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Characters' aerial attacks that can be pulled off without lag list

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Talonzz

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I was searching around Aib, and I found this
Link to the original thread:
http://allisbrawl.com/forum/topic.aspx?id=103027
This could be a useful list for competitive play

Credits to the person who made this thread

Full Title: Characters' aerial attacks that can be pulled off without landing lag

Here's a list of each character's aerial attacks that can be shorthopped without landing lag. Note that every single character has atleast one aerial attack that can be shorthopped without lag. These all have been tested carefully in Training mode. Without further ado, I present to you the list. Starting off with-

Mario
Nair
Bair
Dair
Uair
(Or in this case, all but Fair)

Luigi
All

Peach
All

Bowser
Fair

Donkey Kong
Nair
Bair
Uair

Diddy Kong
All

Yoshi
Nair
Bair
Uair
Fair
(Or in this case, all but Dair)

Wario
Bair
Uair
Fair
Dair
(Or in this case, all but Nair)

Link
Nair
Bair
Zair

Zelda
Nair
Bair
Fair
Dair
(Or on this case, all but Uair)

Shiek
Nair
Bair
Fair
Uair
(Or in this case, all but Dair)

Ganondorf
Bair
Dair
Uair

Toon Link
Nair
Bair
Fair
Zair

Samus
All (This includes Zair)

Zero Suit Samus
Nair
Bair
Fair
Uair
(Or in this case, all but Dair)

Pit
All

Ice Climbers
Nair
Bair
Uair

R.O.B
All

Kirby
Bair
Fair
Uair

Metaknight
All

King Dedede
Nair
Bair
Fair

Olimar
All

Fox
Bair
Fair
Uair

Falco
Nair
Bair
Dair
Uair
(Or in this case, all but Fair)

Wolf
Nair
Bair
Uair
Fair
(Or in this case, all but Dair)

Captain Falcon
All

Pikachu
Nair
Fair
Uair
Dair
(Or in this case, all but Bair)

PT
Squirtle
Nair
Bair
Fair
Uair
(Or in this case, all but Dair)

Ivysaur
Nair
Bair
Fair

Charizard
Nair
Bair
Fair

Lucario
All

Jigglypuff
All

Marth
Nair
Bair
Fair
Uair
(Or in this case, all but Dair)

Ike
Bair

Ness
All

Lucas
Nair
Fair
Uair

Mr. Game and Watch
Nair

Sonic
Bair
Fair
Uair

Snake
Uair

The following characters can pull off all their Aerial attacks without landing lag
Luigi
Peach
Pit
Samus
Ness
Captain Falcon
Lucario
Jigglypuff
Olimar
R.O.B
Diddy Kong

The Following only has 1 aerial attack that can be pulled off without landing lag
Bowser
Ike
Snake
Mr. Game and Watch
 
Uffe

Uffe

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Ness' dair has start up and ending lag. His bair, fair, nair and uair don't, however.
 
shinyspoon42

shinyspoon42

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I'm fairly certain most people who play this game were already aware of this for their respective characters, and this wasn't really necessary or helpful. People should stop with the lists, and do something useful.
 
Avion

Avion

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The more common term for doing an aerial out of a short hop with no ending lag is autocanceling (at least with most people I've talked to). Also, why does this list not include moves that land cancel, like Ike's nair? Is that not the same as doing it out of a short hop with no ending lag?
 
sasook

sasook

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Doesn't everyone suffer from 4 frames of landing lag normally, regardless of what they do?
 
Uffe

Uffe

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Cacti said:
It doesn't have any ending lag when you short hop it...

Does it? I don't remember it having any.
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I'm pretty sure dair has ending lag if you get it to the ground which leaves you open.

Twilight Prince said:
They don't have startup lag? It must be great to use a character with 4 frame 1 aerials.

:034:
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Every aerial attack may have start up lag but Ness' fair, nair and bair are hardly noticeable. Compare Ness' dair with all his other aerials. I was talking about attacks that auto-cancel when Ness does his aerials and lands on the ground.
 
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