Congratulations, Min Min! ARMS character(s) for Smash discussion

[Swamp Sensei]

same as DQ including its fighters as well

Actually...

That got me thinking.

ARMS doesn't have any promotional spirits does it?

Unless Barq promotes to Byte and Barq.

 

[GolisoPower]

Actually...

That got me thinking.

ARMS doesn't have any promotional spirits does it?

Unless Barq promotes to Byte and Barq.

Maybe Dr. Coyle promoting to Dr. Coyle + Hedlok?

 

[Perkilator]

Since you mentioned that, I decided to think about what I'd imagine a Biff Spirit being like:

Spoiler: Biff Spirit

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Spirit Name: Biff
Spirit Type: Support
Opponent: Yellow, Red (x3)
Stage: Boxing Ring
Rules:

• The enemy likes to avoid conflict (Yellow G&W)
• The enemy has increased punch and elbow strike power (Red G&W)
• The battle is timed (1:39)
• Defeat the main fighter to win (Yellow G&W)

Music Track: ARMS Medley
Spirit Effect: Lightweight +

I didn't know what Spirit Effect would fit Biff TBH.

Here’s my interpretation:

Spirit: Biff
Class:
Spirit Type: Support
Effect: Transformation Duration ^

Opponent: (Libre)
Conditions:
-The enemy loves to taunt
-Hostile Assist Trophies (Spring Man)
-The enemy tends avoid conflict
Stage: [ARMS Stage]
Music: Grand Prix (ARMS)

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Actually...

That got me thinking.

ARMS doesn't have any promotional spirits does it?

Unless Barq promotes to Byte and Barq.

Hedlok -> Lv8 Hedlok

Maybe?

 

[MattX20]

I would be shocked if we got less than 10 music tracks for the ARMS rep. Given it's a new game/franchise to Smash, it needs to get at least 15.

 

[SwitchButton]

I would be shocked if we got less than 10 music tracks for the ARMS rep. Given it's a new game/franchise to Smash, it needs to get at least 15.

Does ARMS even have more then 20 tracks? Honestly I think they could fit the entire soundtrack very easily

 

[augustoflores]

every stage has it's own music. there are 15 stages in arms. this, not to mention there's also remixes.

 

[fogbadge]

Actually...

That got me thinking.

ARMS doesn't have any promotional spirits does it?

Unless Barq promotes to Byte and Barq.

well theres already a couple that turn into completely different characters so they may wing it a little

 

[Glaciacott]

Lol there's definitely more than 20 songs.

Personally rather than just lifting every song and tossing it in Smash I hope they actually get us new remixes for a couple of them and then add the more tonally different character themes to fill in the rest (Master Mummy's theme, for example, is fairly different from the rest of the songs and would be a great addition.)

The Sky Arena Hedlock theme is a must, of course.

 

[MattX20]

Oh I forgot, there was one more possible candidate for a spirit: the Cells.

 

[Trevenant]

How many songs are in the ARMS OST? If it's a reasonable number then they could feasibly put them all in the game. Has any game ever had its entire soundtrack put in smash? Except things like Ice Climbers and ROB.

 

[RebelMaren]

On the subject of ARMS music, I stumbled on this video about the culture behind the OST, really interesting insight into game music design.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Actually...

That got me thinking.

ARMS doesn't have any promotional spirits does it?

Unless Barq promotes to Byte and Barq.

To be fair, DLCs doesn't need to have enhancable spirits, Persona and Fatal Fury / SNK don't have one. I imagine Arms to be the same.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

To be fair, DLCs doesn't need to have enhancable spirits, Persona and Fatal Fury / SNK don't have one. I imagine Arms to be the same.

Isn’t one of the DQ spirits enhanceable? The house leaders from FE3H are

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Isn’t one of the DQ spirits enhanceable? The house leaders from FE3H are

If I'm correct, there's the slime and the sabercub for DQ. And yes, FE3H do have the leaders indeed. Banjo have the Jinjos too.

 

[MattX20]

The only spirit I could see being upgradable is Hedlok, and that's it. Byte and Bark are always together

 

[fogbadge]

The only spirit I could see being upgradable is Hedlok, and that's it. Byte and Bark are always together

unless for some reason the have the cells turn into helix

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

unless for some reason the have the cells turn into helix

I could honestly see it since Helix is basically a Cell with sentience if we really wanna make his description as simple as possible.

