Dissidia Mafia: Over Serial Killer Wiins! ~ Told you $#!* got real!

[Asdioh]

I'm glad DatHydra's title includes the names of the peoples its made of, all the hydras should have that in their titles or locations


Soup and Gheb? I feel like Gheb knew or thought that a lot of the people in here are new and felt the need to show them the ropes, while trying to reassure them that that doesn't confirm him as town. Basically their exchange is just a couple of bored people at the start of a mafia game, talking as much as they can about as little as they've been given. Not really much else for me to say about it.

I'm just trying to remember the names of the people in this game for now.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I was lurking because there was no actual content to comment on. We’ve just started the game, and other people are struggling to contribute because of your incessant questioning. It’s cool that you’re eager to play, but you need to talk less and give other people a chance to jump in and give their say.

I like how you just stated questions yourself, yet you kick me down for asking questions myself.

Also, another thing, i've been looking down on this thread and i've seen people 'veiwing' the thread, but not saying anything at all.

want me to just throw a bone at them or something? i can't make people talk, but i can atleast try to contribute.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Unvote Vote: DatHydra

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

 

[Radical Fiction]

Unvote
Vote: DatHydra

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

As i see, Hydra and both kuz are now keeping tabs on this thread, good.
Unvote: Gheb_01 Vote: DatHydra

perhaps this will provoke you more to actually say stuff besides non-chalant crap.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

perhaps this will provoke you more to actually say stuff besides non-chalantcommital crap.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

thanks for the fix, and the chuckle

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

 

[DatHydra]

Unvote Vote DatHydra
Skim harder, please? Both of your questions require me to restate things that I've been pretty vocal about; especially your question regarding soup.

You have not said anything regarding Soup's alignment. Your only discussion about Soup in particular has been about his experience in EM.

Likewise, you have said what the purpose of the "newbie post" was, but not stated what impact you feel the post itself had, only the impact you leading has had.

And your reasoning for lurking is crap as is your attempt to nudge Soup. There was plenty of content to comment on, otherwise there would've no way for soup to even give us that many stances [which you also try to discourage for some reason].

To clarify, I meant content regarding scumhunting. A lot of the early conversation revolves purely around game mechanics, which isn't helping.

Soup's only stances have been a positive one regarding you, and that I am the sort of person who "attracts attention towards (myself) so (I) can then lead on it". Most of his posts have been about just you.

I like how you just stated questions yourself, yet you kick me down for asking questions myself.

Asking questions is good. It's what you should be doing. The issue wasn't that you were asking questions, but you were asking too many. The thread became a closed discussion between Gheb and yourself, with no entry point for anyone else.

Also, another thing, i've been looking down on this thread and i've seen people 'veiwing' the thread, but not saying anything at all.
want me to just throw a bone at them or something? i can't make people talk, but i can atleast try to contribute.

If you want them to talk, specifically ask those people questions. That way, you can still contribute and respond to other things, but also encourage others to contribute.


As for the amount of time its taking us to write stuff, realize that its Seik's first game and he is writing everything while I give him small corrections to make.

 

[Tandora]

Vote Tandora

Tanny, do you agree with my points here? Does any of my reasoning give you the impression that I might have the intention of misleading somebody? Maybe somebody in particular? Is there anything you would like to add or think I shouldn't have mentioned?

Same questions to Ryker.

I do agree with your points. I think they're correct and concisely made. I usually read "helpful" posts as these as they are presented aka helpful. The important thing for the rest of us to watch for is if that's all you do. I know I've used the "helpful poster" identity as scum before were my posts were more on how to play rather than drawing from how others ARE playing.

I think that it has proven as a useful tool to get conversation started.

I think it's interesting you did an RV on me. I assume to draw my attention to this post. The Ryker bit seems almost an after thought.

Radical Fiction, do you have a posting restriction involving pics? So far, I think I've only seen one post from you that did not include a pic and that was to vote for someone.

Do other people think Radical's pics are just for fun or are they intended to be distracting?

P.S. I like Swords.

 

[Tandora]

Asdioh, Glyph and Tandora: How do you feel about the Soup/Gheb exchange?

I get a T-v-T vibe.

