Character Matchups & Strategies

[M15t3R E]

Yes, Galax, I just got back from work. I go to college and still pull 9 hour shifts 3 or 4 days a week. Plus, I live on my own. Please don't talk to me about how hectic life can be.

Now, you promised to work on posting the match-ups around a month ago. Let's be honest here- I don't care if you are the president of the United States of America, you are NOT too busy to post the match-ups given a month's time. And who said we are requiring you to do the write-ups before you list the match-up numbers? Give us the match-up numbers FIRST! There used to be match-up numbers, however you did away with them for some unknown reason. Put them back up. Most of them are accurate anyway. Then we can all look at said match-up numbers and judge from there.

 

[Ussi]

Gallax I'll go play KayLo and see how to approach her with pika :0

At E: match up numbers are not important as "how to win the match". Motto of the Ike boards lol. Means a match up analysis without numbers is better than numbers without an analysis. What good are numbers if you don't know how to win?

 

[M15t3R E]

Gallax I'll go play KayLo and see how to approach her with pika :0

At E: match up numbers are not important as "how to win the match". Motto of the Ike boards lol. Means a match up analysis without numbers is better than numbers without an analysis. What good are numbers if you don't know how to win?

What you're not getting is that we HAD the write-ups, but Galax did away with them all for no good reason, as well as doing away with all the match-up numbers (most of which are still quite accurate). Why did he do this is what I'd like to know.

 

[KayLo!]

For those who don't want to read the almighty Wall of Text (a.k.a., everyone but Gallax), I would be happy to play any Pikas who want to try out different approaches on me. I'm not a pro Zelda or anything, but mine is decent enough, I think. <3

EDIT: Moved the Wall of Text to the Zelda discussion thread, but the above still applies.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Uh...kaylo...don't post it here. Isn't there a zelda discussion?

 

[KayLo!]

Uh...kaylo...don't post it here. Isn't there a zelda discussion?

Uhh, I dunno, I didn't look. I will now.... if there is, I'll post it there.

I was just posting here since this is where Gallax mentioned it, lol.

 

[KuroKitt10]

i was wondering if we could do that. i posted that idea like a million posts back but no one knew how to do it. If you are able to, you are the man forever.

Yeah. It's a little bit of a "brute force" method, but it gets the job done and looks great. Basically you just split it up into a bunch of different images of each of the characters, and make each one a linked image. Once I get the new numbers from you, I'll split it up, and do up the code for it, and then send that to you.

Mew.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Kitt is awesome!

Huzzah!

 

[gallax]

ok people. seriously. do you think falco really is at a disadvantage against us?

now the ratios say he is. but im changing it here to make pika at a disadvantage soon. im putting it 45:55 in favor of falco.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Yes falco is disadvantage. I still say its at least 55:45 pika. There is no way its even. His kill moves don't really work offline, so you should be surviving forever. Also, you can survive a fresh u-smash from him at like 120% with good DI and momentum cancel. See vid here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTkF5sFNTPc

 

[The Truth!]

I would agree with ESAM.

 

[Ussi]

I would keep it 55:45 Pika. I actually landed the 100% CG cause its so easy to set up. Just gotta get lucky with the fthrow and hope you grab them at the ledge.

 

[Pikabunz]

I don't see it being Pika advantage.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

You can't just say i think so or i don't think so. Give some reasoning so we can either agree or disagree and prove/disprove what you are saying.

 

[Tagxy]

You can't just say i think so or i don't think so.

He just did.

 

[momochuu]

K Prime is amazing and can do whatevuh he wants. 3;<

 

[PhantomX]

K Prime is amazing and can do whatevuh he wants. 3;<

I second this. You can argue against two mods and KPrime, but we will smite you viciously and simultaneously.

 

[The Truth!]

3 posts in 3 minutes!

Also, K Prime sucks!

Spoiler

*Is smited*

 

[Pikabunz]

lol, <3 Tag, Bunny, and Phantom. You guys are going to make ESAM hate me. I'll explain why I think Falco has advantage after I test some things.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Lol not rly, its just that saying something with no back-up is a pain in the ***. Also, thats a very cute siggy, i'm surprised bunny hasn't talked about it yet.

