Owndizzl3r_Ownag3
Smash Apprentice
when is that again? what date?
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Colorado Smash - MVG Presents: REVELATION 2 - MIDWEST NATIONAL! MVG QUALIFIER! May 16-17
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InterimOfZeal
Smash Champion
Also, since most of CO's newer players aren't that adept at doubles (and it seemed to help Kenny, who was notorious for wrecking his teammate back in the day), another Rob post:
Doubles
This one is very short. If you want to win in 2v2, don't play 2v2. Turn it into 2v1 as often as possible; wall out the other player and then go in to help your teammate. Any time your teammate gets hit or punished, the opponent should suffer equally if not more. Any time your opponent hits the opponent, you should be there to add damage.
Teams usually have some kind of skill imbalance, so focus on the weaker player. Force the better of the two to make constant sacrifices to help his teammate out, and you can decrease both players' efficacy.
If you know for a fact that you and your partner are better at 1v1, turn the game into two 1v1s! Before Taj retired and we played a lot of doubles together, I was always confident that if he could get a Fox or Falco off the edge, that Fox or Falco would be toast. As a result, my goal was to keep the other player distracted and unable to assist. Likewise, if I land a grab with my ICs, his goal is not to help me combo them but to keep me as free as I can to punish with all my might.
When Romeo and I played M2K and Zhu, Zhu was doing an excellent job of bouncing me around and keeping me occupied while M2K focused on fighting Romeo. M2K was playing Sheik against Romeo's Falcon, so as long as Zhu's Fox kept shining me, M2K could abuse the character matchup advantage he had to its fullest potential. On the other hand, when I got a successful chaingrab against M2K going, Romeo put all his effort into keeping Zhu occupied while I hit M2K with a zero-to-death ledge CG and edgeguard.
So here's the basics: you want to make it 2v1 as much as you can so your opponent can never gain a good foothold with a combo or edgeguard. When your opponents have good teamwork but aren't as good when fighting straight-up 1v1s, you want to force 1v1 situations and abuse their weaknesses.
So pay attention to fighting with your teammate and keeping the opponent from doing the same. It's kind of general, but it's hard to get into the specifics of it when there are so many team combinations and individual playstyles... I'll be posting much more about doubles at a later date though, so look forward to that
That's all for now. Peace, folks.
Doubles
This one is very short. If you want to win in 2v2, don't play 2v2. Turn it into 2v1 as often as possible; wall out the other player and then go in to help your teammate. Any time your teammate gets hit or punished, the opponent should suffer equally if not more. Any time your opponent hits the opponent, you should be there to add damage.
Teams usually have some kind of skill imbalance, so focus on the weaker player. Force the better of the two to make constant sacrifices to help his teammate out, and you can decrease both players' efficacy.
If you know for a fact that you and your partner are better at 1v1, turn the game into two 1v1s! Before Taj retired and we played a lot of doubles together, I was always confident that if he could get a Fox or Falco off the edge, that Fox or Falco would be toast. As a result, my goal was to keep the other player distracted and unable to assist. Likewise, if I land a grab with my ICs, his goal is not to help me combo them but to keep me as free as I can to punish with all my might.
When Romeo and I played M2K and Zhu, Zhu was doing an excellent job of bouncing me around and keeping me occupied while M2K focused on fighting Romeo. M2K was playing Sheik against Romeo's Falcon, so as long as Zhu's Fox kept shining me, M2K could abuse the character matchup advantage he had to its fullest potential. On the other hand, when I got a successful chaingrab against M2K going, Romeo put all his effort into keeping Zhu occupied while I hit M2K with a zero-to-death ledge CG and edgeguard.
So here's the basics: you want to make it 2v1 as much as you can so your opponent can never gain a good foothold with a combo or edgeguard. When your opponents have good teamwork but aren't as good when fighting straight-up 1v1s, you want to force 1v1 situations and abuse their weaknesses.
So pay attention to fighting with your teammate and keeping the opponent from doing the same. It's kind of general, but it's hard to get into the specifics of it when there are so many team combinations and individual playstyles... I'll be posting much more about doubles at a later date though, so look forward to that
That's all for now. Peace, folks.
Timotee
Smash Journeyman
Snow day DFO anyone?
Also, I'll try to make the halloweenie smashfest, but I have other things to do that day, so I'll give a call when I get free and see if people are still smashin.
