Congratulations, Min Min! ARMS character(s) for Smash discussion

[Trevenant]

A sword and shield showcase has been announced? it says it was written by Amazon Gaming and there was stuff about Saturday? I'm confused. Could someone elaborate?

Anyway elsewhere before we completely rule off this week, it could maybe still happen tonight or tomorrow as a shadow drop.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Remember, Nintendo and sense are not a frequent combination.

 

[MBRedboy31]

Ribbon Girl having that amount of movement actually reflects ARMS as a whole, where all fighters have air dashes to quickly change direction. Putting Ribbon Girl’s multiple jumps in Smash would also be perfectly possible in Smash. Heck, porting her from how she plays in ARMS is in exact accordance to the Smash rules, even moreso if she is indeed more of an air fighter and thus can use an air dash.

Spring Man’s gimmicks aside from long range could also work together to enhance the mechanics already present in ARMS and help him translate to Smash because of that: The deflect wouldn’t be a “gimmick” but can simply be a special move that allows him to deal with counter-zoning, actively rounding out his playstyle AND serving as an extra facet of his playstyle in ARMS.

Coyle’s permanent levitation (and thus her lack of jumps, being replaced with a flight system) would not work as a gimmick in Smash. That‘s fine, she has plenty of other gimmicks and can wonderfully represent ARMS by having a personal skill that ties into both charging ARMS and the long range punching by having a third ARM occasionally. However, if you want to make a fighter feel like they are in ARMS, I’d rather pick a character whose gimmicks already comply with Smash’s rules and can thus be faithfully ported. I don’t think floating deconfirms her and I think she’s the sixth most likely fighter and probably the funnest one, but her floating is something that she has to lose in the transition to Smash, sadly.

How exactly do we know that the floating won't work if it hasn't ever been tried before? (Unless there's a RoA/Brawl/ect. mod character that tried it that I haven't heard of.)

She doesn't exactly have a flight system in ARMS; she can only hover up to a limited distance above the ground that's below her (and, as such, in Smash, she wouldn't be able to fly around offstage or become unreachably high above the stage.) Although, if she can shield in midair, I wonder if that would be frustrating for the opponent simply due to the fact that most characters don't have grabs that can reach an aerial opponent (unlike in ARMS) and thus wouldn't be able to do anything but attempt to shield poke her. On the other hand, this type of movement sounds kind of slow in the context of Smash, which would make her even more vulnerable to rushdown, unless maybe she has a regular-ish single jump from the ground to make the ground-air transition faster.

I think it's unlikely that they would try this since they'd probably consider the ARMS character's (whoever they are) other gimmicks to be enough, but I still think it's interesting to consider atypical movement options like this.

 

[Gentlepanda]

NOA now tweeting almost hourly

it's like they're rolling out a backlog of tweets

 

[Teeb147]

Well ok, maybe they're starting to wake up How long before they realize it's supposed to be a hype gaming time.

Just reveal already XD

 

[Gentlepanda]

real upload hours too

 

[Rie Sonomura]

real upload hours too

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Y’all

ITS HAPPENING.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

This means we're close to a reveal, why?

 

[chocolatejr9]

This means we're close to a reveal, why?

Because we're DESPERATE.

 

[Hokori]

Because we're DESPERATE.

Ah, desperation for news in the Smash community. Always a good time : )

 

[WeirdChillFever]

How exactly do we know that the floating won't work if it hasn't ever been tried before? (Unless there's a RoA/Brawl/ect. mod character that tried it that I haven't heard of.)

She doesn't exactly have a flight system in ARMS; she can only hover up to a limited distance above the ground that's below her (and, as such, in Smash, she wouldn't be able to fly around offstage or become unreachably high above the stage.) Although, if she can shield in midair, I wonder if that would be frustrating for the opponent simply due to the fact that most characters don't have grabs that can reach an aerial opponent (unlike in ARMS) and thus wouldn't be able to do anything but attempt to shield poke her. On the other hand, this type of movement sounds kind of slow in the context of Smash, which would make her even more vulnerable to rushdown, unless maybe she has a regular-ish single jump from the ground to make the ground-air transition faster.

