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Guess we should make MK's Dimensional Cape suck too?
But why is what I'm asking. Lucario can act out of it with a charge, MK doesn't need to worry bout nothin' when it comes to his woop. ZSS has Falco-esque pillar combos when it comes to acting out of her Up B. Why does Mewtwo's need to be laggy?
But ZSS's Up B is a recovery move that doesn't put her in helpess and gives her huge Falco pillar combos. Even in Brawl, it did this. MK's Down B you can just act out of as soon as he reappears.
Not asking for buffs. But nerfing Teleport isn't the problem. His tail and his mini Mach Tornado in Neutral air are the problems.
I tried explaining this to Inui and he called me an addict lol. And the funny thing is he uses ROY, one of Mewtwo's hardests MUs XDDD. Please show to Inui xD
Yeah, Roy is pretty hard for mewtwo. People are just quick to jump on the hating mewtwo being a good character bandwagon, I think.
Was a top MK player back in the early Brawl days. Migrated to PM, predicted Emukiller's win at SKTAR 3. You can find him on Facebook. Idk his SWF account.
Ummmmmmmm. The hell are you talking about? Nair has no range? Wasnt there an arguement before about how big M2 is thats why he can grab from behind? Does nair not cover his entire body? And if in fact it does not have range then your hover gives it more range allowing you to move as the attack continues.... Also it beats most attacks because of that continuous hitbox causing other attacks to cancel on hit while it keeps going. Yes its possible to hit him out of it but it doesnt always happen in the opponents favor. I admit that its not completely safe but it is indeed a low risk high reward attack. And your explanation of taking a stock off of mewtwo.. not so simple. Did you forget that mewtwo has a weird weight. Most attacks send him diagonally upwards. Letting him float back most of the way to the stage and then teleport back on. Being able to take a stock that way is dependent on multiple factors. The attack used. M2's percentage. Where they are on the stage. And then maybe.. just maybe you will take that stock. Dont make it sound so simple and easy. I can probably count on two hands how many times I have killed M2 from ledge hogging, little exaggeration, but it seldom happens that way. Anytime I kill him its by knocking him into the blast zone
Yo. Luigi is also hard to combo. Same goes for Samus. Whats the problem with Mewtwo´s weight? Especially since Luigi´s and Samus´nairs are both faster than Clawmbobreaker.
I can see why you disagree, but the thing is that Teleport is not broken, NAIR is. I mean like dang its a mini Mach Tornado! nerf nair and Mewtwo will have no good shield pressure, while being fairly susceptible to it (TP OoS is frame 8, kinda slow for OoS, and his grab has short range IN FRONT of him).
Everything inside the square outlined by the blue and yellow circles.
So everything inside is hitbox? Or hurtbox?
Mewtwo destroys Roy if he has a clue what he's doing. Everything Roy does is unsafe on shield, there's no reason for m2 to ever let Roy hit him.
When you're shielding, a good Roy will not be trying to shieldbreak combo you lol. Do you see Sethlon ever attack shields? Lolno. He grabs. Or uses DDs/Wavedashes back and forth to pressure. Besides, Mewtwo's main KO mkves are all close range, and are statistically weaker than Roy's as well. Mewtwo has to play a spacing game, and Roy can do that decent as well. Thats what makes the MU difficult. Mewtwo's saving graces are the bair amd Roy's inability to land KO moves at higher percentages after Mewtwo leaves the combo into a KO move percent.
Right, because M2 has to ever let Roy get close enough to grab. =|
Do you know what a shadow ball is?
Proof only that you have no idea how to play M2. Not only do fsmash and dsmash have enormous, disjointed hitboxes, but teleclaw has more range than Wolf's blaster, and is near instant.
Well, Jesus - it's not like everyone's KO moves are weaker than Roy's.
Sort of, but m2's close range options beat Roy's (confusion, disable, HC Claw, utilt) and Roy doesn't have long range options - so he ALWAYS has to approach. Yeah, there's a very tiny spacing window where Roy has an advantage, but Mewtwo is so mobile as to render it moot.
If you play Mewtwo and think any matchup is difficult, you've got some problems.
I've learned the MU with about 7 different characters. I've always historically been a better player than my roommate, and continue to be his coach - yet I cannot consistently beat him with anyone now. I can barely even take 2/10 games. When I do, it's because of obvious blunders on his part.
His nair has no range in the sense that he doesn't really extend outwards from his body at all. Nearly every time I do an empty nair near my opponent, they hit me out of it. If you use any attack with range against it you will win. Yes, hover can in fact move the hit box, but if you simply dash backwards or wavedash away (both should be faster than hover) you would then be able to hit mewtwo. This happens to me a lot when my opponent predicts my tele-hover-nair or my hover nair. In this situation mewtwo LOSES his double jump (due to hovering) and you could in theory edge guard him much easier. I may have over exaggerated how easily you can do it, but in all honesty it isn't that hard if your attack knocks mewtwo off the stage, just grab ledge. Most attacks in general send you diagonally upwards, i don't know why you said that. Of course everything depends on many factors, that is with everything in smash. You should get better at predicting mewtwo's teleport and hover because you can punish those very well.
The match up is more difficult for mewtwo than most. Roy can combo him HARD and kill him early. Roy also has a disjointed hit box and good range, two things that are good against mewtwo.
Entirely correct. Roy's got a much easier time of it than most characters for the reasons you mentioned.
Teleport isn´t the problem lmfao. Its NAIR. Which is worse? Teleport, or Brawl Mach Tornado? In this case, nair is Mach Tornado. NERF NAIR.
I'm pretty sure people have an issue with teleport to float cancelled nair and it's invincibility frames and near un-punishability. But yes, nair is hard to deal with. People need to learn to deal with it.
