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[Bones0]

Ledge hop double fair.

You're welcome.

 

[KirbyKaze]

You so silly Bones.

 

[Bones0]

It works.

 

[KirbyKaze]

I know it works. I don't know why a Marth would ever do it though.

 

[Bones0]

To be awesome.

 

[KirbyKaze]

I can't argue with awesomeness

 

[Bones0]

You just did.

 

[KirbyKaze]

You're gay

 

[Bones0]

 

[.Ðempt]

It's better vs Falco's lasers & Peach's turnips I guess but worse vs almost everything else.

90% of the time. Then there's the other percentile where you turn the opposite way when you counter T____T

 

[Dr Peepee]

KK you think I'm kidding I really do think ur mad cute

umbreon: text/aim me pleaseee(both preferably to cover all bases lol)


people like shield grabbing Nair more than other moves so spacing that move funny on shield(esp since it pushes) can lead to good things

people need to talk about Ftilt more. that move hits at a solid angle and wrecks most aerials/jumps

I'm typing this part to remind myself to do Bairs vs grounded people more because I'm pretty sure it's good at least as a bait.

 

[KirbyKaze]

KK you think I'm kidding I really do think ur mad cute

<3 sadly it would never work in the long term

So you're just gonna continue to be my dirty sexy papa bear~

 

[Dr Peepee]

LMAO

and that is exactly what I mean

edit ps <3

 

[KirbyKaze]

I'm coming for that tummy <3

 

[Bones0]

umbreon: text/aim me pleaseee(both preferably to cover all bases lol)

Wow PP, you're a mod. I've gotten nothing against your sexual preferencse, but try to keep your posts PG, please. That is quite disturbing imagery for anyone who realizes what "texting", "aiming", and "bases" are euphemisms for.

I'm typing this part to remind myself to do Bairs vs grounded people more because I'm pretty sure it's good at least as a bait.

If you are ever landing on a plat (mostly side, but top can work too), I like running off with a bair. If you weren't a noob, I would suggest shai drop bair since it's faster and you can space it and hit people by the ledge and a million other things that make it more useful.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

WTF have I been reading. This page on 40ppp is like 9 cactuars.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

WTF have I been reading. This page on 40ppp is like 9 cactuars.

Someone using the cactuar system?

 

[Wake]

So MC is silly.

Also, did this board turn into the Peach boards all of a sudden?

 

[Strong Badam]

This is now the Peach boards.

 

[Wake]

PP is cuter when he shaves.

 

[Bones0]

I miss the Falco forums...

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

So... marth can fair -> waveland off the ledge.

 

[Bones0]

Yep.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

You have absolutely nothing more to say other than that bones? Not even some of that bone house logic?

 

[Bones0]

Once I perfect it, I will talk more about it. I think you have to be within like 2 frames of perfect in order to get it (and I don't claw).

 

[Deleted member]

this is 0 cactuars worth of jank.

you guys are just legitimately gay.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Once I perfect it, I will talk more about it. I think you have to be within like 2 frames of perfect in order to get it (and I don't claw).

Yeah. Its exactly that amount of leeway that you can mess-up. Anymore and you cannot get it out.

this is 0 cactuars worth of jank.
you guys are just legitimately gay.

And that in itself makes it at least 1 cactuar. Otherwise, my love for you umbreon is a 3 cactuar. And I mean it.

 

[Bones0]

Yeah. Its exactly that amount of leeway that you can mess-up. Anymore and you cannot get it out.

Did you just check yourself? I'm guessing yes since you have Dolphin.

Sometimes I get the hitbox at 10/2 o'clock, but I want that extra frame so I get the 9/3 o'clock. :|

 

[Deleted member]

really, really gay.

 

[Bones0]

really, really gay.

Hey man, don't look at me. You're the one that Luvsdics in your mouth.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Yea, having debug mode in like 30 seconds is great. I'm just going to guess that fair -> waveland off the ledge is about as good as sh fair waveland, not all that great.

I give luvsdisc very well. You may sample if you wish.

 

[Bones0]

If they're on stage it won't help much, but it'd make for a sick edgeguard to reverse LH fair into WL off dair. :D

Maybe you could use it as a bait if they're really far from the ledge. They see the LH on (with quite terrible timing/spacing on your fair I might add) and go to grab, but you WL back and grab/utilt/whatever them instead.

 

[.Ðempt]

Never really tried FAir > WL back. Sounds like it'd be something to try to practice.

 

[Bones0]

Yeah, I remember Mahone did it to me (on stage, not from the ledge). It can be good at catching rolls since they see that early fair and think they're safe to move.

Why isn't it easier to fair WL than it is to double fair?

Does Yoshi Story's slant make it impossible?

 

[.Ðempt]

Yeah, I remember Mahone did it to me (on stage, not from the ledge). It can be good at catching rolls since they see that early fair and think they're safe to move.

Yeah, especially when the FAir is spaced (already should be, I know). It'd be good for punishing attempted grabs, or to get behind them (since grab will most likely have passed by the time you waveland, but it sound like you have to space it immaculately). Hopefully you'll understand what I'm trying to say though, lol.

Stuff like this is what I even come on these boards for, not PP's gay talk. <3

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

PPs gay talk keeps us sane and we know you love it as well.

You can fair as soon as the fair IASA comes up. You cannot air dodge on the IASA, but instead have to wait out the fair animation.

 

[Bones0]

Okay, thanks, that makes sense.

 

[.Ðempt]

PPs gay talk keeps us sane and we know you love it as well.

You can fair as soon as the fair IASA comes up. You cannot air dodge on the IASA, but instead have to wait out the fair animation.

Makes sense. Meaning very little room for error, like Bones said.

Bones, you have any videos I could watch of your Marth? I'm at a point where I need to learn a few tricks and I'm running low on ideas.

 

[Bones0]

You don't want to watch my Marth (yet). Watch Mew2King. He spends half of his time at tournaments showing people tricks. lol

Is there any way to let go of the ledge other than the control stick or C-stick?!? -_-'

 

[.Ðempt]

I've watched, like, too much M2K. Just, ugh.

There was this one guy (Meta?) at FC who had an interesting Marth. Was really well versed with edge-cancelling moves.

But as far as the issue with the ledge you're having goes, what are you trying to do?

Also, if I post/repost some vids, can I get critiqued? I don't think I got the Bones (or SVEET. YES I SEE YOU LURKN') advice.