Confirmed Character Discussion (Part 2)

[Legolastom]

I always thought "Meta" just sounded cool and might have been referring to something mechanical or something... Meta Ridley?

 

[LukeFonFabre]

If we do get Meta Knight's moves, I at least hope we get all 4 of them seeing as we've already kind of seen them. There really isn't any excuse to just show half of them, especially seeing as we got all of Link's and his grab.

 

[Legolastom]

XD If in the 1st three days of December he shows both halves of Meta's move set and a Smash 101 on jumping XD.

 

[LukeFonFabre]

That'd be even more annoying if it is true Japan is getting the game earlier (or was that confirmed yet?)

 

[Legolastom]

... Why Would That Be Annoying!!

 

[gamelover15]

Awesome update, that means Meta knight will be playable at the start. It made sense since we have seen in so many pictures.

I think Icys will be the last spot in the Veteran section and Krystal will be the last spot in the Newcomer section. Why?

Excluding Ness and CF (Who will probably be secret again), the Melee 14 are there except Icys. Also, I think it's Krystal because everyone there has atleast two representatives from their series, excluding Yoshi.

Also, I'm just hoping for those two characters x.x

 

[smashbot226]

Let's not forget Wario, as well. He is a possible standalone charcter, unless we get Waluigi.

 

[Legolastom]

Which we wont...

 

[LukeFonFabre]

And on the off chance that Sakurai has a spaz and accidently lets him in, he wouldn't be classed under the Wario franchise anyway.

 

[Legolastom]

Thats true.

So basically he wont even have a reason to be with his only reason to get into brawl...

 

[Snake King 1]

wario will be bottom tier he's fat uses a fart,and slow
pichu hurts itsell so snake will blow that suicidal rat and that pathetic ecscuse of someone on brawl

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

Awesome update, that means Meta knight will be playable at the start. It made sense since we have seen in so many pictures.

I think Icys will be the last spot in the Veteran section and Krystal will be the last spot in the Newcomer section. Why?

Excluding Ness and CF (Who will probably be secret again), the Melee 14 are there except Icys. Also, I think it's Krystal because everyone there has atleast two representatives from their series, excluding Yoshi.

Also, I'm just hoping for those two characters x.x

1. Just because he was updated, doesn't mean he will be playable from start. Sakurai hinted that there may be a reason why Meta Knight was so late to be updated...

2. ICs probably won't be coming back because I feel they are too glitchy, have two easy and unfair infinites, and have way too many bugs to fix. Some bugs may even be unfixable. The way I see it, they'll either come back totally redone and nerfed-out-the-butt or not at all. With them, I feel that it's either one extreme or the other.

3. Why would he make two characters who started in the last game unlockable again? Not to say that it hasn't been done in other games (Tekken, Soul Calibur, Guitar Hero), but I just don't see it happening with Smash. However, I could be wrong.

4. Well, the other Star Fox representative could be Wolf... or Falco... or Krystal... or, hopefully, all of them!

5. I'm anti-IC. Sorry.

 

[smashbot226]

Ness and CF won't be ulockable, mainly cuz they'll be started up. Just like the last one, although I don't wish to see IC coming back. I'll have Krystal, but I'm really more or less looking out for Wolf mutha f***ing O' Donnel. Also looking out for Lucario and Zelda and Zamus' special moves, Sakurai.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

The only thing I'm interested in anymore is what Zelda's dB might possibly be...

The anticipation is REALLY killing me here.

 

[smashbot226]

Yes, it kills all, Dyce.

New topic:

FINALLY, META KNIGHT IS UP THERE!!!

What took so long, Sakurai?

 

[roy_owns]

Thats what we were wondering all mourning.

 

[brawlpro]

why does it matter, we already knew he was gonna be in, the update is just to show its moves...and snake will be updated soon nuff!

 

[deebz435]

I hope we get Snakes profile next week cause we havent seen anything about him all year.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

I really doubt it. I think Sakurai will want to get all of the 1st and 2nd party characters in first, starters and then maybe a handful of unlockable characters, and then when the days until launch are winding down we'll get Snake, Sonic, and whomever else made the cut. This way the 3rd Party companies can get their advertising in before launch and Sakurai can keep us on the edge of our seats. Then after release we'll get all the remaining secret characters.

