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Divinokage
Smash Legend
You are totally playing for the wrong reasons then.. I love losing to Falcon. Style all day
Also, lol at thinking Falcon's bad.
Also, lol at thinking Falcon's bad.
DuckPimp
Smash Ace
kaffei is so good at this game. :D
i was playing kaffei today and i was mostly focusing on getting that first hit or grab down.
trying to bait a jump is good, and instant uair it as an approach, or just try and space nair. carefully. if you throw it out there not perfectly spaced itll get stuffed by the plethora of priority (ftilt, fair, nair, dsmash ugh)
i was playing kaffei today and i was mostly focusing on getting that first hit or grab down.
trying to bait a jump is good, and instant uair it as an approach, or just try and space nair. carefully. if you throw it out there not perfectly spaced itll get stuffed by the plethora of priority (ftilt, fair, nair, dsmash ugh)
JonnyW
Smash Ace
Uhhh falcons not bad. If you didn't know.
DuckPimp
Smash Ace
falcon is the best character
This man speaks the truth.
S l o X
Smash Champion
we don't really have shine / sheik gimps. comebacks as falcon = be in the other players head. you can't b throw > guess once and win, you have to read them like 5 times or be really good after you get that first hit (even the top players don't do it perfect: mango, s2j, hax) but the said 3 falcons do it prety consistently.falcon may be good, but when its tournament time, and both players are on their last stock, I see so many falcon mains lose it,.
i love watching hax comebacks, especially since they are REALLY common.
Citizen Snips
Smash Journeyman
I feel like Falcon scales with player skill more than any other character. If you're a bad player, you won't have a good Falcon. If you're an amazing player, you **** people who are at your level. Of course, there's a point where mental development slows down, and I think that's where Falcons get ****ed over, because there are other people just a little bit higher than them with better - gayer - characters.
Falcon doesn't have any crutches to fall back on except your own ability to be in your opponent's head.
Oh, also that he's really fast.
- characters. Falcon doesn't have any crutches to fall back on except your own ability to be in your opponent's head.
Oh, also that he's really fast.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
Falcon sucks wtf guys.
You will realize, you will.
Hax realized, that's why he hits the bong on the reg.
You will realize, you will.
Hax realized, that's why he hits the bong on the reg.
Citizen Snips
Smash Journeyman
At the very worst he can just pull out his pistol and shoot the opponent.
Right? Why else would he have a pistol?
Right guys?
Right? Why else would he have a pistol?
Right guys?
crush
Smash Master
uhmm .. guise?
S l o X
Smash Champion
Patriots won. ****.
Hoping the Giants can pull through now.
Hoping the Giants can pull through now.
Citizen Snips
Smash Journeyman
I totally and absolutely agree. I hope the same happens for my sportsball team. They had a lot of sports plays and I really watched them intensely focused on the sportsball that was going on.
Sports.
S l o X
Smash Champion
I don't know what that means. Just can't let California take the Superbowl. EC has to be good at something.
crush
Smash Master
i can do triple shine u smash OOS with fox
S l o X
Smash Champion
Divinokage
Smash Legend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJE60F5WAd8 Apparently we played Slox?
Mr Postman
Smash Journeyman
Slox is a scrub for going fox.
random question: How do I perfect wavedash? I can do mine pretty far, but I want to make sure I can get them to the max distance.
random question: How do I perfect wavedash? I can do mine pretty far, but I want to make sure I can get them to the max distance.
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Deleted member
Guest
don't wait as long after you jump/ make your air dodge angle more horizontal
S l o X
Smash Champion
i was just playing terrible the entirety of day 3. i decided to MM people randomly day 3 because apex was such **** and i wanted to play people so i mm'd darrell and kage. (i was going to give sfat / s2j money but i had to go)
that wasn't the MM though, the setup only had 2 controller ports in it. :/
and game 1 was falco vs falcon on bf. (the only match i won)
that wasn't the MM though, the setup only had 2 controller ports in it. :/
and game 1 was falco vs falcon on bf. (the only match i won)
Zhea
Smash Ace
Hey all,
Long time ( relatively, six months or so, been trying to play falcon for about 8 months now ) lurker, first time poster. From the NY, Central New York area, though I live in Troy now. First off, just wanna say how awesome the falcon boards are, the amount of knowledge in scar and s2j's threads is ginormous. Alright on to the questions:
1) What is the best mind set to take when facing down Falco lasers? Should I really put my focus on power shielding them, or should I just eat them and give the bird the buisness?
2) Is it possible to combo out of up throw/down throw versus samus with knee/uair at low percentages or am I always going to get kicked in the teeth by the neutral air.
3) Does anyone remember what thread Cactuar's self improvement post was in? I am still trying to hunt it down and wondering if anyone can help me narrow my search.
Thanks!
Long time ( relatively, six months or so, been trying to play falcon for about 8 months now ) lurker, first time poster. From the NY, Central New York area, though I live in Troy now. First off, just wanna say how awesome the falcon boards are, the amount of knowledge in scar and s2j's threads is ginormous. Alright on to the questions:
1) What is the best mind set to take when facing down Falco lasers? Should I really put my focus on power shielding them, or should I just eat them and give the bird the buisness?
