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[Asdioh]

@soupa: with the number of BBcode mistakes you've been making, you might want to click "go advanced" and "Preview Post" before you post proofreading

@Asdioh, Tandora, Gheb - thoughts on JTB

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*trying to iso because I can't even begin to remember anything he's said*


...ok. Thoughts on him? He voted Soupa because he didn't approve of No Lynch, and he's talked about Radical's potential posting restriction and told Soupa not to edit posts. No content there, though the "anti no-lynch" stance might be deemed as... I don't even know. Usually people say no lynch is anti town, despite the fact that the majority of the time it's going to kill a townie for no reason. So yeah he could be displaying a townie standpoint there... maybe.


I must say that Radical's posting of only pictures makes it hard as hell to do an iso on him.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

unvote

Soupamario, you posted that you play Epic Mafia while I was making my post, so I hadn't seen it when I posted. I hope you can see why I jumped on you.

I can see why he jumped on me, however when i fought back he did quickly subside to it all.

 

[Vult Redux]

@Vult, RoxPSI - thoughts on Gheb/Soup/Me

I didn't like your post 119, but I wouldn't say that you are on my "To Lynch" list.

I would tentatively place Soup and Gheb as Town.

 

[JTB]

I can see why he jumped on me, however when i fought back he did quickly subside to it all.

I assume this post is to me, right?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

very much so.

 

[JTB]

I called you out because I thought it was odd that you voted no lynch. The point of me voting you was to find out why and you gave an answer that satisfied me, so I unvoted. I felt like it was too early to take a strong stance on someone, especially with very little information to go off of.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I didn't like your post 119, but I wouldn't say that you are on my "To Lynch" list.

I would tentatively place Soup and Gheb as Town.

10xwtf chars

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I take this opportunity to apologize for being on the wrong account. Rusty Guillotine is hella active and demanding a lot of attention. I keep forgetting to swap back because I am still thinking about it.

 

[JTB]

Ryker, I would suggest to use a 2nd browser for Radical Fiction, that way you don't have to worry about logging in and out in order to post.

 

[RoxPSI]

This post was made as of #159

Hello everyone, sorry for the late reply; this is the first time we have been able to actually sit down and discuss gameplay for today. We've been reading the game for the past 30 minutes and have come to a few conclusions about the way things have been panning out.

Kuz's wagon seemed to have happened a bit too fast and the reasons for it seems generally speaking, silly.

The main reason for Gheb's push was for Kuz skimming. I personally (Roxy PoV) don't see how Kuz's first question was vocally explained, considering the main basis of your conversation was with Soupamario, it seems a great deal of your views are indirect, and clarification would need to be made in them; Post 63 especially. You say this is something that mafia would do, and Soupamario didn't do it, so indirectly this is a town tell in your eyes correct; you never directly said this, and it's easy to see how Kuz could've missed this.

To us, your reads on soupamario in particular seems very vague, and a clarification as to if Soupamario is town or scum in your eyes would be great. We're glad you're taking the time to play as an IC; it's helpful from a general gameplaying perspective, but we would like to see more of you as a player and not as an IC. Our read on Gheb_01 right now is null.

Soupamario bugs us, no offence, but it's clear to us that he is not a player we would want end game. He has a a lot of habits that are common with Epic Mafia players. No lynching day is the most common, but other ones are being easily moved and lead by calm players (gheb), and strongly disgusted by pushy players (kuz). Unless someone really pushes up red flags, we feel that at this time he is the play.

vote: Soupamario

Our read on him is null, considering he could be playing noob town, scum acting as noob town, etc. However in the end he will be a detriment.

Vult Redux - You asked us if any of us caught what Radical Fiction said; instead of doing this, why didn't you openly show what was wrong with it and why? You would think for all skill levels of town, you would want the information to be easily accessible and available. Could you go into more detail about what you saw?

Tandora - Your only conversation has been really with people who have questioned you, and Soupamario; could you post more please? Also, do you feel Gheb second-handily (if this was the case) adding Ryker into his comments with you is bad in any way? If not, why did you bring it up? If so, how?

Kuz - My second half is gone and we didn't get much conversation in about you; I (roxy) have problems putting a finger on what you are; I feel you're pushing in the right direction, however skimming is not a good look on your part; regardless of how indirect gheb's info is. Leaning towards town, but ever so slightly.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I never cared if i bugged people, so, as i have always said, deal with it.

anyways.

Our read on him is null, considering he could be playing noob town, scum acting as noob town, etc. However in the end he will be a detriment.