Also, I'll try to make the halloweenie smashfest, but I have other things to do that day, so I'll give a call when I get free and see if people are still smashin.
InterimOfZeal
Smash Champion
Honestly, I'd recommend reading Rob's blog to a lot of people. I dunno what your situation is, but he addresses a lot of issues that no one even talks about in person. If nothing else, it gives a little insight into what makes Rob Rob, and I like knowing why people do what they do, so I liked it. Only took about 2 hours to read everything and comment on what I needed to.
But yeah, don't thank me. PM Rob and let him know.
But yeah, don't thank me. PM Rob and let him know.
YangFuShang
Smash Apprentice
yeah i'm getting on
Owndizzl3r_Ownag3
Smash Apprentice
well i think im gonna go to the Tuscon tournament on the 7th! i see that there a big melee state and a while ago I saw how you wanted to challenge them in melee so if any of the melee people wanna come then tell me!
Underload
Lazy
I'll download DFO, fine. MMOs in general are lame, but I'll try it.
Also, I'm really happy you're going OoS Dave. Show 'em what we're made of
Also, I'm really happy you're going OoS Dave. Show 'em what we're made of
deepseadiva
Bodybuilding Magical Girl
O_O
You're flying I presume?
Also, can someone who knows what's happening make a list of what's going on this weekend? There's like five things and I barely know where and when anything is.
Owndizzl3r_Ownag3
Smash Apprentice
no I was gonna drive, still nobody seems interested in going! :l
and friday is the gathering down in colorado springs
Saturday: Is another smashfest in littleton
and friday is the gathering down in colorado springs
Saturday: Is another smashfest in littleton
Underload
Lazy
Dave's earlier post said he wanted to drive to a tourney, so I'm assuming that he's gonna drive to AZ.
1. Friday Night @ McDonalds in the Springs
2. Saturday @ 2 in Littleton, Tranzfest (tranzfestite?)
3. Something Cutthroat-related
1. Friday Night @ McDonalds in the Springs
2. Saturday @ 2 in Littleton, Tranzfest (tranzfestite?)
3. Something Cutthroat-related
Timotee
Smash Journeyman
So some of Kansas is looking at coming to the ranbat, so maybe Darklink should come. I'll see about housing a few people, can't promise anything yet. I suppose if anyone else has expressed interest to you guys, now would be the time to tell them to show up!
And Dave, I might want to go with you. I wanna see dook, even if I have to threaten him to show up. I'll let you know asap.
Oh, and if anyone wants to smash today and feels like driving, you can show up to my house.
This weekend's events:
Friday- Smash in the Springs, I-25 and Garden of the Gods exit McDonalds, 8-11pm. Come for the smash, stay to watch my bang install and run away from Z's tager for 60 seconds.
Saturday- Northern ExSmashure, Tranz's fest of spookiness. 2pm-2am. Where smash is so good it's scary!
I think that's it for smash this weekend.
And Dave, I might want to go with you. I wanna see dook, even if I have to threaten him to show up. I'll let you know asap.
Oh, and if anyone wants to smash today and feels like driving, you can show up to my house.
This weekend's events:
Friday- Smash in the Springs, I-25 and Garden of the Gods exit McDonalds, 8-11pm. Come for the smash, stay to watch my bang install and run away from Z's tager for 60 seconds.
Saturday- Northern ExSmashure, Tranz's fest of spookiness. 2pm-2am. Where smash is so good it's scary!
I think that's it for smash this weekend.
InterimOfZeal
Smash Champion
I wish you posted about it two days ago. I just agreed to go for a speech competition the same weekend. Normally, I'd drop out for a chance to see AZ again, but it's a team event, and I can't let people down so soon after agreeing. =(
Prs2own.
Also, I think I want to start going OoS for Melee again. If there's anything going on in AZ/Nevada/any states where it would cost $60 or less to go, let me know, and I'll try to be there. I don't care if I'm poor, I think this might be good for me.
deepseadiva
Bodybuilding Magical Girl
I'd also be interested!
I might actually get some monies soon. :D
I'll try to keep updated.
Oh, and thanks guys.
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Lazy
Whooooo, Kansas.
Also, DFO is going to take like 2 hours to download.
Also, DFO is going to take like 2 hours to download.
Fluxus
Smash Cadet
Ya'll need to expand larger than the 4 corner states
Timotee
Smash Journeyman
Well, Oh Snap plans have failed twice, along with the No Koast plans this time. We're trying, but I think CO's smash scene is the poorest in the USA.