2) Is it possible to combo out of up throw/down throw versus samus with knee/uair at low percentages or am I always going to get kicked in the teeth by the neutral air.
3) Does anyone remember what thread Cactuar's self improvement post was in? I am still trying to hunt it down and wondering if anyone can help me narrow my search.
Thanks!
DuckPimp
Smash Ace
those are not the only two options. generally youre going to want to try to get around them and get really close
Zhea
Smash Ace
@DuckPimp - Let's say for the sake of arguement I end up on FD, how should I approach that, just hop and power shield or are there some other tricks for getting around them?
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Deleted member
Guest
1. I never try to powershield or eat lasers intentionally (some exceptions) but usually I just try to **** him. Falco is unique in the sense that vs him you have to play completely differently than any other character in the game, but I feel once you get the hang of him he's not TOOO bad unless the falco is straight up better than you
2. if you are quick enough, you can up-air samus without trading IF you hit with tippy toes of up-air i think.
d-throw on the other hand relies on crappy DI
3. Marth boards Ask cactuar anything
Zhea
Smash Ace
Good stuff thanks, saw alot of platform play vs th0rn and ballz in your matches at apex so I was curious if the similar methodology was applied in the only no platform neutral.
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Deleted member
Guest
don't like FD because there is no platforms but if I'm playing pretty good FD usually works out fine
in terms of facing falco, you are pretty much forced to go fairly aggressive, even on a horrid vs falco stage like FD. enjoy getting many lasers and barely winning 90% of the time
in terms of facing falco, you are pretty much forced to go fairly aggressive, even on a horrid vs falco stage like FD. enjoy getting many lasers and barely winning 90% of the time
Zhea
Smash Ace
I'll savor it. Anyway, yeah, when I first started I loved FD as it was so open, but the more I play, the more I value platforms.
Mr Postman
Smash Journeyman
As you play you learn to use platforms and it becomes a lot more fun to play on stages like dreamland.
I loved playing on FD, when I first started playing melee, until I learned that I can use platforms to tech chase people and avoid lasers.
I would suggest banning FD vs Falco.
I loved playing on FD, when I first started playing melee, until I learned that I can use platforms to tech chase people and avoid lasers.
I would suggest banning FD vs Falco.
Zhea
Smash Ace
Not that I will be facing Falco's of that caliber any time soon, but zhu's and pp's platform game terrifies me
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Deleted member
Guest
Any competent Falco will **** u 0 to death on fd easier
L__
Smash Master
johnny whats your favorite stage and why?
twizzlerj
Smash Journeyman
I don't know his favorite but damn I like watching him on yoshi's.
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Deleted member
Guest
yoshis story, counterpick me there pl0x
FoD also becoming my 2nd favorite tied with stadium
FoD also becoming my 2nd favorite tied with stadium
twizzlerj
Smash Journeyman
L__
Smash Master
well now i know if i ever face u i cp yoshi to watch combo vide0
i like combo vide0
i like combo vide0
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Deleted member
Guest
in terms of why, my style is more tuned to in-fighting rather than dash-dance defensive camping. Although everyone thinks on paper fox pwns falcon up close.
This is true only if fox is (close to) perfect. 99% of spacies have fatal flaw(s)
way easier to ****/techchase on (small) platforms
potential amazing stuff can happen on yoshis when you edgecancel up-b on cloud to strong knee
amazing can happen on stadium, and you can do sick combos that only work on FoD too
Stadium is a gamble, however, fire is horrid unless u get a lucky **** combo with the tree
FoD has potential to **** block with rising platforms and foxes that camp underneath a plat is tough to deal with
love yoshis MOSTLY though because I AM HORRIblE AT EDGEGUARDING, OMG!!!!!
This is true only if fox is (close to) perfect. 99% of spacies have fatal flaw(s)
way easier to ****/techchase on (small) platforms
potential amazing stuff can happen on yoshis when you edgecancel up-b on cloud to strong knee
amazing can happen on stadium, and you can do sick combos that only work on FoD too
Stadium is a gamble, however, fire is horrid unless u get a lucky **** combo with the tree
FoD has potential to **** block with rising platforms and foxes that camp underneath a plat is tough to deal with
love yoshis MOSTLY though because I AM HORRIblE AT EDGEGUARDING, OMG!!!!!
L__
Smash Master
i'm surprised you like fod
you know any vids off the top of your head where you play on fod?
you know any vids off the top of your head where you play on fod?
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Deleted member
Guest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN9g...xt=C36499bcUDOEgsToPDskJ215jcsCCBjz9PidTrqXiu
5:38
here is an example where a dropzone of this kind is only possible on FoD
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i am undecided, however, if I should still ban FoD vs fox, until I get really used to facing foxes on it I think I should keep banning it but I'm getting better on it each time I play on it
5:38
here is an example where a dropzone of this kind is only possible on FoD
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i am undecided, however, if I should still ban FoD vs fox, until I get really used to facing foxes on it I think I should keep banning it but I'm getting better on it each time I play on it