 

[Staarih]

To be fair, DLCs doesn't need to have enhancable spirits, Persona and Fatal Fury / SNK don't have one. I imagine Arms to be the same.

Yeah, there’s not one that clearly works as enhanceable, maybe Hedlok to lvl 8 Hedlok, but having one isn’t necessary. There seems to be more of a pattern regarding the ranks of the spirit, f. ex. every Spirit Board having at least one Legend rank spirit etc.

 

[fogbadge]

I could honestly see it since Helix is basically a Cell with sentience if we really wanna make his description as simple as possible.

itd be no different from a nipper plant turning into petey piranha

 

[RebelMaren]

To be fair, spirits aren't advertised as part of the DLC in the first place. Theres no promise to how many there'll be if any. It's like how the promise several music tracks, but not a specific quantity or if there'll be any remixes.

Also, If he isn't the chosen fighter, I totally see Incineroar for Max Brass.

 

[MattX20]

Only 7 days of May remain. The wait for June 1st is nearly at an end

 

[Trevenant]

Tbf I wonder how the character will be presented. A showcase, something like Joker perhaps or maybe a direct? (Probably not though)

 

[RebelMaren]

Tbf I wonder how the character will be presented. A showcase, something like Joker perhaps or maybe a direct? (Probably not though)

I'm convinced it'll basically play out like Byleth. Live stream announced a day or so before, character revealed at the start and presented immediatly, followed by release date. Maybe 7 could be revealed at the end, with no E3 I'm not sure theres a better place to do it.

 

[Trevenant]

I'm convinced it'll basically play out like Byleth. Live stream announced a day or so before, character revealed at the start and presented immediatly, followed by release date. Maybe 7 could be revealed at the end, with no E3 I'm not sure theres a better place to do it.

If several characters are being revealed I would have thought it would be a direct. But yeah it'll probably be like Byleth. If any other reveals happen it'll be one more tops

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Only 7 days of May remain. The wait for June 1st is nearly at an end

Yeah, but we still gotta wait a few weeks after that at best...

 

[MattX20]

Yeah, but we still gotta wait a few weeks after that at best...

Compared to the wait between December 2018 and E3 2019, this is nothing

 

[RebelMaren]

If several characters are being revealed I would have thought it would be a direct. But yeah it'll probably be like Byleth. If any other reveals happen it'll be one more tops

Yo never know, there might be more added to the game than just one character so they might just call it a Smash Direct.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Compared to the wait between December 2018 and E3 2019, this is nothing

For those who don't have jobs like me, it feels slower than it would be otherwise. At least I had that back then.

Yo never know, there might be more added to the game than just one character so they might just call it a Smash Direct.

Oh yeah, that's right, we haven't had those since November 2018. Only this time it'd be livestream-ish.

 

[MattX20]

If several characters are being revealed I would have thought it would be a direct. But yeah it'll probably be like Byleth. If any other reveals happen it'll be one more tops

With this, I imagine they would have 2 reveals, the ARMS rep and FP7. One thing about Nintendo is that they still need to sell the pass, and there are many who were still burned about Byleth, and they need either a big fan requested character or a major 3rd party to sell the pass. ARMS on its own won't be enough

 

[Trevenant]

With this, I imagine they would have 2 reveals, the ARMS rep and FP7. One thing about Nintendo is that they still need to sell the pass, and there are many who were still burned about Byleth, and they need either a big fan requested character or a major 3rd party to sell the pass. ARMS on its own won't be enough

If it is actually branded as a smash direct then we will inevitably get at least 2 reveals including the ARMS rep and tops 3. If not we will probably get just the ARMS character on its own. It's not like people are going to avoid the DLC. They will only buy it once a character they care about gets in and that's the same whether they are still invested in Smash or not.

 

[MattX20]

If it is actually branded as a smash direct then we will inevitably get at least 2 reveals including the ARMS rep and tops 3. If not we will probably get just the ARMS character on its own. It's not like people are going to avoid the DLC. They will only buy it once a character they care about gets in and that's the same whether they are still invested in Smash or not.

They were invested to fund a second season of DLC. They're invested in it, and they know they need to sell it, otherwise it's a waste of time and resources.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

If it is actually branded as a smash direct then we will inevitably get at least 2 reveals including the ARMS rep and tops 3. If not we will probably get just the ARMS character on its own. It's not like people are going to avoid the DLC. They will only buy it once a character they care about gets in and that's the same whether they are still invested in Smash or not.

