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[#HBC | ѕoup]

I have played one fire emblem game and that was the GBA one and I didn't even finish it. I'd say I've held up fairly well. I didn't feel like Kellam was a loss because I didn't really like his character and felt Frederick would be more of a permanent character and someone I would use. He works fine as a choke point holder also. I treat Chrom/Sumia as my hard-hitters because their combined speed makes it so they can bumrush an enemy and come out victorious every time, and then Crits guy for the same effect with support from Avatar/Virion. I treat Vaike/Stahl and Frederick as clean-up characters for the most part. I let donnel die in the paralouge because I didn't feel I was gonna use him, and even if he gets good I would have probably swapped him for someone else later on.

Chapter 5 was tough, you're given one measly small space on a three-dynamic map being massively outnumbered in the beginning, along with having to rescue Maribelle and Ricken who will drop faster than a sack of potatoes if you don't use rescue them properly. It was a huge spike in difficulty compared to previous chapters, and I did it all by myself anyways so don't give me that 'get gud kid' crap, Swords.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

and I did it all by myself anyways so don't give me that 'get gud kid' crap, Swords.

FE isn't really a game series meant for guides anyways, unless you're literally just following the moves from the guide step by step. At that point though I don't really see the point of playing the game, mainly because you're not really playing anymore.

I heard that mafia makes you gud at FE. You could join Monster mafia and perhaps you'll become and expert FE player!

I jest soup. I died a lot during my initial (and so far only) play through of Awakening. It's just that I almost never let my characters die, so three character deaths only on chapter 6 takes me aback somewhat.

 

[Raziek]

IDK about the rest of you, but I played FE as a perfectionist from Day 1, and that's EXACTLY how I liked it.

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It's not QUITE an S-Rank, but dangit, I was fairly close.

Also, Soup, if you request it, I can chew you out for all your mistakes and give you COPIOUS amounts of information on how to min-max, but I'm refraining from doing so because I suspect you'd rather just enjoy it at your own pace.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

People who haven't beaten FE4, FE5, FE6 HM and FE7 HM have no business talking down to others about their FE achievements imo.

Edit: That's in response to Sworddancer being a jerk to soup.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

People have no business talking down to others about thir FE achievements imo.

I heartily concur

 

[ranmaru]

I should really get to playing all those in the summer. ;-; schoooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

IDK about the rest of you, but I played FE as a perfectionist from Day 1, and that's EXACTLY how I liked it.

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It's not QUITE an S-Rank, but dangit, I was fairly close.

Also, Soup, if you request it, I can chew you out for all your mistakes and give you COPIOUS amounts of information on how to min-max, but I'm refraining from doing so because I suspect you'd rather just enjoy it at your own pace.

Actually, part of my enjoyment is carefully executing a plan and coming out clean. I don't want to do things dirty if they're not necessary, because there's no reward in me losing units from something I could have avoided. I'll gladly take the help I can get. I'm a perfectionist at heart too Raz, I still feel the burns from losing those three units but I just didn't want to restart so I moved forward thinking about the long run and how I probably wasn't going to use them.

 

[Raziek]

Do your first run your way. If you like the game enough to do a second run, I'll then tell you about how to make the most of the Marriage/Children system.

You're already past the point of being able to super min-max as a result of having Chrom/Sumia queued up and Donnel being dead. Chrom/Sumia is the second-best pairing IMHO, but I like Chrom/Olivia better. Donnel is one of the de-facto best dads in the game because he passes both Mercenary and Pegasus Knight to female children. He's the ideal dad for Sully's child and one of the best for a few other characters.

 

[Circus]

@SRPG thing, I feel like permanent death can also get in the way of actually having a strategy too though, because game(s) becomes unbeatable unless you had kept everyone alive. Which is dumb in my opinion because that means strategies come with the stipulation of keeping all your units alive; anything else is not worth exploring. That's why I prefer Advances Wars over FE anyways. I can actually change my strategy on the fly without having to reset and losing however much time I spent on that chapter.

That's usually why you get dozens of characters in these kinds of games (I guess I'm talking mostly about Fire Emblem games since that's my main point of reference, but even FFT:A had you recruiting people throughout the game). By the end, if you've kept everyone alive, you've probably gotten to the point where at least a handful of the characters at your disposal are niche, if not flat-out redundant. Yeah, certain strategies do require you to have certain classes on hand, so letting characters of that class die will limit you. But the game doesn't become unplayable then; you just have to start working within different parameters. Then the challenge becomes "****, now I have no [class X], what's my solution to that?" The whole game is just about solving the problem in front of you. Depending on the mistakes you've made in previous problems, the solutions to the future ones may change. Unless you just gimp yourself by letting all of your characters other than story important ones die, you shouldn't ever be in a position where you can't win. And if you are in that position, then you kind of asked for it.

I keep looking for this comic I saw that compares Fire Emblem to Advance Wars to cap off this post because RELEVANT, but I can't so I won't so here you go.

 

[Raziek]

This one!

 

[Circus]

That's the one!

I knew I kept you around for a reason.