I think it's unlikely that they would try this since they'd probably consider the ARMS character's (whoever they are) other gimmicks to be enough, but I still think it's interesting to consider atypical movement options like this.

It’s a combination of things. Floating alone isn’t that special and even moving while floating has been done with Peach, but as Peach shows, a float affects even a basic moveset to be the main focus of that set. Especially a float as complicated as Coyle’s is bound to be centralizing, to the point where the ARMS mechanics would be overshadowed.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

It’s a combination of things. Floating alone isn’t that special and even moving while floating has been done with Peach, but as Peach shows, a float affects even a basic moveset to be the main focus of that set. Especially a float as complicated as Coyle’s is bound to be centralizing, to the point where the ARMS mechanics would be overshadowed.

To be honest, I personally see Coyle's hovering more like a really low fall speed.

 

[SneakyLink]

real upload hours too

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Like I said earlier, Nintendo pulling out the backlog of videos.

 

[MBRedboy31]

It’s a combination of things. Floating alone isn’t that special and even moving while floating has been done with Peach, but as Peach shows, a float affects even a basic moveset to be the main focus of that set. Especially a float as complicated as Coyle’s is bound to be centralizing, to the point where the ARMS mechanics would be overshadowed.

I mean, it’d feel pretty different to, say, just hold the jump button and be able to float over platforming-heavy stages like some of the scrolling stages (3D Land, ect.) while raining down downward-angled punches. She’d also be able to vertically zigzag up and down near the top of her hover height limit indefinitely, which no other character can do (although the slow vertical acceleration of the float would probably make that kind of useless compared to any other character just spamming neutral jump or something.)

Although,

To be honest, I personally see Coyle's hovering more like a really low fall speed.

would probably work too.

Anyway, I just thought it was worth discussing...

 

[WeirdChillFever]

I mean, it’d feel pretty different to, say, just hold the jump button and be able to float over platforming-heavy stages like some of the scrolling stages (3D Land, ect.) while raining down downward-angled punches. She’d also be able to vertically zigzag up and down near the top of her hover height limit indefinitely, which no other character can do (although the slow vertical acceleration of the float would probably make that kind of useless compared to any other character just spamming neutral jump or something.)

Although,



would probably work too.

Anyway, I just thought it was worth discussing...

It’s most definitely worth discussing and it‘s cool to see how far the ARMS mechanics, be it personal gimmicks or general mechanics, can go. Personally I think Coyle’s float as it is in ARMS is too much, but that doesn’t mean there are options regarding it that aren’t worth exploring. I definitely think, for example, that Twintelle’s float could work, albeit as a special move.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Remember, Nintendo and sense are not a frequent combination.

NOA now tweeting almost hourly

it's like they're rolling out a backlog of tweets

Well ok, maybe they're starting to wake up How long before they realize it's supposed to be a hype gaming time.

Just reveal already XD

Like I said earlier, Nintendo pulling out the backlog of videos.

In this case, there kind of was more pressing matters on the Western end of things.

Remember, we're still in June, we'll hear of the ARMS news before we get into July.

 

[M00NFIRE94]

Announce the fighter, announce the date, announce the announcement, something, AnyYtHInGGGGG. A potato sack race around the world would finish faster than this.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Announce the fighter, announce the date, announce the announcement, something, AnyYtHInGGGGG. A potato sack race around the world would finish faster than this.

Does that include the self isolation needed to move between countries?

 

[RetrogamerMax]

NOA now tweeting almost hourly

it's like they're rolling out a backlog of tweets

Nintendo: Here is some stuff you already know about.

Fans: When is the Smash announcement coming?

Nintendo: ...

Fans: WHEN?!!!

Nintendo:

 

[M00NFIRE94]

Does that include the self isolation needed to move between countries?

Implying it will be in cities? Lad, we're going over mountains, through forests, jungles, the fogs of mystery. There is no challenge if no bear mistook you in a conveniently McDonald branded bag for a french fry.

 

[Trevenant]

Does that include the self isolation needed to move between countries?

Yes it does. And it also includes an extra free day after the quarantining where you can do whatever you want for a day.

 

[Gentlepanda]

nintendo of europe and america finally receiving the all-clear from corporate that the period of silence is over like

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Ah, desperation for news in the Smash community. Always a good time : )

Yooooooooo, it's been forever, Hokotate!