I can see three reveals if they’re all spaced out in terms of when they actually release. Hero and Banjo were revealed in the same direct but Hero dropped late July and Banjo dropped I think early September

I.e. ARMS is released the same day they’re actually revealed (June), FP7 drops in August and FP8 drops in October

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I dunno about August and October (I question predictions very heavily, since I'm proof of how easy it is to mess them up), but spaced out releases to compensate for close reveals seem plausible.

 

[osby]

I can see three reveals if they’re all spaced out in terms of when they actually release. Hero and Banjo were revealed in the same direct but Hero dropped late July and Banjo dropped I think early September

I'm not sure if they'll cram what essentially is half of the remaining reveals into one presentation.

Another character I can see but there is no reason announcing a fighter when we have to wait so many months and two other fighters before their release.

 

[Trevenant]

They were invested to fund a second season of DLC. They're invested in it, and they know they need to sell it, otherwise it's a waste of time and resources.

By invested in it, I meant the average consumer, not Nintendo themselves. The consumer will be back invested into smash if it's a character they care about gets revealed and will then purchase the DLC. Same goes if they are still playing Smash.

I can see three reveals if they’re all spaced out in terms of when they actually release. Hero and Banjo were revealed in the same direct but Hero dropped late July and Banjo dropped I think early September

I.e. ARMS is released the same day they’re actually revealed (June), FP7 drops in August and FP8 drops in October

Yeah that is pretty much the no brainer if how it could go. ARMS rep releases in June, 7 releases in Fall and 8 releases in Winter. But personally I'm just expecting the ARMS character in a presentation to be months safe side. I admit a direct is a long shot and 2 would still be most plausible

 

[GolisoPower]

I'd like three reveals for DLC fighters as much as anybody else on this thread, but here's the thing: as far as I can tell, DLC characters are only revealed 2 at a time. E3 2015 with Roy and Ryu was a little workaround at the time because we already knew Lucas was coming, and as Rie mentioned before, Hero and Banjo were revealed at E3 last year.

I'd say they'd stick with only two and reveal who the ARMS character is and Challenger Pack 7, and end on that in terms of Smash, because even if Challenger Pack 6 is from ARMS, we still don't know who the hell it is.

 

[Trevenant]

I'd like three reveals for DLC fighters as much as anybody else on this thread, but here's the thing: as far as I can tell, DLC characters are only revealed 2 at a time. E3 2015 with Roy and Ryu was a little workaround at the time because we already knew Lucas was coming, and as Rie mentioned before, Hero and Banjo were revealed at E3 last year.

I'd say they'd stick with only two and reveal who the ARMS character is and Challenger Pack 7, and end on that in terms of Smash, because even if Challenger Pack 6 is from ARMS, we still don't know who the hell it is.

I hope people aren't expecting three reveals tbh. I was saying it could maybe happen but probably won't. It could be argued to be a stretch to see 7 under the assumption it's just a Sakurai showcase.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I'd like three reveals for DLC fighters as much as anybody else on this thread, but here's the thing: as far as I can tell, DLC characters are only revealed 2 at a time. E3 2015 with Roy and Ryu was a little workaround at the time because we already knew Lucas was coming, and as Rie mentioned before, Hero and Banjo were revealed at E3 last year.

I'd say they'd stick with only two and reveal who the ARMS character is and Challenger Pack 7, and end on that in terms of Smash, because even if Challenger Pack 6 is from ARMS, we still don't know who the hell it is.

Maybe a brief teaser for the third if not a full trailer?

 

[MattX20]

By invested in it, I meant the average consumer, not Nintendo themselves. The consumer will be back invested into smash if it's a character they care about gets revealed and will then purchase the DLC. Same goes if they are still playing Smash.

Yeah that is pretty much the no brainer if how it could go. ARMS rep releases in June, 7 releases in Fall and 8 releases in Winter. But personally I'm just expecting the ARMS character in a presentation to be months safe side. I admit a direct is a long shot and 2 would still be most plausible

That is my point, Trevenant. They need to get consumers to buy the Fighter Pass, and ARMS isn't going to be enough to sell, hence my comments about a big fan favorite request or a major 3rd party character.