 

[deebz435]

I really doubt it. I think Sakurai will want to get all of the 1st and 2nd party characters in first, starters and then maybe a handful of unlockable characters, and then when the days until launch are winding down we'll get Snake, Sonic, and whomever else made the cut. This way the 3rd Party companies can get their advertising in before launch and Sakurai can keep us on the edge of our seats. Then after release we'll get all the remaining secret characters.

Well thought out, that makes the most sense regarding what were probably going to see in the future, sakurai seems to love suspense but he has proven to be unpredictable too, but you still make a good point.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

Thank you for that boost in confidence deebz435. That's the way I invision it, and I have a strong hunch (alongside that educated guess up there) that that specific way will most likely be the way the Smash pieces will fall into place.

Sonic 4 Brawl
And thanks again deebz435. Really. You made my night.

 

[Dragon Master Luigi]

All newcomers announced on the site are all playable from the start(its just like having Wario appear on the site without being in a trailer). Sakurai wouldn't just spoil the game just like that... Secret characters will be announced after the game's release

 

[deebz435]

Thank you for that boost in confidence deebz435. That's the way I invision it, and I have a strong hunch (alongside that educated guess up there) that that specific way will most likely be the way the Smash pieces will fall into place.

Sonic 4 Brawl
And thanks again deebz435. Really. You made my night.

Hey man glad to hear that i made you feel better.

 

[smashbot226]

Alrighty then. If you two are done, and I must say, Dyce, you have made quite a buisnessman of yourself, then lets get back to the topic.

I actually think Dyce is right on this one, though. It seems natural to brng out the third party big guns at the last second.

 

[Shritistrang]

Okay, I really loved today's update, but there are two things I'm wondering:

A: If Mario's Down B is now Fludd, how on Earth can he do his Tornado Spin? Maybe with a Down Smash attack?

B: What will the Electric version of the Pokémon Stadium look like?

 

[smashbot226]

-_-

Take a moment to listen to yourself... possibly a power plant or something... but if you meant hazards...

Unfortunately, Cubone is now deconfirmed...

At least we have MArowak...

 

[Johnknight1]

Yae, Lucario has better chances! Though not much better, but still HARD TO BEAT chances. I am satified!

 

[ylink_underestimted]

sup, back for a quick visit:
wtf, there was no Wed update? well at least today was MetaKnight, but we all new he was gonna come by sooner or later, but i dont think Sakurai shoulve kept us waiting for that (or maybe only u guys since i havent used a CPU since Tues nite). w/e tho, its Sakurai, maybe he aims to piss us off then gives us a character thatll make posts in SWF that go OVER 9000!!! (heh, havent said that in a while). maybe someone like Sonic!!! nah jk maybe Lyn (or hopefully for me Ephraim XD) or CS Link XD. w/e Sakurai knows wut hes doing...most of the time hahahaha

oh n from my post a while back: SA2 is Sonic Adventure 2 Dyce (if no one told u that already) idve thought u would know since yer a Sonic fan...but anywayz:
i really hope SE wont end up like the SA2 effect. that would really blow. in reality, i really think that SE will have a single story, but with different point-of-views of the characters. im hoping for individual storylines still tho...

yay Meta's back in the Dojo!!!
CS Link 4 Brawl
Sonic 4 Brawl
Individual Subspace Emissary Story-Lines 4 Brawl
be back Fri i guess...

EDIT: oohhh...i just checked the Dojo...Pokemon Stadium 2 is cool. tho, the old stages in Melee were pretty fun...n yea? wut does the Electric Stage look like? Mario's vB...FLUDD: a bit strange. but Sakurai implements on it being strong but laggy i think. Mario Tornado a regular attack...i hope he was joking there. Maybe its just vB in air hopefully? (for the recovery process?) n it makes me think Luigi will have the Poltergeist 9000+ (srry cant remember the number...but OVER 9000!!! is the best) as his vB if not as his whole moveset...

 

[Shritistrang]

sup, back for a quick visit:
wtf, there was no Wed update? well at least today was MetaKnight, but we all new he was gonna come by sooner or later, but i dont think Sakurai shoulve kept us waiting for that (or maybe only u guys since i havent used a CPU since Tues nite). w/e tho, its Sakurai, maybe he aims to piss us off then gives us a character thatll make posts in SWF that go OVER 9000!!! (heh, havent said that in a while). maybe someone like Sonic!!! nah jk maybe Lyn (or hopefully for me Ephraim XD) or CS Link XD. w/e Sakurai knows wut hes doing...most of the time hahahaha

oh n from my post a while back: SA2 is Sonic Adventure 2 Dyce (if no one told u that already) idve thought u would know since yer a Sonic fan...but anywayz:
i really hope SE wont end up like the SA2 effect. that would really blow. in reality, i really think that SE will have a single story, but with different point-of-views of the characters. im hoping for individual storylines still tho...

yay Meta's back in the Dojo!!!
CS Link 4 Brawl
Sonic 4 Brawl
Individual Subspace Emissary Story-Lines 4 Brawl
be back Fri i guess...