I am coherently offended by this, how am i acting noob town?

is noob town someone who tries to help, someone who makes fairly valid points, someone who actually replies when asked?

yeah, next time, i'll just lurk if it makes you happy. >.>

i don't care if you vote me, but atleast state why i am acting so 'noob town'

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

another thing:

Soupamario bugs us, no offence, but it's clear to us that he is not a player we would want end game. He has a a lot of habits that are common with Epic Mafia players. No lynching day is the most common, but other ones are being easily moved and lead by calm players (gheb), and strongly disgusted by pushy players (kuz). Unless someone really pushes up red flags, we feel that at this time he is the play.

Why would you not want me end game? explain.

also, i said i was impressed with Gheb's humbleness and expectancy to replying in a good manner, and i am not all disgusted with Kuz, please see my posts before you regard something as such.

 

[RoxPSI]

I wish you would take no offense to it, however you must understand how we are portraying the situation.

You have done two things that has thrown red flags to us. The first one being your no lynch comment in the beginning of the game, while this is easily ignored in it's own right, the fact you came from EM and haven't thought about the differences of forum mafia is a huge problem. There's no mylo nl's to lylo because fact of the matter is, we are not -sure- of how many anti-town factions there are. This among anything, make us consider you a newbie; you are not used to the forum mafia's way of play yet.

You have also pushed to discuss potentially outing town PRs. If you're of town faction, you should be keeping any potential speculation of who is a power role out of conversation, helping power roles stay safe. We wondered "why did he consider him potentially a pr, and not a mafia member lurking?" You're not looking good to us, but these might merely be mistakes. Either way, we don't want this end-game and this is the best time to take care of that.



Our feelings stay.

 

[RoxPSI]

EBWOP: You took the effort to turn around and vote for the same person the person you're impressed with voted for, and you even used a bit of crude (not exactly nsfw, but crude) language for your reasons to vote.

Late game requires people who are willing to look back, assess the situation, and make a decision on their own of what to do; we feel that you will be easily moved, and this is not good, considering it's a matter of who sweet talks you better; not who gives better more solid information.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

You have done two things that has thrown red flags to us. The first one being your no lynch comment in the beginning of the game, while this is easily ignored in it's own right, the fact you came from EM and haven't thought about the differences of forum mafia is a huge problem. There's no mylo nl's to lylo because fact of the matter is, we are not -sure- of how many anti-town factions there are. This among anything, make us consider you a newbie; you are not used to the forum mafia's way of play yet.

First part: i apologize.
Second part: i did not consider, i am left out in the open but i really assume there is quite possibly a doc, if not a cop.
Third part: guilty, but i am enjoying myself anyways.

You have also pushed to discuss potentially outing town PRs. If you're of town faction, you should be keeping any potential speculation of who is a power role out of conversation, helping power roles stay safe. We wondered "why did he consider him potentially a pr, and not a mafia member lurking?" You're not looking good to us, but these might merely be mistakes. Either way, we don't want this end-game and this is the best time to take care of that.

It was my opnion, simple as this.

Honestly, i see your point, i have been way too talkative and too assertive towards everything, and really, he could be, he switched over to kuz right after Gheb did.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

You took the effort to turn around and vote for the same person the person you're impressed with voted for, and you even used a bit of crude (not exactly nsfw, but crude) language for your reasons to vote.

Late game requires people who are willing to look back, assess the situation, and make a decision on their own of what to do; we feel that you will be easily moved, and this is not good, considering it's a matter of who sweet talks you better; not who gives better more solid information.

Sometimes, you have to use the stick, i thought a quick crude gesture would be a good provoke.

I have looked back in fact:

one thing that worries me is this:

When gheb voted Kuz, i bw'ed and radical did too.

i only bw'ed because i thought Gheb made good points, and kuz did not yet talk to me, and honestly, i stay strong with kuz being scum.

I'm not easily moved at all, in fact, i pre-stated i am a WIFOMER, do not assume anything.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

some things to look at:

 

[Vult Redux]

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It is easy to assume that I'm new and that I think that Gheb is Town because he can IC well and criticize that, isn't it?

Could you explain why DatHydra is a better vote than JTB?

Vote: Radical Fiction

Vult Redux - You asked us if any of us caught what Radical Fiction said; instead of doing this, why didn't you openly show what was wrong with it and why? You would think for all skill levels of town, you would want the information to be easily accessible and available. Could you go into more detail about what you saw?

I thinkyou misread my post.

I explained what I didn't like and was looking to see whether anyone agreed. Sorry if it wasn't worded well.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I don't know who to vote for HELP!!! ):

(see I am useless don't kill me this me this time!!1)

Possible WIFOM, i believe it was a joke, but just saying.