 

[momochuu]

Lol not rly, its just that saying something with no back-up is a pain in the ***. Also, thats a very cute siggy, i'm surprised bunny hasn't talked about it yet.

Lol, in my head I said "Aww, that's cute.."

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Knew it ^_^

 

[gallax]

check out the new chart. i was gonna wait to make sure the numbers were right, but since this new cg came out i figured they are gonna change in like a week or 2 so why not. this is thanks to kitt22 for putting it together for me.

 

[Kenrawr]

Looks great. I thought Lucario and Olimar were supposed to be at least 40:60 but I guess I'll go read up on the matchup threads.

 

[KayLo!]

New chart and numbers look good. Great job, Gallax & Kitt!

But yeah, you're right, some of these are guaranteed to change soon with the CGs, lol.

 

[Rajam]

Eeehhm Noob Question about the Template with the match-ups numbers: What the upper number means? For example, Meta Knight has a 7.7 then a 40:60 match-up ratio.... what the 7.7 means?

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

7.7 means the relative difficulty out of 10. Its so when you have 5 60:40 matchups, you know which ones are actually easier and harder.

 

[Piman34]

nice new chart gallax! and the links it has are very handy as well. One thing though, is it supposed to be like a black space above the pika picture? or is that just my computer? Aside from that, its really cool! Good job Kitt and gal :]

 

[KayLo!]

nice new chart gallax! and the links it has are very handy as well. One thing though, is it supposed to be like a black space above the pika picture? or is that just my computer? Aside from that, its really cool! Good job Kitt and gal :]

I don't see a black space.... Unless you mean Pika's ear, hehe.

 

[Piman34]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn220/piman34/untitled.jpg

hopefully that works, but that's what I see lol

 

[Stealth Raptor]

all i see is pikachu's ear tip

 

[KayLo!]

o.O Weird. I see it as one solid image, lol.

EDIT: I lied. I see it as a solid image on Mozilla on my laptop, but on my sister's comp (which has IE), it's broken up.... but in a different way than yours. I guess it depends on your browser.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

oh and thats a good porn site on that one tab. i use it myself.

 

[Piman34]

haha wtf? what tab is that stealth rofl...and I use firefox...so Idk what's going on lol oh well I still get the gist of it

 

[entY8]

I think you should upgrade to Firefox 3, it should probably look like this.
Looks just as crappy in ie7 for me (even a little crappier - it's putting (nearly) all of it on one line).

 

[Piman34]

maybe that's the problem...I'll try that. Yeah for me, it appears to have MK all the way to Fox on one row with sheik vs PT by themselves, with a black bar for the rest of that row and then squirtle through captain falcon on the last row with picture of pika...oh well Thanks for the right one, it's MUCH cooler :D

 

[gallax]

yeah that black bar is a wtf type of things. it definately should not be there. your internet is screwing up with the awesomeness of my chart.

 

[Piman34]

i see how it is, well my internet thinks your chart is screwing up my internet lol jk, it's a cool chart nonetheless, how did kitt make it?

 

[KuroKitt10]

i see how it is, well my internet thinks your chart is screwing up my internet lol jk, it's a cool chart nonetheless, how did kitt make it?

Photoshop =P

The images of the characters I took from Galax, who I believe took them from around the Smash Boards (I've seen a few other guides use these images as well).

I then cleaned them up a bit, because there were some pixel coloring issues and border issues (they weren't all uniform, and some of the characters had "see through" blotches on them).

After that I made the different colored buttons for each of ratings to go in, and assigned the colors to different number ranges (if you want more on how exactly I did the assignments, I can let you know). Then I stuck them all together on top of an adorable background.

The spectrum scale is just a little elaboration on the one Galax originally had.

As far as the links go, I just cut each part of the main image into it's own image, then made each image a link, and lined them all up together so that it looks like one fluid image!

Probably way more than you wanted to know, but oh well XD

Mreow.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Sounds like so much work O.o