Meta Knight was Wednesday's update. Today is a double update: Mario's Special Move and Pokemon Stadium 2.

 

[ylink_underestimted]

Meta Knight was Wednesday's update. Today is a double update: Mario's Special Move and Pokemon Stadium 2.

yea i know i got the dates wrong...n check my edit...

 

[Fawriel]

Yae, Lucario has better chances! Though not much better, but still HARD TO BEAT chances. I am satified!

How did his chances change?


I'm actually not satisfied with the Stadium. The changes are too drastic for my tastes...

Didn't think they would change Mario, but it's not like anyone used his vB in Melee.

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

How did his chances change?


I'm actually not satisfied with the Stadium. The changes are too drastic for my tastes...

That's why it's Pokémon Stadium "2" Fabian, not just "Pokémon Stadium".
Don't like change? Stick to Melee. The stage looks like fun, and not broken.

 

[drewdizzal]

i agree with vlink on the down b for mario in the air is his tornado and on the ground its the fludd. makes you think about what he'll do to other characters like dk whose down b doesn't do anything in the air. crazy *** sakurai, always playing jedi mind tricks and ****.

 

[Fawriel]

That's why it's Pokémon Stadium "2" Fabian, not just "Pokémon Stadium".
Don't like change? Stick to Melee. The stage looks like fun, and not broken.

I love how a critical remark about "changes" instantly triggers the "SSBB = SSBM 2.0?!?!"-debate-mode in some people.

I meant changes as in "normal stage -> everything's slippery -> you can jump like you're on teh moon".
I don't like slippery ground. And the Flying-type stage evoked painful bunny hood memories.

I prefer it when just the layout changes.

 

[Legolastom]

I expected the flying stage to be a bit different... but it guess its ok.

 

[Repryx]

Yeah what IS that??? a metal ground with some fans??? BTW I see Dugtrio...But Im willing to bet it will no longer be a tourney stage

 

[Legolastom]

We have yet to see the electric side of the stage...

 

[Masque]

Okay, I really loved today's update, but there are two things I'm wondering:

A: If Mario's Down B is now Fludd, how on Earth can he do his Tornado Spin? Maybe with a Down Smash attack?

B: What will the Electric version of the Pokémon Stadium look like?

A) The general consensus (from what I've read) is that the Mario Tornado will be replacing his Drill Kick DAir--which would make sense.

B) Similar to the Power Plant, maybe? Metallic, with each platform occasionally lighting up with sparks. Electabuzz, Magneton, or Voltorb in the background.

How did his chances change?

I'm actually not satisfied with the Stadium. The changes are too drastic for my tastes...

Didn't think they would change Mario, but it's not like anyone used his vB in Melee.

I love how a critical remark about "changes" instantly triggers the "SSBB = SSBM 2.0?!?!"-debate-mode in some people.

I meant changes as in "normal stage -> everything's slippery -> you can jump like you're on teh moon".
I don't like slippery ground. And the Flying-type stage evoked painful bunny hood memories.

I prefer it when just the layout changes.

The changes are a bit "drastic", to use your phrasing. No longer are the changes merely cosmetic and/or aesthetic; the stage undergoes a series of kinetic changes, and that's a big deal. It still could prove interesting in play, but it's certainly a departure from its Melee counterpart.

And what a surprise that Mario got a new move! It opens up the possibility for a whole mess of veteran move changes.

(How about we get rid of the Peach Bomber? Or just make it a little different?)

 

[Fawriel]

I bet they could make Toad Peach's f-tilt.

You know, so he isn't one of her b-moves anymore.

 

[Masque]

I bet they could make Toad Peach's f-tilt.

You know, so he isn't one of her b-moves anymore.

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Best. Idea. EVER.
Now I REALLY want Peach's SM update!!

(And, really, no one uses her FTilt anyway. )