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Lazy
Because CO doesn't plan ahead 
Moblin (and I think Meno) are all over trying to go to Pound 4. Anyone else? Probably not.
Moblin (and I think Meno) are all over trying to go to Pound 4. Anyone else? Probably not.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
Dave: I'm interested.
Silly Kyle
Smash Champion
Meno, you should totally come down to Tucson!! :-)
InterimOfZeal
Smash Champion
It's funny because it isn't true.Because CO doesn't plan ahead
Moblin (and I think Meno) are all over trying to go to Pound 4. Anyone else? Probably not.
Just saw Pound 4 is in January. I might be able to go, actually. Carpool, or are we all gonna fly/greyhound?
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Lazy
Good stuff Tony. Way to prove me wrong :D
Everyone sane will fly there, or take a bus if they're a little loony. Roundtrip plane tickets are probably around 150 now (Priceline has it at around $146) which isn't too bad. Probably ~200 for a whole weekend of smash, food, and stuff.
And yes, I'm going to ask my parents if I can go. That's why I'm even talking about P4
Everyone sane will fly there, or take a bus if they're a little loony. Roundtrip plane tickets are probably around 150 now (Priceline has it at around $146) which isn't too bad. Probably ~200 for a whole weekend of smash, food, and stuff.
And yes, I'm going to ask my parents if I can go. That's why I'm even talking about P4
Timotee
Smash Journeyman
Oh, and before I forget, Champions Online is having a free weekend this weekend, so I'm gonna try it out. People should join me, just sign up on their site and download the client.
___X___
Smash Lord
Now it's gonna get harder
and it's gonna burn brighter
and it's gonna feel tougher each and every day
so let me say, that i love you
you're all I've ever wanted
all I've ever dreamed of to come
and yes you did come
i want you so bad (so bad)
can you feel it too? (it too)
you know I'm so, I'm so in love with you
i want you, so much
i need you, so much
i need your, i need your, your touch...........
and it's gonna burn brighter
and it's gonna feel tougher each and every day
so let me say, that i love you
you're all I've ever wanted
all I've ever dreamed of to come
and yes you did come
i want you so bad (so bad)
can you feel it too? (it too)
you know I'm so, I'm so in love with you
i want you, so much
i need you, so much
i need your, i need your, your touch...........
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
< It gonna team with Darklink sometime
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
< Is gonna get infracted
I still don't know where this McDonalds is, this Friday... If I miss it I plan on coming to One of the Smashes for Holloween. If I miss that I plan on COmign on the 7th...
Man so Many Smashfest this coming week...
So I would like to know where the Majority of the Melee players are going to be, then I'll go from there.
And Tony, We need to play sometime!
Man so Many Smashfest this coming week...
So I would like to know where the Majority of the Melee players are going to be, then I'll go from there.
And Tony, We need to play sometime!
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Lazy
Wait, what other fests are there besides the one in Littleton?
___X___
Smash Lord
The X FEST! where we do THIS all day long!! (please click link)
http://www.tillerman.net/uploaded_images/sonic-785270.jpg
http://www.tillerman.net/uploaded_images/sonic-785270.jpg
Timotee
Smash Journeyman
Don't worry tails, he's the fastest thing alive, he'll be done in like 5 seconds.
Well If I am correct, there is one somewhere in Springs.
Then there is one This Holloween, and I here Tim might hold one this Holloween after he does everything.
Then there is one this coming 7th, right?
Timotee
Smash Journeyman
No, I'm not holding one halloween, I'm going to go to that northern one if I get done with stuff early enough.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
Dude! When I was like just starting to masturbate....idk what age...around fifth grade I think...If I had a boner I could literally do it in 2 seconds. It was glorious.
deepseadiva
Bodybuilding Magical Girl
...
*frown*
*frown*
Underload
Lazy
Chreest, DFO takes forever to install.
And forgetting that you paused the download for a whole hour doesn't help either.
And forgetting that you paused the download for a whole hour doesn't help either.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
!@#$%^&*()
Ah! But Don't underestimate the Power of Science.
Its the Garden of the Gods McDonalds, Right off of Garden of the Gods exit on I-25. Just get on I-25 and go south until you see Garden of the Gods Exit. You will see the Golden Arches off to the left. So turn left on Garden of the Gods.
Yes on the 7th of November, Here are the details http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8720872&postcount=24087