 

[Gova]

Can't say I agree. People in FFT:A can't die, except in certain towns which you can easily avoid. The exception being like one or two story missions. You can also do random battles to level them up to catch them up to where they're actually usable. I'm not sure if/how easily you can do that in FE.

Also, that comic should have a second version where the FE guy says "I can always reset".

 

[Raziek]

Can't say I agree. People in FFT:A can't die, except in certain towns which you can easily avoid. The exception being like one or two story missions. You can also do random battles to level them up to catch them up to where they're actually usable. I'm not sure if/how easily you can do that in FE.

Easy enough to catch someone up in Sacred Stones and Awakening (as a result of the world map), Path of Radiance & Radiant Dawn (Bonus Experience). Not in anything from FE7 (First English one) or prior, though.

Also, that comic should have a second version where the FE guy says "I can always reset".

Mmmm..... nope. Because that applies to both games. The point is that your units exploding is NOT a part of the Fire Emblem basic gameplay pattern, like it is in Advance Wars.

 

[Gova]

My only experience with FE was the DS one and I didn't like it.

Also, you definitely don't reset in Advance Wars. Mistakes aren't so bad that you can't work your way out of it. In FE I'm guessing if you lose a good character you might as well restart. It's more likely to happen there than it is in AW.

 

[Raziek]

My only experience with FE was the DS one and I didn't like it.

Also, you definitely don't reset in Advance Wars. Mistakes aren't so bad that you can't work your way out of it. In FE I'm guessing if you lose a good character you might as well restart. It's more likely to happen there than it is in AW.

You played literally the worst English FE. You played the crappy port of the very first game.

You need to play Awakening, Gova. When's your birthday?

Nevermind, I checked Facebook, it's not till November. I will chip in some dough if you want to enjoy Awakening, though.

 

[Gova]

November 27th.

 

[ranmaru]

I remember getting into the fire emblem 'reset' mindset... and then starting advanced wars... but I could never get it to a point where I would NOT lose a unit. I was like... **** this. Especially since I don't lose much points anyways and it's all WOO HOO PARTY TIME for the CO's but the troops like, don't matter to the plot so **** 'em.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

You played literally the worst English FE. You played the crappy port of the very first game. You need to play Awakening, Gova. When's your birthday? Nevermind, I checked Facebook, it's not till November. I will chip in some dough if you want to enjoy Awakening, though.

Raziek soliciting Gova for engagement in a visually interactive service:
Step 1: Shaming. Insults. Derisive Comments.
Step 2: Opportunity. Forgiveness.
Step 3: Solicitation. Bribing. Manipulation.

 

[Raziek]

I'm not seeing any of what you're describing in Step 1.

I crapped on the game, not him. >_>

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

My only experience with FE was the DS one and I didn't like it.

Also, you definitely don't reset in Advance Wars. Mistakes aren't so bad that you can't work your way out of it. In FE I'm guessing if you lose a good character you might as well restart. It's more likely to happen there than it is in AW.

Having played it in such a manner before, I think you understate how easy Fire Emblem is when you let units die. You can easily replenish your numbers with other units. However, you like the units, so you want to salvage them. You would have to be quite the poor player on quite the difficult game mode to have to reset any more in FE than you do in AW.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

In a casual FE run there is no such thing as an irreplacable unit. Even in HM there isn't. Only if you do ranked runs but you can't let your units die in these anyway.

 

[BarDulL]

yeah, shadow dragon was easily the worst FE to ever come to america. as a big fan of the series i ended up playing through it anyway, but everything about shadow dragon was just...bleh, especially the dialogue. very poorly translated for sure. the story wasn't all that great either even though it's supposed to be a remake. the online mode was kind of nice, until people started using gameshark-esque stuff to turn units into gods and consequently making online competitive play pointless. that being said, i will also pitch in for gova to play awakening because shadow dragon is understandably one of the worst first impressions one could have of the series. (i am sorry you had to go through that gova you poor soul LOL)

regarding AW, i could never invest myself in advanced wars for some reason, albeit i have played it once or twice. not sure why considering i actually do like tactical rpgs and things of that nature.

@Soup - i got bodied in my first run through FE7 and lost a lot of good units. the genre itself definitely has a learning process and it's no big deal to have casualties along the way even on normal mode when you're first starting out.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

As a heads up, I got a bill in my mail for using a CVS Minute Clinic that came out to $165 for a check-up because I wanted them to have a check up since I was experiencing serious post-nasal drip symptoms. My co-pay visit should have only been $30, but the health care professional failed to notice it on my insurance and stated that it would be resolved when the bill came through in the mail. It didn't, I ended up with a $99.00 bill for the visit. Also, I was charged twice for an influenza A+B test. However, I believe that this is at least the 'appropriate' billing procedure and the item is intentionally skewed to fool the consumer:

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Notice how it lists the A+B test as each when the test actually forcibly combines both to be used due to the nature that the test comes in:

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Therefore appropriate marketing of this item should be: Influenza A+B test: $66. Note that this doesn't matter, because when you actually sit in the nursing office, the nurse doesn't inform you of the co-pay before she administers it. Simply she uses the diagnostic atmosphere to mask important questions regarding how much the test would cost leaving the patient to assume that the test is part of the initial visit rather than requiring an additional charge. Also it has taken about 45 minutes for me to reach a representative regarding the bill. Once I had reached one of them, they had informed me that they had difficulty billing it through my insurance, however I received no contact from them that there was an issue with processing my visit through my insurance despite them having both of home phone number and cell phone number.

