda know they share the same universe, but still.)

I could also see Lloyd mii hat returning with her.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

If there’s a pipe dream villain I really want it’s Black Shadow

but he’s sadly just that. A pipe dream.

Unless F-Zero GX HD and/or a new F-Zero happens but I am SO not holding my breath for that

Quick question for y'all: do you guys think KOS-MOS is still a possibility? Also, if she gets in, would she share the same series icon as Shulk? Cuz i feel Shulk's icon was designed specifically for Xenoblade (monado) and KOS-MOS is a Xenosaga character (i kinda know they share the same universe, but still.)

I could also see Lloyd mii hat returning with her.

Wrt sharing Shulk’s series icon: maybe, maybe not. I do think Lloyd’s costume will return with her at the very least

 

[Technomage]

Quick question for y'all: do you guys think KOS-MOS is still a possibility? Also, if she gets in, would she share the same series icon as Shulk? Cuz i feel Shulk's icon was designed specifically for Xenoblade (monado) and KOS-MOS is a Xenosaga character (i kinda know they share the same universe, but still.)

I'd say that KOS-MOS has a decent chance, though I don't think she and Shulk would share the same emblem, since KOS-MOS is owned by Namco, while Shulk is owned by Ninty.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

If there’s a pipe dream villain I really want it’s Black Shadow

but he’s sadly just that. A pipe dream.

Unless F-Zero GX HD and/or a new F-Zero happens but I am SO not holding my breath for that

You and me both.

If anyone from F-Zero should get in its definitely him.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

RE: KOS-MOS see what I did there?, it wouldn’t surprise me if she only included content that involved both Bamco AND Monolith. Not Bamco only. Not Monolith only. BOTH parties must be involved. Maybe we’ll get more Baten Kaitos content? Of course this could mean Lloyd’s costume will return with someone else... or even he’ll make the jump to playable...

 

[cothero]

You and me both.

If anyone from F-Zero should get in its definitely him.

Sadly, F-Zero is drowning deeply into Nintendo's limbo. I could see a decent new F-Zero game coming to Switch.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Sadly, F-Zero is drowning deeply into Nintendo's limbo. I could see a decent new F-Zero game coming to Switch.

Maybe give GX the HD treatment with online to test the waters first

 

[cothero]

If there’s a pipe dream villain I really want it’s Black Shadow

but he’s sadly just that. A pipe dream.

Unless F-Zero GX HD and/or a new F-Zero happens but I am SO not holding my breath for that

Wrt sharing Shulk’s series icon: maybe, maybe not. I do think Lloyd’s costume will return with her at the very least

I agree. I think this icon would work just fine for her:

 

[Cap'n Jack]

This idea has been hingering me for a while now to discuss.

But to my knowledge these have been the most highly demanded and requested characters who got in due to it. How about we discuss why those characters were wanted?



Wouldandalso fall into this category? Not sure which is why I didn't list them but those above I've heard being among the most requested and added due to said demand.

I know with Banjo it's because of the nostalgia coming from one of the best selling N64 games and demand from fans of the two games who grew up with it and the characters.

Ridley and K. Rool being among Nintendo's most iconic villains.

Weirdly enough, I almost point to Smash Vault and the moding scene in Brawl as to why garnered such fan demand

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I agree. I think this icon would work just fine for her:

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How about the Vector Industries logo too? It vaguely resembles the symbol for the Cancer constellation. Vaguely.

 

[Speed Weed]

Threads dead eh?

quick! What shall we talk about???

It's time to talk about the greatest character in video game history, Opa-Opa from the hit game Fantasy Zone

 

[RouffWestie]

What about extra alternate costumes (as in ones that go past the 8 count)?

Fire Mario
Dry Bowser
Boxing gloves
Horned Hat
Outset shirt + Conductor
Quick Draw outfits

 

[Mapusaurus]

Speaking of KOS-MOS, do you guys think she's still a possibility? Also, if she gets in, would she share the same series icon as Shulk? Cuz i feel Shulk's icon was designed specifically for Xenoblade (monado) and KOS-MOS is a Xenosaga character (i kinda know they share the same universe, but still.)

I could also see Lloyd mii hat returning with her.

ngl i cant really see them add her in but thats just me shed be cool tho

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Speaking of KOS-MOS, do you guys think she's still a possibility? Also, if she gets in, would she share the same series icon as Shulk? Cuz i feel Shulk's icon was designed specifically for Xenoblade (monado) and KOS-MOS is a Xenosaga character (i kinda know they share the same universe, but still.)