 

[Hokori]

Yooooooooo, it's been forever, Hokotate!

It has! Hope all is well.

Just waiting for the reveal like everyone else.

Soon™.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

It has! Hope all is well.

Just waiting for the reveal like everyone else.

Soon™.

Kinda curious on one thing, Hoka-Kola.

Who do you think the rep will be?

 

[Hokori]

Kinda curious on one thing, Hoka-Kola.

Who do you think the rep will be?

I'm in the combination camp. Otherwise, I'd say Min-Min.

 

[Trevenant]

Kinda curious on one thing, Hoka-Kola.

Who do you think the rep will be?

I'm certain it's going to be Spring Man but I guess they could add alts. I guess coin that in there too but it's either one or the other as alts could very well not be included

 

[fogbadge]

Remember, Nintendo and sense are not a frequent combination.

sense is optional in the pursuit of wonder

 

[M00NFIRE94]

What would you guys think if Sakurai added Mechanica if he was a fan of Tron Bonne in MvC?

 

[RebelMaren]

What would you guys think if Sakurai added Mechanica if he was a fan of Tron Bonne in MvC?

I'd think he should have added Tron Bonne.

 

[M00NFIRE94]

I'd think he should have added Tron Bonne.

I think maybe Nintendo wouldn't allow it. For some reason there seems to be a limit to how many fighters from another company are added, 3 being the apparent limit so Sakurai would be using Mechanica as a workaround if he wanted a robo-pilot in like Tron. I'm just throwing things out there. Bored.

 

[Megadoomer]

I think maybe Nintendo wouldn't allow it. For some reason there seems to be a limit to how many fighters from another company are added, 3 being the apparent limit so Sakurai would be using Mechanica as a workaround if he wanted a robo-pilot in like Tron. I'm just throwing things out there. Bored.

I don't know if there's a limit for that sort of thing. When Smash 4 came out, I figured that we'd be only getting one fighter per third party company because I thought that Nintendo wouldn't want to appear biased towards any particular company. Then Capcom and Sega got new characters in Smash 4's DLC, and then for Smash Ultimate, those two companies got a third character while Square-Enix got a second and Konami got two new ones plus Snake.

It's probably best not to assume that there's a firm limit on how many characters a third party company can get (within reason), especially with five more DLC characters (aside from the ARMS character) incoming.

 

[MattX20]

Xehannort in the Geno thread pointed this out

Private videos on Available Now! playlist.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2JiZAV5BmDWuBM9nLyEwkdUB5xCSYCJp

And one of them is on New this Week playlist.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2JiZAV5BmDXjI4ZM75o9735edXmVLpd8

And both of them are on Nothing But Nintendo Switch.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2JiZAV5BmDUpBayfo8lcxCXkvTzerwuY

Remember to take this, as a grin of salt, but something to keep an eye on.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Xehannort in the Geno thread pointed this out

You sure it’s not a privated older video or something? That’s what it was the last few times

 

[chocolatejr9]

You sure it’s not a privated older video or something? That’s what it was the last few times

Hard to say. I remember getting notices of Nintendo uploading new videos, but nothing was there. Another wait and see sorta thing...

 

[MattX20]

You sure it’s not a privated older video or something? That’s what it was the last few times

While that has happened, there are cases where the private videos are newer content. Just wait and see for now

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Xehannort in the Geno thread pointed this out

Could be ARMS, could be Pokemon DLC, could be anything else.

Whatever you think it is, remember to hype responsibly.

 

[GolisoPower]

I’ve got my alarm set for before the timeframe Nintendo usually goes with for these presentations (8 AM on my time zone), so I’ll catch whatever this new potentially shadow dropped thing before the info’s spread too much.

 

[Dukefire]

If a Smash/Nintendo Direct or Sakurai presentation doesn't appear this week, then next week will be the case.

Spoiler: Last Year Direct Date for E3

 

[Trevenant]

If a Smash/Nintendo Direct or Sakurai presentation doesn't appear this week, then next week will be the case.

Spoiler: Last Year Direct Date for E3

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Personally, if it isn't this week, I think it's probably the week after.