 

[BSL]

That's unfortunate

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

That's unfortunate

Just got off the phone with them after I waited for the specialist on the phone for half an hour to put in various information to clear me through the insurance, however she wasn't able to process me so now I'm off to call my insurance. Ugh.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

it's daylight ****ing robbery is what it is

why you would need a test for flu is beyond me anyways. over here you can get an annual vaccination to help prevent flu for like, $20

 

[BSL]

I suggest looking into immune systems.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Contacted my insurance. My healthcare policy with Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield was apparently in limbo, with the account department having me as an active account whereas the billing department having my account terminated on 12/31/2013. This is likely due to policies changing with all insurance companies with respect to affordable care act changes effective of 2014. Specialist on the phone informed that she would have to forward my claim to their enrollment department which would process it as soon as possible which would be around 7-10 business days. I need the bill payed by 5/4, she said that I may have to pay the entire bill up front and then file a claim with their reimbursement department. However, she was nice enough to state that she didn't really trust the matter to be resolved any time soon and now she is calling their Minute Clinic Billing Department in order to resolve the issue with their staff personally. Hahahahaha.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

it's daylight ****ing robbery is what it is why you would need a test for flu is beyond me anyways. over here you can get an annual vaccination to help prevent flu for like, $20

A lot of patients usually just get tamiflu, but that costs around $50 with insurance and around $150 out of pocket. The shot costs around $35 out of pocket iirc, but I haven't processed a claim in a long time so I'm not sure if the cost has gone up. I believe that BSL's point is that influenza is highly adaptable and the efficacy of the shot often comes under question because it is based on virus strains from a previous season, if not the previous season. Therefore, not necessarily indicating it being effective for this season which leads to the pricing model of it being questionable as a diagnosis to inform the patient that they do have a flu infection could be seen as having comparative value to having a shot that has potentially no value whatsoever.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I love the direction Nintendo is going with their marketing strategy. I'm hyped for E3 now.

 

[BSL]

I'm just saying I don't get flu shots and I don't get the flu.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'm just saying I don't get flu shots and I don't get the flu.

yeah they're used for protection geez

#legaliseguns

 

[BarDulL]

I love the direction Nintendo is going with their marketing strategy. I'm hyped for E3 now.

The Nokia theater and e3 are literally 10 minutes away from me, but apparently only 16 players are being invited to the tournament event. Kinda salty about that, but hopefully there's a means by which people can qualify for the event. If there isn't, I'll be even more salty if a bunch of random people get invited.

 

[BSL]

yeah they're used for protection geez

#legaliseguns

I don't follow

 

[#HBC | Joker]

The Nokia theater and e3 are literally 10 minutes away from me, but apparently only 16 players are being invited to the tournament event. Kinda salty about that, but hopefully there's a means by which people can qualify for the event. If there isn't, I'll be even more salty if a bunch of random people get invited.

As long as they invite M2K, I'll be happy. We'll find out everything we want to know about the game and more if the Robot spends a few hours with it.

They'll probably get a bunch of well-known Melee players in there, since they've been in some level of contact with them in preparation for EVO and the MLG circuit. At least I hope they're smart enough to do that. Also, I swear everyone who wants to find out who big name players are in the smash community these days just watches The Smash Brothers, and writes down names. Look at all the people who have been approached by gaming teams and sponsors lately.

 

[Xivii]

I'm not seeing any of what you're describing in Step 1.

I crapped on the game, not him. >_>

It's still a really funny interpretation n_n

 

[Xivii]

I don't follow

flu shots > shots > guns

 

[Xivii]

I'm just saying I don't get flu shots and I don't get the flu.

That's only because you have a superior bloodline. Not everyone is as fortunate.

 

[Ashemu]

fe13 mkaes me mad irl because the previous 2 games had savepoints in the middle of chapters and fe13, for some gods-forsaken reason does not bc intelligent systems are craven curs & dastards
basically fucc the chapter where you get nah and fcuc me for thinking hard mode on my 1st playthrough was a good idea. imo fe13 is, gameplay-wise, an absolute slog to get thru, fe7 is liek a million times more fun. if u like fe13 then you should play fe7 because it's really good
however i only play fe casually as i am never good at video games ever.

 

[Raziek]

fe13 mkaes me mad irl because the previous 2 games had savepoints in the middle of chapters and fe13, for some gods-forsaken reason does not bc intelligent systems are craven curs & dastards
basically fucc the chapter where you get nah and fcuc me for thinking hard mode on my 1st playthrough was a good idea. imo fe13 is, gameplay-wise, an absolute slog to get thru, fe7 is liek a million times more fun. if u like fe13 then you should play fe7 because it's really good
however i only play fe casually as i am never good at video games ever.