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Yeah. IM me if you can, I want to talk to you about something.
That's why I put Falco lower, his necessary level of tech skill is so much higher than the other high tiers.
If you're on around 1:00. I'll start a room.
I'd definitely be there for that, even though I've never played Marvel ever. 2-D fighter day!
It's not a matter of preference, Pills >>>>>> Fireballs. Fireballs are an average projectile, Pills are 3rd best after Falco Lasers and Needles.
Yeah, it was uncharacteristically bad today, even for Wi-Fi. I think I heard you cursing a few times.
Care to explain?
Pills deal more damage, generate more hit stun and have generally a more useful angle, especially on the bounce. Full hop Pill to waveland is a reasonable approach, standing pills positioned to bounce right at the edge of the stage are very useful for edge guarding, and it's easier to time and position your pills to cover multiple options. The higher bounce allows you to sneak pills up onto platforms, while fireballs will always fall short of the platform, unless it's like, a low FoD platform.
I don't know, **** Nintendo and their peripherals.
agree... i can't talk about how much i hate nintendo for this enough. i'll talk to you about it more at work though, i come to an interesting realization
I wont even say it.BELIEVE IN YOURSELF NOODLES!
My view of it has always been that pills are better suited to a more defensive style while fireballs are better for rushdowns and such, hence why I think it's a matter of preference even though pills are better on paper. Fireballs ARE better for aiding recovery, though. No way around that. Doc > Mario either way.
Discuss.
Why do you think Fireballs are better for recovery? It's easier to get under fireballs and easier to get over pills, I don't see how one is unconditionally better than the other.
Pills are only better if you're recovering like directly above the edge. They're completely useless in any situations where they would actually be helpful to Doc, namely when he's forced to sweetspot or when his opponent is on the edge already. You can place your fireballs by spacing yourself from the edge, but there's no remedy for pills going too low.
I think M2K's list is very accurate but I still think Fox is not better than Marth. All it takes to kill a fox is a goood u throw, u tilt, and f smash game....and thats it. Just take a fox to yoshis story, pokemon stadium, or fountain of dreams and you're fine.
The bigger issue keeping me from playing today is returning my roommate's 50" plasma TV to costco :\...
It's a two-way street; Fox can mess Marth up badly with his grab game. He's also much harder to land grabs on in general. Also, Fox counters everybody on Stadium. No johns. He does suck badly on FoD, though.
FoD is the only bad fox stage you listed.
I disagree @ Battlefield. The ledges mess space animals up too badly. I HATE Dreamland with Marth, though.
We'll figure something out.
LOL when I was playing M2k at Chu's final Melee biweekly, he got mad that I picked Stadium against his Marth with Fox. He was like, "NO I hate this stage for this matchup. I've NEVER beaten PC's Fox here EVER", I got a big laugh out of that. I still picked Stadium and he 3 stocked me anyway haha
i can probably play tomorrow, but around what time?
yeah i used to feel the same way but if your off the stage vs marth your most likely dead anyway weather its battlefield or any other stage, it might be a little harder but as far as on stage fighting goes i think its almost dead even.
I can head down to Port Chester any time after work. I usually get home at like, 5:30ish, so like, I can aim to be there any time after 6.