The activity of both feels sincere to me in that they both have expected ways of playing and are confident in those ways.

An easy way to check Soup's sincerity of the first day NL is to check out Epic Mafia, but since Gheb seems to confirmed that is pretty standard there, I am taking Soup at face value at this time.

P.S. Welcome to Corneria. ^_^

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soup's only stances have been a positive one regarding you, and that I am the sort of person who "attracts attention towards (myself) so (I) can then lead on it". Most of his posts have been about just you.

duh. he's was basically the one talking when i was making my Theorys.

Asking questions is good. It's what you should be doing. The issue wasn't that you were asking questions, but you were asking too many. The thread became a closed discussion between Gheb and yourself, with no entry point for anyone else.

Nope again, when you see someone arguing, people have the nack to get into it and try to come to an agreement; or you can simply ignore it.

it seems people tried to ignore it, but they had valid points, and points to pick up on.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Hi tan. :D

 

[Tandora]

Hi tan. :D

Hello. ^_^

Do I know you? o.o

P.S. Swordchuck, YO!

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

okay serious post time:

Do other people think Radical's pics are just for fun or are they intended to be distracting?

that's what i am wondering, his posts are quite silly but i could be a way of covering himself or his mechanics, perhaps i'm looking into to it too far.

 

[DatHydra]

duh. he's was basically the one talking when i was making my Theorys.

And you think that town only having your stance on Gheb is a good thing? Just because he was the only one responding does not mean he should be the only one focused on. If you had engaged others into speaking, we would not have 100+ posts of your over analytical theories and gheb stance.

Nope again, when you see someone arguing, people have the nack to get into it and try to come to an agreement; or you can simply ignore it.

it seems people tried to ignore it, but they had valid points, and points to pick up on.

Yeah, and they obviously chose the latter. Wonder why.

 

[Asdioh]

If you want them to talk, specifically ask those people questions. That way, you can still contribute and respond to other things, but also encourage others to contribute.

I must say I do like the way Kuzi DayHydra does the "@name" business, it makes jumping in and attempting to contribute much easier when you have a question directed at you, in case you were wanting to contribute without really knowing what to say.


Is this game going to become Kuzi DatHydra vs Gheb, by any chance? I had a hunch it might when I noticed Gheb's posting style is similar to the Kuzi I've gotten used to..

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

It's better to have something then nothing, you keep trying to shut me down.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

another thing:

And you think that town only having your stance on Gheb is a good thing? Just because he was the only one responding does not mean he should be the only one focused on. If you had engaged others into speaking, we would not have 100+ posts of your over analytical theories and gheb stance.

you have contradicted yourself once more, i have had other stances besides gheb, in-fact i have stop focusing on him after i realized we were just clawing at eachother.

 

[DatHydra]

Yes, because less posting = no posting at all.

Wonderful deduction skills.


Tell me Soup, what have you discerned from your questioning? You like Gheb. Is he town? I am apparently playing the big bad villain. Am I scum?

 

[DatHydra]

you have contradicted yourself once more, i have had other stances besides gheb, in-fact i have stop focusing on him after i realized we were just clawing at eachother.

Posts, show me them.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

With 13 alive it take 7 to lynch!

[0] Glyph
[0] Tandora:
[1] Soupamario: Asdioh,
[3] DatHydra: Gheb_01, RadicalFiction, Soupamario,
[0] hidajiremi:
[0] Vult Redux:
[1] RoxPSI: DatHydra,
[0] Asdioh:
[0] Red Ryu:
[0] smarboy69:
[0] RadicalFiction:
[0] JTB:
[0] Gheb_01:
[0] No Lynch:

Not voting: Glyph, Tandora, hidajiremi, Vult Redux, RoxPSI, Red Ryu, smarboy69, JTB,

Also, Don't edit your posts Soupamario! I'm getting a mod to change it back!

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

big bad villian?

not at all, i consider you to have an opnion like everyone else, while i do think you are scummy at times, you have to look at things in other perspectives at times, i can see why you question my incessant questioning but it's one of my meta's.