No. They are from different series, and thus would have different icons.

EDIT: Also, I personally don't think they'd add her given her competition, but eh, who knows?

 

[Munchi]

What about extra alternate costumes (as in ones that go past the 8 count)?

Future connected costume
Other heroes
Wedding costume
Master of Disguise
Promotional class

 

[Rie Sonomura]

The Conduit in Xenoblade 2 (and by extension the Lifeholds in Xenoblade X) do resemble Xenosaga’s Zohar, and the Conduit even has a similar backstory and functions as the Zohar but until Word of God says they are connected, it’s best to assume those details were merely inspired by Xenosaga

remember Bamco still owns the rights to Xenosaga. Xenoblade is all Ninty like someone here said

 

[Technomage]

Wedding costume

Ah, I totally forgot about Bowser's wedding tux; yeah, that would be cool, too. :D

 

[Garteam]

This idea has been hingering me for a while now to discuss.

But to my knowledge these have been the most highly demanded and requested characters who got in due to it. How about we discuss why those characters were wanted?



Wouldandalso fall into this category? Not sure which is why I didn't list them but those above I've heard being among the most requested and added due to said demand.

I know with Banjo it's because of the nostalgia coming from one of the best selling N64 games and demand from fans of the two games who grew up with it and the characters.

Ridley and K. Rool being among Nintendo's most iconic villains.

just had kind of a perfect storm behind his potential inclusion that made him very popular with the Smash fanbase prior to his inclusion in Wii U/3DS:

• Something of an honourary Nintendo character, given how iconic his NES appearances are to that console's iconography and legacy, so many people thought it was strange that he was passed up in Brawl.
• One of the few characters that could fit with the various rules that the fanbase had for potential third parties at the time (one character per company, must have some Nintendo connection, must be a major gaming icon, must have some historical impact on the medium).
• Saw a revival of his most classic incarnation around the Brawl came out with Mega Man 9 and 10, but quickly entered a dark age around 2011 where his games were rapidly getting cancelled and no one was sure of the franchise beyond merchandise and Virtual Console re-releases. People just wanted to see Mega Man in anything new.

was highly desired for reasons similar to Mega Man, although it was more about being a former Nintendo rival and his new games simply not being very good rather than not existing.
largely rode a wave of support from Kid Icarus Uprising. Given that many Smash fans followed Sakurai to Uprising and then later returned to Smash Speculation after that game released and Sakurai confirmed Smash would be his next project, people were pretty hype for a new Kid Icarus character.
started out as more of an obligation amongst the speculation community than an actual want. Awakening was super popular and came out at the right time to get a character for Wii U/3DS, so most people thought Chrom was inevitable as that game's protagonist. Even back then, a lot of people thought it would be overkill to have three blue-haired swordsmen from Fire Emblem. Once he got deconfirmed, however, Chrom went from being an unpopular inevitability to a fan-favourite underdog. Getting beat up by Captain Falcon and regulated to Robin's final smash really humanized the character in the eyes of the speculation community.
grew in popularity as more and more doubt surrounded Ridley's inclusion. Much like how people wanted more Mega Man after the series went silent, people really wanted Metroid to get another chance after Other M's lukewarm reception and sales. A lot of people thought getting another Metroid character in Smash would be a good way to accomplish this, and many of those people thought that Dark Samus was much more obtainable than Ridley. Plus, this was around the time where nostalgia for the Gamecube was starting to become a real thing and many looked back to Prime 1 and 2 as gems within that console's library.
While logical in hindsight, neither or were ever super popular amongst the speculation community. A few people brought up Ryu, but he was often ignored in favour of the more popular Mega Man due to the community's belief that outside companies could only have a single character. Plus, people misinterpreting Sakurai's quote about fighting game characters being potentially uninteresting as "fighting game characters are never happening" led many to think Ryu was fully off the table. Similarly, speculators likewise avoided Steve in favour of Banjo and Kazooie, as many thought they'd be the more logical Microsoft rep for Ultimate's DLC. The fact that Minecraft was still growing out of the "cringy kids" image it developed around 2014 at the time didn't help matters either.

