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ok, Jupz plays Bunny in Loser's and Celebi plays KRD in winner's semis.
 
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Celebi or whoever I'm playing, we can play tomorrow. xD Just message me on AIM or something.


Edit: Oh wait, I'm playing Jupz..
 
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CRASHiC said:
ZIP ZIP ZIP
We gotta play.
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Wait, what? You're not playing Zip you're playing the winner of Jupz and Bunny. Zip dropped out.

Try to keep track of the tourney you're supposed to be organizing plz.
 
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Wait, what? You're not playing Zip you're playing the winner of Jupz and Bunny. Zip dropped out.

Try to keep track of the tourney you're supposed to be organizing plz.
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lol gates
also crashic some up with a prize of some sort next time =_=
 
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Dedede is obviously Blissey because he lives long but can get screwed really badly by a few common characters.
 
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THat list couldn't work Alby. Latias isn't a Blissey counter. If anything it's the other way around.
 
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I think Azelf should be Falco. Quick, can do a lot of damage in a short amount of time, and can be played defensively. x.x Azelf can do some pretty good damage to Blissey too.
 
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Infernape is Falco.

Goes even with all the other high tiers except Tyranitar/Diddy and Blissey/Dedede who he beats solidly.
Lots of damage and very versatile.

Can't be played defensively (Slack Off? lol), but otherwise it's spot on.

EDIT: lol good **** Alby.
 
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Gates said:
Infernape is Falco.

Goes even with all the other high tiers except Tyranitar/Diddy and Blissey/Dedede who he beats solidly.
Lots of damage and very versatile.

Can't be played defensively (Slack Off? lol), but otherwise it's spot on.
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Actually, yeah, that's pretty **** good. Rofl.

MK and Falco can do some pretty ridiculous stuff to each other, and so can Scizor and Infernape. I think...with a Swords Dance boost, Scizor can STILL OHKO Infernape (Mostly do to Infernape's ridiculous frailty). If it's a CB Scizor, it will most likely KO Infernape if it switches in. Infernape just beats it if Scizor is for some reason not able to switch.
 
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Oh, that's another similarity:

Infernape is ridiculously frail.
Falco can be gimped easily.

Who would ICs be?
 
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ICs would be a Hetran, 2nd best Scizor counter but can be stopped if Scizor plays it right.
but not sure how it would work with the others.
 
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Lol, nah. Scizor fits perfectly. Easy to use, high priority, and just destroys ****. And it isn't banned from standard play. Heatran = ICs definitely. Good, but some Pokemon just completely shut it down (Like another Heatran, LOL).
 
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OK, let's review facts about ICs translated into pokemon terms.

Able to punish mistakes better than any other character, to the point where it can kill anything that makes a mistake.
Goes relatively even with Scizor, though some would disagree.
Does poorly against Rotom in particlar.
Considered a counter to both Infernape and Blissey (this is gonna be hard).
Relatively even against everyone else.

...Dugtrio? I have no idea.

EDIT: Heatran as ICs doesn't make sense from a matchup perspective. Heatran has trouble breaking Blissey although she can't do much back to him (not quite accurate of ICs versus Dedede) and Heatran can get totally destroyed by Infernape (definitely not accurate of ICs vs Falco).
 
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Surprisingly, Pikachu is NOT pikachu.

EDIT- at Gates, you just described Gliscor. Mostly. ****, its a mix between Gliscor and Heatran. take your pick.
 
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o dam, you're right. And Gliscor can play really defensive too so it is a good fit.

Ironic that the one representing Ice Climbers has a 4x weakness to Ice.
 
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Gates said:
Dedede is obviously Blissey because he lives long but can get screwed really badly by a few common characters.
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Lucario, Salamence, Dragonite, CroCrune, Scizor, Machamp, Tyranitar, Breloom, SubTran, Trick users, Kingdra... What were you getting at?

MK is Salamence lmao

No matter what set (playstyle) it goes by, you're going to get wrecked.
 
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Scizor is better than Salamence. Not by a lot, but yeah, it's better. Both Pokemon are ridiculous to be honest. If Salamence gets a Dragon Dance in, it just ****s on the next two/three pokemon you switch in with Outrage.
 
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Scizor, Tyranitar, and Infernape are up there and they're accurate.

Lucario or Heatran can be Pikachu or Olimar maybe.

Breloom and the dragons can be dealt with using Ice Beam and careful planning unless Breloom is packing Sub+Spore (which is a common set on Breloom but Breloom himself isn't THAT common).

Kingdra? Really? Maybe in Rain but otherwise lol no.

Just saying "Trick users" is too vague to really count.

Salamence = Marth? Beats up lots of characters but it held back by Scizor/Rotom/Bliss?
 
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Bunny :3 said:
Scizor is better than Salamence. Not by a lot, but yeah, it's better. Both Pokemon are ridiculous to be honest. If Salamence gets a Dragon Dance in, it just ****s on the next two/three pokemon you switch in with Outrage.
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Salamence also has Draco Meteor and Fire Blast on the MixMence set to dispatch of its supposed checks. If you predict wrong, most of your team (or at least a valuable member of it) is gone and if you predict right, something takes 40% while Salamence can come back in at 65%, 40%, or at 90% and continue to wreck your team- now you have to resort to prediction once more to beat Mence. Scizor has checks, most of which can switch in on all of its moves but Superpower. In all honesty, I'd rather face Garchomp in OU than Salamence, at least I know what it's going to do.

Lucario or Heatran can be Pikachu or Olimar maybe.
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Lucario is CFalcon, Heatran is DDD.
Breloom and the dragons can be dealt with using Ice Beam and careful planning unless Breloom is packing Sub+Spore (which is a common set on Breloom but Breloom himself isn't THAT common).
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Right, becuase Blissey boasts a base 200 Speed and requires no EVs to outplace them in order to land a OHKO (2HKO in Breloom's case) with Ice Beam?

Kingdra? Really? Maybe in Rain but otherwise lol no.
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Dragon Dance and Waterfall? Substitute was used on 28% of Kingdra's movesets, so it's still notable.

Just saying "Trick users" is too vague to really count.
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Rotom-A, Latias and Gengar (lol)

Salamence = Marth? Beats up lots of characters but it held back by Scizor/Rotom/Bliss?
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lol

Scizor isn't getting in safely on Fire Blast; Blissey and Rotom-A are ***** by Outrage. Keep trying, though.
 
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Breloom is DDD guys,

He only has to do one thing to whipe your ***, but gets in trouble by common threats like Scizor.

Oh, and he seems really gay until you learn how to play against him, but even then he's still kind of gay.
 
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Breloom is not Dedede. We don't have that many bad matchups.

He's not Gyara either since Gyara is too easy to kill (TBolt, kthxbye). Also, by that logic we'd lose to Snake, which we don't.

I really think that Dedede is like Blissey. At the very least, they both seem bad on paper but work very well in practice.
 
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