I believe through some of my questioning (or the ones that have been answered) that i will have an easier read on him in later posts, you see, Kuz, i post so much to get people to talk, and then i read them, and my questioning has successfully done that.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Posts, show me them.

k.

lemme go wrap this up in a pretty box for you.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

the gheb incident.

I feel like we're clawing at eachother right now, i really do, and they just watching us go at it.

opnions on the gheb incident.

Asi, i want your opnion, since you are here, what do you think about this whole situation?

Why is radical only posting pictures?

at first i thought he was just posting pictures, perhaps there is a specifity.

I'm not sure, he voted me (jokingly i assume) and then he was talking about the null tells for what gheb is doing.

i think (and it's just a theory) that Radical is an important role, limited to his imagination for challenge.

The DatHydra Incident

Guys, instead of calling out people on not scum hunting can we, y’know, scum hunt.

While we’ve had a nice 3 pages of scumhunting so far, we should be focusing on other avenues of discussion.



I was lurking because there was no actual content to comment on. We’ve just started the game, and other people are struggling to contribute because of your incessant questioning. It’s cool that you’re eager to play, but you need to talk less and give other people a chance to jump in and give their say.


Gheb, do you believe your initial post to newer players has been beneficial to town so far?

Asdioh, Glyph and Tandora: How do you feel about the Soup/Gheb exchange?

Gheb, would you agree that Soup’s overconfident over-analytical posting style is a town tell?

Continuation on the Radical incident.

okay serious post time:


that's what i am wondering, his posts are quite silly but i could be a way of covering himself or his mechanics, perhaps i'm looking into to it too far.

k.

lemme go wrap this up in a pretty box for you.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Tanny, I don't see how Radical's pictures are distracting. He's hinting at his points pretty hard.

You have not said anything regarding Soup's alignment. Your only discussion about Soup in particular has been about his experience in EM.

In post 63 I clearly state that Soup is doing exactly the opposite of what a scumbag would've done imo. Proof you're skimming.

Likewise, you have said what the purpose of the "newbie post" was, but not stated what impact you feel the post itself had, only the impact you leading has had.

And had you actually read through the discussion between me and Soup you might've realized that a major purpose of that post was to generate discussion, which is *proven* successful by now.

To clarify, I meant content regarding scumhunting. A lot of the early conversation revolves purely around game mechanics, which isn't helping.

Who's to say the discussion we've had hasn't been helpful? I think my reads on you, Soup and Radical - based on the discussion we've head - are pretty solid and helpful for further progress of the game. Why are you nudging the idea that it's useless?

Soup's only stances have been a positive one regarding you, and that I am the sort of person who "attracts attention towards (myself) so (I) can then lead on it". Most of his posts have been about just you.

But you didn't say he's talking too much about me specifically [which would've been a fallacy anyway] but that he's talking too much in general. That's just flat-out misleading.

 

[DatHydra]

not at all, i consider you to have an opnion like everyone else, while i do think you are scummy at times, you have to look at things in other perspectives at times, i can see why you question my incessant questioning but it's one of my meta's.

So I am only scummy at time? Where were those times? If you acknowledge that my perspective of your questioning is foolish, then why am I scum for it? Also, self-metaing does not do jack **** in convincing me of anything.

I believe through some of my questioning (or the ones that have been answered) that i will have an easier read on him in later posts, you see, Kuz, i post so much to get people to talk, and then i read them, and my questioning has successfully done that.

Except heres what you dont get. They are not getting other people to talk more, they are only stifling them. They are only falling farther and farther behind in this game because there is so much nonsense mixed in with content to read.

Now let me tell it to you straight soup. I think you're town, and I am taking your over-eagerness and posting style as a town tell. However, I am telling you as a fellow townie that your plan for getting others to talk is not spectacular, and I am sure others agree.

You also dodged my question regarding whether I am scum and Gheb is town. I am not asking for how you view us something, I am asking your hard stance on us.

 

[DatHydra]

the gheb incident. --> Gheb



opnions on the gheb incident. --> Gheb



Why is radical only posting pictures? --> Where is your stance on him? You summarize what he has done thus far and say, reachingly, that you think he is a pr. Thats not a stance.


