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because if you're ok with playing brawl competitively you probably don't mind the lack of speed and combos etc
Actually the ideal for me is somewhere between Brawl and Melee. I'm really excited about Smash 4. I don't care whether or not aerials have lag because I think a game can be interesting, fun, and rewarding to play with widely varying mechanical rules. If a game has laggy aerials I just adjust my game plan and play the game in front of me instead of wishing it is something else. If the games are different from each other, I think that's really cool. If I ever want to play Melee the game is still here (and PM is here too). If I want to play Brawl, it's there too. That's why I get so annoyed at Melee players, because I think no matter what they won't play the game. I think most of you are wasting your breath even pretending.
I already preordered Smash4 regardless of how close it is to melee
Is it basically just IAS frames on landing lag animations? And that's odd to say because the sentence doesn't make sense. The first part of the compound sentence is a sentence fragment.
That's not auto cancelling. Auto cancel is when the landing animation is short, just like a normal landing without an aerial. What you were doing is cancelling the recovery animation early. That's most similar to the smash community's term IAS frames or "Interruptable As Soon As (frame x)." In Melee, a common example of this is Marth's dtilt. You can attack, walk, or dash out of it faster than you can shield.
For reference, autocancel animations last for 30 frames and for most characters they can be interrupted as early as 4 frames into the animation. (4 frames is so tiny that most people wouldn't notice it at first glance, after all, that is equivalent to a fifteenth of a second.) Interrupting the recovery animation early IS a part of autocancelling.
For reference, autocancel animations go for 30 and for most characters they can be interrupted as early as 4 frames. (4 frames is so tiny that most people wouldn't notice it at first glance, after all, that is equivalent to a fifteenth of a second.) Interrupting the recovery animation early IS a part of autocancelling.
Regardless I just thought I'd elaborate on what I said earlier, about how landing lag has already confirmed to be partially interruptible, with the level of interruption being dependant on what attack was performed.
Note: These are not frame-by-frame, they are simply slowed down.
So here we see the full animation of Link's down aerial landing lag. He then shields afterwards.
And here we see the animation being interrupted slightly earlier by a roll. Note how he bends his legs, but unlike in the first GIF he doesn't then straighten his body and lower his sword.
Landing lag still exists. I mentioned you can cancel airdodge landing lag with a zair. Only chars w/ a zair can cancel the landing lag of an airdodge with a zair.
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Right. I was referring to the claim that Marth's F-Air can now be autocancelled. Didn't you mention that on twitter as well?
Is that really so unreasonable? I don't see how wanting proof = unsatisfiable. And besides you're saying that ALL LAG CAN BE "SKIPPED", right? That's actually a really big thing. I would like to see that with my own eyes.
There are moves that don't have lag on landing because the animation finishes before or as you land. Nothing special as this happens in Brawl.
It is special in the sense that it was rather impossible autocancel Marth's F-Air during E3. All of the Marth mains were worried that the bread-and-butter move got nerfed with a ton of landing lag.
whats wrong with wavedashing? :/
Given that it was the E3 build, this was probably possible in the E3 build? But no one would have thought landing lag would have IASA frames so we all assumed the worst. With my time playing Marth, being able to Fair and interrupt the landing lag was easy and worked pretty well.
Yeah, probably. I guess the majority of us just spent the landing lag frames trying to get our hearts out of our stomach instead of trying to do something out of them.
This is the best news since Sm4sh was announced <3333
clarification game on point. Rascal a confirmed rich homieFor reference, autocancel animations last for 30 frames and for most characters they can be interrupted as early as 4 frames into the animation. (4 frames is so tiny that most people wouldn't notice it at first glance, after all, that is equivalent to a fifteenth of a second.) Interrupting the recovery animation early IS a part of autocancelling.
Regardless I just thought I'd elaborate on what I said earlier, about how landing lag has already confirmed to be partially interruptible, with the level of interruption being dependant on what attack was performed.
Note: These are not frame-by-frame, they are simply slowed down.
So here we see the full animation of Link's down aerial landing lag. He then shields afterwards.
And here we see the animation being interrupted slightly earlier by a roll. Note how he bends his legs, but unlike in the first GIF he doesn't then straighten his body and lower his sword.
Well that's essentially impossible. I love Melee and it's tourneys are the hypest (of the official games anyway) but there are those who will never accept a game that isn't Melee 2.0.
Thanks for clearing things up. Especially w/ info regarding it being the same build as E3.
Unfortunately.
I think people are actually just debating your credibility to know what you're talking about because you seem to lack an understanding of the difference between IASA frames and landing lag.