There was also the Grotesque Steve images, but my court-ordered therapist is currently on vacation so we're just gonna ignore that.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

The Conduit in Xenoblade 2 (and by extension the Lifeholds in Xenoblade X) do resemble Xenosaga’s Zohar, and the Conduit even has a similar backstory and functions as the Zohar but until Word of God says they are connected, it’s best to assume those details were merely inspired by Xenosaga

remember Bamco still owns the rights to Xenosaga. Xenoblade is all Ninty like someone here said

If they ever do end up properly merging the series, then I could see that symbol becoming the emblem since it's in every game now. EDIT: And usually important.

 

[SharkLord]

Speaking of KOS-MOS, do you guys think she's still a possibility? Also, if she gets in, would she share the same series icon as Shulk? Cuz i feel Shulk's icon was designed specifically for Xenoblade (monado) and KOS-MOS is a Xenosaga character (i kinda know they share the same universe, but still.)

I could also see Lloyd mii hat returning with her.

Didn't we just talk about her?

Yeah, she's still a possibility, but given how Smash seems to favor the biggest series a company owns, I'd put series like Tales, Dark Souls, and Digimon far above her in terms of likelihood. Doesn't help that she's mainly focused on due to her importance to the Xeno series, which means she also has to deal with Xenoblade characters who have more recency, more Smash requests, and are actually owned by Nintendo. KOS-MOS is in a bit of a bind, from my perspective. At least she's not as dead as Klonoa

Feeding into the Xeno-series debates, I highly doubt a Xenosaga character would get the Xenoblade icon. The series is mainly connected by thematic similarities, and are still separate games owned by separate companies. It's not like the many Mega Man subseries.

 

[cashregister9]

What about extra alternate costumes (as in ones that go past the 8 count)?

I have this massive list that is 2 costumes of every character so everyone gets 10 alts

Spoiler: Here it is it is long and for some reason Alphabetical

Banjo & Kazooie:

- Conker color scheme for Banjo and Berry color scheme for Kazooie

- Banjo as the colors of Nintendo and Kazooie as the colors of Microsoft that can also resemble Dragon Kazooie

Bayonetta:

- Rosa

- A color scheme resembling Balder

Bowser:

-Dry Bowser

-Wedding Bowser

Bowser Jr.:

-Boom Boom

-Koopa Kid

Byleth:

- Elightened One M

- Enlightened One F

Captain Falcon

- Retro Captain Falcon

- Black Shadow

Chrom

- Great Lord Chrom

- Tokyo Mirage Sessions

Cloud

-Dress

-Kingdom Hearts Costume

Corrin

- Adrift M Corrin

- Adrift F Corrin

Daisy

- Daisy's Design From Mario Hoops 3 on 3

- Daisy's Design From Super Mario Strikers

Dark Pit

- A Color Scheme Resembling Pyrrhon

- A Color Scheme Resembling Thanatos

Dark Samus

- Kanden Colors

- Rundas Colors

Diddy Kong

- DK Junior Outfit

- Dixie Kong

Donkey Kong

- Funky Kong

- Boxer DK

Dr. Mario

- Dr. Luigi

- A color scheme resembling the 3 Original viruses and the 2 new

Duck Hunt

- A Toy Poodle to represent The Current Nintendog

- A color scheme resembling Wolf Link and Midna

Falco

- Color Scheme resembling Faye Spaniel

- Old Falco

Fox

- Marcus' Color Scheme

- James McCloud

Ganondorf

- Hyrule Warriors Ganondorf

- Phantom Ganon Color Scheme

Greninja

-A Proper Shiny Greninja

-A Color Scheme Resembling Froakie

Ice Climbers

- Black parkas and Blue gloves to resemble the box art

- Darker parkas with the spirtes of Nana And Popo on the back

Hero (I have way more for Hero like Anlucia but I'll just leave it like this)

- Female Erdrick

- Sofia

Ike

- Brave Ike

- Legendary Ike

Incineroar

- Color scheme resembling Kukui

- Color Scheme Resembling Mina

Inkling

- Female Octoling in the Agent 8 Gear, Red Ink

- Male Octoling with the Golden Hairpin, Octo Layer LS and Friendship Bracelet, Gold Ink