The DatHydra Incident --> I am scummy sometimes, still no stance on my alignment


Continuation on the Radical incident. --> Still no stance. Is he playing town or anti-town thus far? Or is he null. You have just been summarizing, not giving stances

stuff all in the quote

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

So I am only scummy at time? Where were those times? If you acknowledge that my perspective of your questioning is foolish, then why am I scum for it? Also, self-metaing does not do jack **** in convincing me of anything.

At time, yes, people can change how they act according to the situation, there is never straight-faces with anyone, as of right now.

The times i considered you scummy was your very first post, but i think that may i have been bias because Gheb made a good impression on me at the beggining of the game.

Except heres what you dont get. They are not getting other people to talk more, they are only stifling them. They are only falling farther and farther behind in this game because there is so much nonsense to read.

i wouldn't say it was nonsense perhaps FMPOV, in fact, here, what do you guys think about that whole ordeal? did it help?

Now let me tell it to you straight soup. I think you're town, and I am taking your over-eagerness and posting style as a town tell. However, I am telling you as a fellow townie that your plan for getting others to talk is not spectacular, and I am sure others agree.

thanks for the gesture, but i do what i do.

Also here:
I don't care what people think, but sorry Kuz, my gut goes with scum right now.
Gheb to me is 50/50.

 

[DatHydra]

Why are you apologizing lmao?

So you acknowledge that you only have one stance thus far? Why null on Gheb, if I got anything out of the first few pages, it was that you had a town read on him. With all this posting, I am your only stance because of my entry post into the game (you even acknowledge that this may only be because Gheb voted me and he left a good impression on you)?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Oh, you ninjaed on me kuz, my stance on Radical is that the certain posts he makes:

He points out that certain fact, and now it seems he is gonna keep close tabs on him, yet..he is quite silent, and posts rarely, usually pr's stay low as possible.

 

[DatHydra]

He points out that certain fact, and now it seems he is gonna keep close tabs on him, yet..he is quite silent, and posts rarely, usually pr's stay low as possible.

Not always. A townie with little connections going into the Night gets killed just as much as the one that is extremely vocal about his opinions.

 

[JTB]

Soupa, you really need to stop editing your posts, even if you make an error in them. Just correct yourself in your next post or else you are going to get punished by the mod.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

ahh. i'm sorry ://

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Anyways back to kuzzaaii.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Why are you apologizing lmao?

So you acknowledge that you only have one stance thus far? Why null on Gheb, if I got anything out of the first few pages, it was that you had a town read on him. With all this posting, I am your only stance because of my entry post into the game (you even acknowledge that this may only be because Gheb voted me and he left a good impression on you)?

I'm a nice person, deal with it.

I'm null on gheb because the way he has acted, he posted IC stuff but..he was trying to lead..HOWEVER..he states some certain things that worry me such as "i'm the most experienced here" or "i'm the best scumhunter here" or "i could be manipulating you all" he could, no doubt about it, so that is why i am null about it.

 

[Vult Redux]

Vult: WTF? FOS: Vult

Can you elaborate more on the reasoning behind the FOS?

Why not a vote?

I'm curious about Radical's posts, is it safe to assume that he is only allowed to post pictures (except when voting)? If so, what can that show about his role?

It's intentional; not a post-restriction:

Pftchchchchchchch

Does anyone else feel like Radical Fiction latched onto something really good with JTB [see posts 70 and 84], but wasn't thorough with his attack at all and dropped it really quickly to jump on DatHydra without any sort of explanation (earlier in the game he was consistent with giving his stances though humor/pictures).

 

[DatHydra]

Regardless, this type of back and forth is the stuff I did not want happening, because it shuts out others.

Anything else to add JTB?

@Asdioh, Tandora, Gheb - thoughts on JTB
@Vult, RoxPSI - thoughts on Gheb/Soup/Me

 

[DatHydra]

Does anyone else feel like Radical Fiction latched onto something really good with JTB [see posts 70 and 84], but wasn't thorough with his attack at all and dropped it really quickly to jump on DatHydra without any sort of explanation (earlier in the game he was consistent with giving his stances though humor/pictures).

I like you.

The stuff on JTB is accurate, and perturbs me a bit.

Worry less about his vote of me. Senseless wagoning D1 is the spice of life.