T-block
B2B TST
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@Clover: Tell me why you voted me please
@Clover: Tell me why you voted me please
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Oh Gog T-Block is still trying to reach with these activity things..Invites to Deadpool mafia were sent out towards the end of D1 in this game, with the invitation explicitly stating that a high activity level would be required. John accepted, despite being behind here, promising many times to catch up in this game. He also mentions in this post that he was reading TTYD, a game that had already completed, during N1. By the start of D2, he still had not put any effort into continuing his catchup here.
This. You were supposed to have notes from D1 and yet you have still posted nothing.john just shut up lol
if you feel like posting, how about you tell me why your vote is still on me?
oh yeah, since you're caught up, can you post the notes you've been taking? do it in the next five minutes and maybe i'll think you're town.
^^TB, get to this please.i wouldnt mind a claim from you at all
When did Gheb become a "remainder" for you, and why?Like: Swords/Vinyl/Clover/John as my strong reads
Kind of like: Macman
Remainder: Inferno/Gheb
Meh. Don't hate on progress. Do you not like Vinyl's recent posts? Do they not feel townie and if so why not?Sorry for the delay guys but here are my thoughts summarized:
1.) Strongly disagree Vinyl town read from people like J and Macman [IIRC]. Those "man these 2 or 3 posts are soooo townie"-reads are almost always complete crapshots and really not worth a damn, especially on a player whom we have zero meta-information on when it comes down to how he plays with non-newbs. Krys has also been null literally all game and those two or three posts will not change my mind so soon.
2.) Clover is not clear, guys. Not to say thathe isn't a major town read but cleared is something entirely different. I might come across as nit-picky here but I feel like it may come back to haunt us if we're silly about him/her being supposedly "cleared" when that's not true at all. Let's just stick with what we *know*: Soup was scum and Rake was abductor. We can not know whether Rake actually had comparison cop abilities or if he actually had the knowledge of them being unaligned. We also have no reason to trust a confirmed scumbag so let's not assume things that we don't actually know to be true. Clover is "likely town", not "clear".
Hmmm, good read to have ahead of time. Say what you want about TB but that guy has done his homework (unlike certain other players this game, myself included). Agree with you on John to.3.) I really don't see why people think T is a better play than John all of a sudden. And that's coming from the guy who wanted T-Block dead from Day 1. Soup having tried to bus John alone is just so ... obvious that I'm baffled by how many people are willing to clear him by 2 QQ posts. I'm not letting that fly, just like I won't let the Vinyl being pro-town based on two post-thingy fly.
4.) Inferno is scum. He has to be. Based on the way he's played the "I told you so card!" toDay alone I have very little doubt about this. There is absolutely no reason for town to ever make such a comment and try to gain credit from Rake's indy flip. Only mafia would have any reason to do that. There's another post from him toDay that reeks and will comment on in my next post.
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Wtf no.I have non-newb meta w.r.t. Vinyl and have probably been watching him since he first started playing legitely.
I like the point you pointed out which I was feeling as well w.r.t. Inferno with playing the "I told you so!" card a bit too much.
The pro-town credit he's fishing for is like completely useless for a townie but very beneficial for a scumbag. Like, it's not even a comparison for whom it would be a greater benefit - it makes a million times more sense to do as scum than as town.How is inferno going on and on about being right about the indie scummy? "He would only to this as mafia." What? Why not as a town who's just trying to boast his ego?
Once again with the forgetting.BTW please no one put me at L-1 again. I don't want John to come in here and hammer.
...when he says Gheb and T-block are opposites "for sure". It's a strong newbscum tendency to take a TvT and spin it like this, especially with how he was pushing a Gheb lynch.Anyways I'm done pressuring you, if you wanna even call it that.
I will work with you since your posts improved and I'd rather catch scum than watch your slot get more murked up. I reread some of your posts after your newer ones as well. I need some firm stances and reads out of you besides the obvious clover. What do you think of Soup's post here, because it aligns with my thoughts atm.
The only one I don't agree with is how Soup has a strong town read on Clover exactly.
I want Smoth to post a bit more as well as far as reads go.
I'm reading Soup and Rake as town for the moment if I haven't already said it... T-block and Gheb are opposites for sure. Not sure about how I feel on an RF lynch myself yet.
I'm unvoting for now.
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tl;dr Freeblock wants me to get myself modkilled.can you post your spreadsheet notes please?
or just your role PM works too
On John2k4 -
His play matches his scum meta much more than his town meta:
I compared his posts in this game with both ModMafia and Paper Mario Mafia. He is showing the same timid and scared behaviour as he did as scum, whereas as town he is generally less afraid of making posts.
His other activity suggests that he is “hiding” behind being too busy to keep up with this game:
Invites to Deadpool mafia were sent out towards the end of D1 in this game, with the invitation explicitly stating that a high activity level would be required. John accepted, despite being behind here, promising many times to catch up in this game. He also mentions in this post that he was reading TTYD, a game that had already completed, during N1. By the start of D2, he still had not put any effort into continuing his catchup here.
John is not an *******. I’d like to think that if he were town, when he expresses regret and apologizes for being unable to deliver content he is being sincere. That leads me to believe he is exaggerating how little time he has to give to this game in order to avoid giving content - this links back to his scared scum mentality.
Soup’s interactions with John suggest scum distancing:
The above two points are admittedly relatively weak. This point forms the core of my reasoning on scumJohn. Read post 393 and the one following it within the context of the events current at the time. Discussion was focused on me vs. Gheb, with a wagon on Gheb and a potential wagon building on me and he decides to quote the votecount and vote John out of the blue. It looks very much like an attempt at distancing.
Moreover, look at post 486, which occurs after Gheb begins talk of an inactive lynch. His choice is Clover, not John, despite saying that John was his giving him the strongest scum vibes in post 476 - John only gets a sideline mention here. Why Clover over John? Now jump to the end of the Day, as the Shadow Moth wagon was picking up speed. Sworddancer says he would go either John or Moth. Rake says he would go either John or Moth. RF says he prefers John. The possibility of swinging the lynch to the slot on which he had a “goddamn scum-read” (post 814) was very real, yet he votes for Moth in post 728.