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Disney Sing-A-Long Mafia - GAME OVER, IT'S A HAPPY ENDING FOR DISNEY!

John2k4

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I had no clue TB doesn't like being called FB until a few freaking posts ago.
 

T-block

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Sorry Vinyl. - you want me to respond to this post? I didn't respond because it seemed like others had already given a response.

Thanks for the noobtowm read. You mean a list of people that should be lynched right? Welp, here:

T-Block
#1214

John2k4
If T-Block flips town, I'll join in on lynching this guy. If T-Block flips scum, then I'll let this guy off until further notice, which means if he does/posts something I would find suspicious.
I'll be questioning him more either way.


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That's pretty much it, but I'll be asking J questions on D4.

And to add something else about t-block giving out a reason by quoting soup's reason (lol), it is something I mark interest.
Why would T-Block say john's is scum because and quote soupscum's reason of why john's scum?

It could be that soup suspects John to be an indie? Well that was already taken care of, hasn't it?
Rake's indie after all and was killed at night by scum.

Could it be that he's voting John, and John is soup's scumbuddy?
Well, that's less likely to happen. It can still go out like that, but it's pretty rare, isn't it?

What do you guys think?
I'm not saying John is scum because of Soup's reasoning. I'm saying Soup's vote on John at that point in the game was weird. It does indeed look like a scummate voting another scummate, which is not at all rare. Don't clear John based off of this.
 

John2k4

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"I knew it would get you killed, you should still do it though"

I don't even have words for this ****ing game anymore.
 

Vinylic.

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We should probably end this freeblock fiasco and at least be a little more sincere, john.
Being like that really hurting the good vibes from this game.


@T-Block: It's still a probability that john might be town nonetheless. I would still want to be alive and checked on tomorrow, and then do a mass claim if necessary. No joke.
 

T-block

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Vinyl, not gonna lie, I still have a lot of trouble understanding what you're saying half the time.

It's possible that every slot is town. But John is simply most likely to be scum at this point.
 

#HBC | J

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For the love of Christ. What is going on in this game?

Ugh this is super to wake up to but getting to it in a bit.

John get your vote off yourself, now.

:phone:
 

John2k4

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For the love of Christ. What is going on in this game?

Ugh this is super to wake up to but getting to it in a bit.

John get your vote off yourself, now.

:phone:
No.

I'm sick of all the **** that has been flying around lately. The last game I was able to genuinely enjoy was OS All-Stars with Joey. A good chink of DGames sees me as complete ****, and there is no way to change it. I try to do better, I get no input. I try to play in a different style, and it is used against me.

Please just vote me so that I can end my last commitment here and take my permanent leave.
 

#HBC | J

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John, I'm not voting a town-read, that's just not logical. Also John, I apologize if you feel that way in terms of DGames, but there is a way to change it if you feel people are getting on you for the way you play. I mean, personally, I don't find you that terrible.

John if you are town, you are playing against your win-con to be voting yourself in this situation and it's just meh. I know exactly the position you are in and feeling because I've had games where I've been trashed by other players for saying I was terrible in the past. However, you just gotta ignore them and play because you want to because it's a game. People are gonna be mean sometimes because it just happens to be in their nature but you gotta push through that. The only way I got better and got to the position I'm in is because I kept trying and trying to get better.

So get your vote off of yourself and help me win this game.
 

John2k4

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Yeah, play as I want.
I can bring you loads of games where I did that and got completely ****ed because of it, both in play and postgame.


I've heard all of the "mafia is serious, they'll be mean, etc" kind of stuff. I know it and understand it. What I don't understand is how many people [without using names] have to be ***holes in every game with me. I try to learn, I try to change my playstyle, I try to get better. Nothing has worked in the past, and I'm pretty ****ing sure that means the future ain't going to be any different.
 

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john, i think you're a cool guy - one of the nicest on SWF. but looking at your play this game and paper mario, you absolutely deserve all the **** thrown at you. you can't complain about not getting better or people not giving you input when you put literally no effort into the games you join.

if that frustration is real, let's talk more in post-game
 

#HBC | J

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John, it may seem dark now and yeah some people really need to stop being ***holes to other players in order to "teach" them because that doesn't teach anyone anything unless you go the theories "tough love/gotta introduce them to real aspects" which is bull IMO. God haha.

*live-topic*

Whoa @TB. No way in hell can you say John deserves all that gets thrown at him. However, one thing you are correct this is more a convo for post-game.

@John: Tell me your win-con.
 

T-block

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i said based on this game and paper mario, which are the last two games i've seen him in.

anyways, i hope this isn't distracting you from delivering what you promised, j ^^
 

#HBC | J

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It's not haha. I just find this more important at the moment. ;P

I still think you should die toDay, TB. I really don't get why you chose the uphill battle of my lynch>John's though.
 

John2k4

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I've tried to leave all of this for post-game. I tried to say earlier that I didn't want to go this route. But then **** snapped, and everything blew up.

J - Win when all threats to the Disney folks have been eliminated.
 