Isabelle

-Full Digby Colors

- Isabelles Casual Outfit

Jigglypuff

- Shiny Jigglypuff

- Jigglypuff with Alisters Mask and Hair

Joker

- Tatsuya's Color scheme

- Joker's Design from Dancing Star Night

Ken

- Ken's Design from Street Fighter 5

- Battle Outfit 1 from Street Fighter 5

King Dedede

- Masked Dedede

- Buff Dedede

King K. Rool

- K.Rool in his boxing uniform from DK 64

- Kolor scheme resembling Lord Fredrik

Kirby

- Shadow Kirby

- KIRB

Link

- Gerudo Outfit

- Ravio

Little Mac

- Full Super Punch Out Alt

- Fat Little Mac

Lucario

- Shiny Lucario

- Red Lucario

Lucas

- A colorscheme Resembling Hinawa and a shirt with her face

- A colorscheme resembling Porky with the Absoulutely Safe Capsule on the shirt

Lucina

- Bunny Lucina

- Brave Lucina

Luigi

- Gooigi

- Mr.L

Mario

- Fire Mario

- Summer Mario

Marth

- PANTSLESS

- Hero King Marth

Mega Man

- Helmetless Megaman

- Helmetless Colorscheme resembling Roll

Meta Knight

- Morpho Knight

- Meta Knights Color Scheme From Kirby's Adventure

Mewtwo

- Shiny Mewtwo

- Shadow Mewtwo

Mii Costumes i want

- Buck Bumble

- Freddy Fazbear Mask

Min Min

- Colors representing Dr. Coyle

- Colors representing Lola Pop

Mr. Game & Watch

- Cardboard Game & Watch

- Camo Game & Watch

Ness

- Ninten

- Pajama Ness

Olimar:

-Louie

-Brittany

Pac-ManI would put ms.pacman down but the weird copyright junk)

- Pac Man with Hat From Pac Land

- Toc Man

Palutena

- Actual Medusa

- Pseudo Palutena

Peach

- Shadow Queen From Paper Mario

- Peaches Design From Mario Golf

Pichu

- Shiny Pichu

- Pichu with The Sword and Shield Male Trainers Hat

Pikachu

- Detective Pikachu

- Sword and Shield Female Trainer Hat

Piranha Plant

-Blue Piranha Creeper colors

-Green Lipped Piranha Plant colors

Pit

- Pit with the 3 Sacred Treasures

- Pits Original Design

Pokemon Trainer

- A Color scheme resembling Victor from Sword And Shield (The Pokemon Vaguely Resemble The Galar Trio)

- A Color scheme resembling Elaine from Lets go Pikachu and evee (The Pokemon Are Their Shiny Forms)

R.O.B.

- The Navcom From Startropics

- A color Scheme Resembling The Nintendo Switch

Robin

- Grandmaster Male Robin

- Grima Female Robin

Rosalina

- A color scheme resembling Pauline

- A Color scheme resembling Kammela

Roy

- Legendary Roy

- Brave Roy

Richter

- PSP Richter

- Casual richter from Rondo Of Blood

Ridley

- Zebesian Color Scheme

- Mother Brain Color Scheme

Ryu

- Evil Ryu

- A Color resembling Gouken

Samus

- Sylux Colors

- PED Suit

Sephiroth

-Kingdom Hearts

-Genesis Colors

Sheik

- Stealth Set dyed White

- Stealth Set dyed Peach

Shulk

- Field Armor

- Future Connected

Simon Belmont

- Castlevania Chronicles Simon

- Castlevania Judgement Simon

Solid Snake

- Venom Snake

- Snake From MGS 4

Sonic

- Classic Sonic

- Metal Sonic

Steve

- Skeleton

- Jessie

Terry

-Fatal Cutie

-Garou MOTW Outfit

Toon Link

- Pajama Toon Link

- Conductor Toon Link

Villager

- The Female Villager that appears on the boxart of Happy Home Designer

- The Default Villager in Mario Kart 8

Wario

- Wario's D.I.Y. Design

- Red Monochrome Plumber Wario to resemble VB Warioland

Wii Fit Trainer

- Purple Female

- Purple Male

Wolf

- a color scheme that resembles General Scales

- a color scheme resembling Wolf's design from Brawl

Yoshi

- Black Yoshi

- Boshi

Young Link

- Zelda 1 Color scheme

- Fierce Diety

Zelda

- Hilda

- Tetra Color Scheme

Zero Suit Samus

- ZSS design from metroid 1 with green hair and leotard

- White version of the 8th alt

Yeah some of them are not perfect or don't make sense it is more just an outlet for ideas.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

What about extra alternate costumes (as in ones that go past the 8 count)?