Soupamario: Voting no lynch is almost always bad for town. I'll let it go because of EM, but IGMEOY.

Gheb: Why are you playing IC? It looks like you're trying to set yourself up as town leader, for all that you're advising people not to sheep. Also, I (smarg) wholeheartedly disagree that cases are always scummy. They certainly can be scummy, but a well-phrased, well thought out case isn't. It's when you try to make it look like more than it is or use bad logic that the case is scummy.

Without cases, how do you persuade everyone else that the person you find scummy is scum? What distinguishes a case from a post pointing out a scumslip? I'd argue that's just a mini-case.

Vult: WTF? FOS: Vult

Right after Vult said that silly comment, smar FOSes him, i can see his reasoning, but i think it was a joke.

I like this point, and thus why i am null.

I think lots of WIFOM is going on, and also that I shouldn't go back on my word or it'd look bad.

Vote: Soupamario

I also like this point, even though it is towards me.

Asdioh needs a bit more opnionative stances though.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

darn i suck so much at BBcode. =/

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I like you.

The stuff on JTB is accurate, and perturbs me a bit.

Worry less about his vote of me. Senseless wagoning D1 is the spice of life.

Both Vult and Hydra have focused on JTB from now on, just for something silly as a misread, and now we have all took out attention off of kuz/seik.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

and once again, i have attracted the attention of the hydra gang.

 

[DatHydra]

Does that bother you? Do you think my wagon had enough substance to warrant more votes? Why are you so adverse to JTB attention?

 

[hidajiremi]

Wow. I confirm at work, come home to have some dinner, and by bedtime there's already four pages to catch up with. I can't decide if I'm impressed or just annoyed. Haven't caught up yet, but from what I've seen so far, there seems to be a lot of Soupamario going "OMG! Gheb is talking a lot, Y SO SUSPICIOUS?" Goodness knows, as a newer player, I appreciate any insight a more experienced player can offer, as long as it's done without being rude or offensive. I haven't played a lot of games on forum so far, but I'm already sick and tired of people screaming that someone sucks or is stupid instead of just explaining why they disagree with them. (Not that I'm saying Soupamario is doing that mind you, just that I'm glad Gheb isn't.)

Anyway, more detailed analysis and ideas when I get up. I do thinking better on more than four hours of sleep.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Yes, honestly, yes it does.

because it was nothing to really look at, he apologized for his actions and it should be just let go.

I'm not, he just hasn't said anything that's really scummy, if he were to talk more, i could have better reads, simple as that.

another thing, Rox, you say you do not want me endgame, considering if you were mafia, if you were to kill me, you would be marked as immediate scum.

 

[Asdioh]

darn i suck so much at BBcode. =/

apparently lol. post outside the [ /quote] areas.

Asdioh needs a bit more opnionative stances though.

You caught me. I point out the obvious too much. Thanks for spelling my name right.

This post was made as of #159

Hello everyone, sorry for the late reply; this is the first time we have been able to actually sit down and discuss gameplay for today. We've been reading the game for the past 30 minutes and have come to a few conclusions about the way things have been panning out.

Kuz's wagon seemed to have happened a bit too fast and the reasons for it seems generally speaking, silly.

The main reason for Gheb's push was for Kuz skimming. I personally (Roxy PoV) don't see how Kuz's first question was vocally explained, considering the main basis of your conversation was with Soupamario, it seems a great deal of your views are indirect, and clarification would need to be made in them; Post 63 especially. You say this is something that mafia would do, and Soupamario didn't do it, so indirectly this is a town tell in your eyes correct; you never directly said this, and it's easy to see how Kuz could've missed this.

To us, your reads on soupamario in particular seems very vague, and a clarification as to if Soupamario is town or scum in your eyes would be great. We're glad you're taking the time to play as an IC; it's helpful from a general gameplaying perspective, but we would like to see more of you as a player and not as an IC. Our read on Gheb_01 right now is null.

Soupamario bugs us, no offence, but it's clear to us that he is not a player we would want end game. He has a a lot of habits that are common with Epic Mafia players. No lynching day is the most common, but other ones are being easily moved and lead by calm players (gheb), and strongly disgusted by pushy players (kuz). Unless someone really pushes up red flags, we feel that at this time he is the play.

vote: Soupamario

Ok, I didn't expect it to happen, but I really agree with RoxPSI on most points. If he (they) keeps playing like this I'm going to like him a lot more than his performance in other games.
The only thing I don't like is trying to make him the play so early. The reason I don't like it is because we have what, 3 players that haven't posted yet? I don't want them to come in late and see a bandwagon well underway and be able to join it without having to give their own opinions so that we can get reads on them.