John2k4

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Rake was a past threat.
Soup was a past threat.

I felt Inferno was for a little while, but lately he's been better.
Complete ditto for T-Block.

Mac is okay.
J is okay.

Apart from those, I have nothing.
 

#HBC | J

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Then why aren't you voting those who you feel are threats than voting someone you should know is a complete non-threat to your win-con?
 

John2k4

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Because vanilla town can't do **** other than talk smack to other players. They make great dummies for NKils, and nothing else.
If I'm getting ****ed out and just want to vote myself to hasten my leave, then the worst town loses is a vanilla townie. No PR with special powers, just a plain vanilla townie.
 

#HBC | J

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John, VT is probably one of my favorite roles to get because you can do more without being afraid of dying/losing a town PR. Regardless of that, it doesn't mean that you should be lynched for not having anything.

And regardless of all that, you are town in your knowledge. Which means you aren't a threat to your win-con and it is extremely bad/against your win-con to have yourself die instead of scum.
 

Inferno3044

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Regardless of appeal, I still want him lynched. **** like this can be talked about post game. The self vote doesn't change anything. You voted yourself J in PM64 mafia and you were scum.

:phone:
 

#HBC | J

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I kind of just laughed a lot for something you said Tblock.

You used theatre as a reason for why I'm scum.

I am kind of dieing over here. xD
 

#HBC | J

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I suuuuuuuuuuuuck at poetry. I am studying to be an english teacher (as well as director) and it's still the bane of my existence. I mean why does it have to be shrouded in rhetorical devices or mixed-up rhyming.
 

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Because back in the day people had to be real fancy to say things like "I wanna get it in with you," "My **** is bigger than yours," and "**** you! you're a ****."

So how about John getting lynched?
 

#HBC | J

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Alright taking a break from responding to TB because Inferno's last post just triggered something in me that is making me really worried.

A big reason I dislike Inferno is that he is not looking at intent of people and just looking for people to lynch. His last post exemplifies this in him saying "IDC what John is doing, let's lynch him." unlike people like myself/Swords looking at what is actually behind his posts rather than just wanting to find a lynch. Inferno also has kept his options open (which is not a reaching statement so I don't get why he got so miffed at that). He has left himself an out onto the TB wagon and kept forcing the claim issue with me and John but Inferno had originally not had TB as as scum-read but kept wanting a claim. Why? It's different from when I was asking for claims because I was pushing for claims off my scum-reads that were made known in the thread.

Inferno hasn't been looking for scum in my opinion, but more so just looking for lynches. His play toDay has just been him going with the flow of what he believes would get the lynch. It can be shown through the way he was alright with a TB lynch until TB/Gheb started the John wagon back up and then it's like "Yeah, let's just auto-kill John, no one listen to his appeal." He even tries to use my meta for John which is a complete stretch because I have self-voted as town and mafia for gambits and the like and this does not seem like a gambit from John. He doesn't seem to be analysising things in a deeper way and looking at things incredibly surface level which leads me to believe his intentions are ingenuine.

For now, while I respond to TB:

Unvote
Vote: Inferno


Starting to feel this is a better pathway for toDay.
 

#HBC | Dancer

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Hey Clover, I see you viewing the thread, want to give us some input?

John, it's not that I dislike you, it's just that your play this game is frustrating to read in to. If you're really town, then you're giving me very little to work with here, besides a sudden AtE outburst that I'm being asked to believe in.

It's just like in Skype mafia awhile ago John, when Zen was scum, you and Joey were town, and I was a town tree stump. We ended lynching you that game (thus giving Zen the win) because you literally did nothing the whole game.

*sigh*

I hate to admit it but his outburst really does ring towny to me. I really have to reread this game, as I have a lot to think about.

Inferno don't be a robot.

@J and anyone else who has played with TB: How good is TB as scum? As town (yes this is important for my read on him)?
 

#HBC | J

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I don't know how to describe TB as scum or town. It kind of meshes for me in a mediocre could lean either way. The fact is, I am seeing him being more wrong on pretty much all his scum-reads this game as a sign of scumTB (i.e. I am town, and John is a town-read)
 

#HBC | Dancer

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Guess Clover left. Meh.

I don't know how to describe TB as scum or town. It kind of meshes for me in a mediocre could lean either way. The fact is, I am seeing him being more wrong on pretty much all his scum-reads this game as a sign of scumTB (i.e. I am town, and John is a town-read)
What changed from when you did have him as scum?

I ask you this because TB seems to have been doing his homework this game, it's just that a couple of times I think he's wrong about something (just an example, but I thought that his point about you not being able to interpret Gheb's poetry was reaching), which would worry me if he was a good player as town/mafia.
 

#HBC | J

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*shrug* I honestly don't know where TB goes on me "good or bad" list.

Oh and Clover is at a beach on vacation but I assume he is viewing from his phone.
 

#HBC | J

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Oh TB is still on my short list this game in terms of scum-reads. I am just feeling more strongly about Inferno at the moment.
 
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