My picks would be:

Luigi: Mr. L

Link: Gerudo Armor, CD-i

Ganondorf: TP Ganondorf

Zero Suit Samus: Justin Bailey leotard

Meta Knight: Maskless

Mewtwo: Anime armor

Captain Falcon: Bart Lemming (his civilian identity from the anime)

Ness: Ninten

Marth: FE1 Toga

Snake: Old Snake

Sonic: All of his upgrades from Sonic Adventure 2

Ryu: Evil Ryu

Simon: Castlevania Judgment incarnation

Hero: DQ4 Female Hero

Banjo-Kazooie: Dragon Kazooie, Nuts-and-Bolts Banjo-Kazooie

Cloud: Cloudette disguise

Mega Man: Helmetless

I would also like to add Peach, daisy, and Rosalina's biker suits, but I don't know if they'd mesh well enough with their animations and moves that involve their skirts (such as the float ability).

I know that this is a lot of work, but I think that the Zelda franchise could have easily more costumes consdiering that the design changes a lot between each game. What I would like:

Link: Twilight princess, Hyrule warriors, shirtless (from botw)
Toon link: Minish cap, Wind waker pajama
Zelda: Botw, Twilight princess, Hyrule warriors, Skyward sword, Toon Zelda
Ganondorf: Twilight princess, Hyrule warriors
Sheik: Hyrule warriors

Others that I would like:
Mega man: pink alt like Gravity man
Pac-man: Miss pac-man
Olimar/Alph: Louie, Brittany (could work as an echo but since Alph is an alt might as well add the others as skin).
Peach, Daisy and Rosalina: Mario tennis costumes
Bowser: Dry bowser

 

[ShrimpScampi]

surprise frickers I wanna talk Shantae. Not Reimu, surprisingly.

This is only somewhat related to Shantae, but there aren't currently any Jake Kaufman tracks in Smash, right? I remember Grant Kirkhope making the Banjo-Kazooie remix for Banjo's pack was a big deal because he was one of the first composers (if not the first, I don't remember which) from overseas who worked on a remix for Smash.

There are a ton of Jake Kaufman tracks that would be amazing in Smash -- with a Shantae Challenger Pack, there's stuff like Burning Town (Pirate's Curse has my favorite remix), or basically any of the Half-Genie Hero level themes. And to be honest, I kinda wish we had a Shovel Knight track or two in the "etc" category to go with the AT in the base game.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Y’all ever just

think about the time a certain douchebag named Alberto tagged Harada while other For Smash Twitter accounts supporting the likes of Sora, Doom Guy, Master Chief, Jonesy, and Arle were sharing memes with each other and Harada had the mother of all Diva Moments threatening to blacklist them from Smash?

pass 2 was finalized in January right? And the incident happened in 2019

what if those characters were indeed blacklisted...?

 

[JOJONumber691]

What about extra alternate costumes (as in ones that go past the 8 count)?

My picks would be:

Luigi: Mr. L

Link: Gerudo Armor, CD-i

Ganondorf: TP Ganondorf

Zero Suit Samus: Justin Bailey leotard

Meta Knight: Maskless

Mewtwo: Anime armor

Captain Falcon: Bart Lemming (his civilian identity from the anime)

Ness: Ninten

Marth: FE1 Toga

Snake: Old Snake

Sonic: All of his upgrades from Sonic Adventure 2

Ryu: Evil Ryu

Simon: Castlevania Judgment incarnation

Hero: DQ4 Female Hero

Banjo-Kazooie: Dragon Kazooie, Nuts-and-Bolts Banjo-Kazooie

Cloud: Cloudette disguise

Mega Man: Helmetless

I would also like to add Peach, daisy, and Rosalina's biker suits, but I don't know if they'd mesh well enough with their animations and moves that involve their skirts (such as the float ability).

Honestly, the DQ4 Sofia (yes that's her name) would've been chosen if it weren't for the pricks at CERO lol

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Honestly, the DQ4 Sofia (yes that's her name) would've been chosen if it weren't for the pricks at CERO lol

Eh, her outfit isn’t THAT bad. Just cover the cleavage some more. CERO hates sideboob exposure and pantyshots/looking like someone’s going commando hence no Mai

 

[Technomage]

Honestly, the DQ4 Sofia (yes that's her name) would've been chosen if it weren't for the pricks at CERO lol

Yeah, that's disappointing; her clothing didn't seem that revealing to me.