 

[DatHydra]

@RoxPSI, Don't get to caught up on Soup's NL thing. It was an honest mistake, leave it at that. I agree on him being easily swayed, though.

i stay strong with kuz being scum.

Why am I scum besides than my 119? That seems to be the only thing you can bring up on me at the present. Or is that were impressed by Gheb's posting style and simply followed him onto my wagon?

Honestly, i see your point, i have been way too talkative and too assertive towards everything, and really, he could be, he switched over to kuz right after Gheb did.

And so did you. Buts its okay when you do that, right?

 

[DatHydra]

Yes, honestly, yes it does.

because it was nothing to really look at, he apologized for his actions and it should be just let go.

I'm not, he just hasn't said anything that's really scummy, if he were to talk more, i could have better reads, simple as that.

Soup's protip of the day: When noobscum apologizes, their actions should be let go.

I am in no way calling JTB noobscum. Or maybe I am, I have completely forgotten by now.

 

[smarboy69]

Barely skimmed jack s***. But hey. That's why I'm a hydra, right?

I don't care what alignment Swiker is. He's staying in the game cuz he makes me lol with his little pics. Def Moriarty status.

I'll read tomorrow and come up with something that'll make you go woah look at dat mang he's so town I just want em till the end.

Yea. I'm bored. Sue me.

Oh, and I was gonna say something along the lines of on my d***, but I remembered that my hydra has a d*** and a p****... So .

Oh, and nice censor dodge Radial. Contacting Sold2 as I type.

You thought this post would have something useful? You were wrong.

Till tomorrow, good fellas. Good night.

 

[DatHydra]

Wow. I confirm at work, come home to have some dinner, and by bedtime there's already four pages to catch up with. I can't decide if I'm impressed or just annoyed. Haven't caught up yet, but from what I've seen so far, there seems to be a lot of Soupamario going "OMG! Gheb is talking a lot, Y SO SUSPICIOUS?" Goodness knows, as a newer player, I appreciate any insight a more experienced player can offer, as long as it's done without being rude or offensive. I haven't played a lot of games on forum so far, but I'm already sick and tired of people screaming that someone sucks or is stupid instead of just explaining why they disagree with them. (Not that I'm saying Soupamario is doing that mind you, just that I'm glad Gheb isn't.)

Case in point. Lots of info to read, harder to jump in.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

it is not just because your 119, it is because right after you 119, you lurked all that time, then make a jab at me to prod me, and you still insist to prod me, Gheb has no longer said anything and i feel he is playing the lurking card now himself because he knows he has pointed me at you, yet i am hesistant to fire.

I was indeed naive about gheb, but i am still null about it.

No, it's not, but you jabbed me and i jabbed back, and considering everyone started to bw i thought "okay maybe if i bw noone will call me scum."

 

[DatHydra]

considering everyone started to bw i thought "okay maybe if i bw noone will call me scum."

......

did you just claim scum?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

"OMG! Gheb is talking a lot, Y SO SUSPICIOUS?" Goodness knows, as a newer player, I appreciate any insight a more experienced player can offer, as long as it's done without being rude or offensive

i never even said that, lol, i said i cannot simply say that gheb is town.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@ DatHydra

Yup, dawg, you got me, you are such a great player.

i was scum the whole time, trying to talk to everyone, apologizing for all my little mistakes, etc.

i just don't believe it!

you can stop prodding now, kuz.

 

[DatHydra]

Town should not be worried about doing things that make them appear town. Ever.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

yeah, they should, mafia can easily just point the finger at them for their mistakes.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

which you are doing.

you are using my inexperience to your advantage.

 

[DatHydra]

So let me get this straight. After Gheb and Falcon joined my wagon, the thought that went through your head was not "let me join too because I have an overwhelming scum read on kuz" but rather it was "if I join now, while others are bandwagoning, maybe people won't call me scum."

Yeah.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

no in my head it was "i see Gheb's points, and i don't like the way he posted, i'm going to vote him."

and then i was like

"but this could bite me in the ***..."
"i need to be careful, if i were to bw mafia can just call me scum on it by saying i was quick to bw.."
"i feel strong about this though, and i'm going with it."

Yeah.

 

[DatHydra]

Oh god, don't get touchy with me. My vote is not even on you are at L-5, don't start using the "I am unexperienced, you are bullying me" card already.