Social C. Falcon Social

[DuckPimp]

How will I recognize you? HOW WILL WE KNOW?

ill probably have a lanyard on that says duckpimp

and if you see me play ill be the one that is losing

easy to spot

 

[bubbaking]

ill probably have a lanyard on that says duckpimp

and if you see me play ill be the one that is losing

easy to spot

You should just play Fox.

 

[DuckPimp]

You should just play Fox.

get out of here with your blasphemy bubba

you know nothing of my work

 

[Bu$]

Yo, how do you guys deal with over aggressive spacies? what defensive options do you guys use?

 

[Citizen Snips]

Yo, how do you guys deal with over aggressive spacies? what defensive options do you guys use?

Overaggressive Fox: Bait his aerials and grab him. CC his overshot nairs at low percent if you can. If he tries to go shine ham on your shield, instant stomp OOS is great for punishing that. If he drills shield, wait for the shine before you try to grab. It's tough against Fox because he outprioritizes you everywhere and is just as fast as you are. Pivot nair is amazing for this MU for putting out a wall that makes him think twice about trying to jump into your DD with an aerial. Pivot knee is also great if you're trading your pivot nairs. Mostly just tech chase him to death.

Overaggressive Falco: I don't know if this is a thing. The only way I can see Falco being overaggressive is if he doesn't laser, in which case DD and obliterate him. Otherwise, just refer to the regular nonaggressive Falco MU.

 

[Da Shuffla]

Yo, how do you guys deal with over aggressive spacies?

With great vengeance and furious anger.

 

[Eedy]

This might not be the right place for this but how do I deal with a marth that grabs a lot and doesn't approach, every time I approach I get junked by his grabs and tech chases

 

[DuckPimp]

This might not be the right place for this but how do I deal with a marth that grabs a lot and doesn't approach, every time I approach I get junked by his grabs and tech chases

this is as much the place as any

try baiting stuff out by spacing really well with dashdance and then reacting to punish with a grab or nair or sideb or something (grab more often than not)

 

[TheGoat]

This might not be the right place for this but how do I deal with a marth that grabs a lot and doesn't approach, every time I approach I get junked by his grabs and tech chases

I am in the same boat trying to avoid the dreaded marth shield grab (MSG). You just have to play and adjust your nair timing so that you don't keep getting shield grab. Also try to hit behind his shield. And space out moves and stuff. Fight the good fight

 

[Eedy]

I am in the same boat trying to avoid the dreaded marth shield grab (MSG). You just have to play and adjust your nair timing so that you don't keep getting shield grab. Also try to hit behind his shield. And space out moves and stuff. Fight the good fight

To avoid his sheild grab from a nair approach I usually do jab > grab after I nair, if you get close enough it works a lot.

 

[DuckPimp]

gl in your pools, my zenith falcon friends

 

[bertbusdriver]

To avoid his sheild grab from a nair approach I usually do jab > grab after I nair, if you get close enough it works a lot.

lol no jab-> grab on shield is terrible because of how negative jab is on shield and it will never outrange marth's grab. they can just shield the jab and then shieldgrab before your grab comes out. It's like a 1/100 mixup if you've thrown in a couple of gentlemans already, but that's like best case scenario.

 

[kyaputenfarukon07]

mix in tomahawks and watch his reaction

grab him if the marth is still in shield

mix them in there but dont excessively use that

and mix in the low knee +4 frame advantage iirc -> grab

 

[Mr Postman]

Could i get some advice vs peach?
im not necessarily a complete noob at this game but i do have very little experience in this MU. so probably anything will help!

 

[Jeapie]

Nice to see this is still alive :D

Supppp

 

[6VI6]

mix in tomahawks and watch his reaction

grab him if the marth is still in shield

mix them in there but dont excessively use that

and mix in the low knee +4 frame advantage iirc -> grab

Knee is only +1 on shield, people need to stop listening to Blur :/

 

[bertbusdriver]

Knee is only +1 on shield, people need to stop listening to Blur :/

agreed. especially with regards to falcon...

 

[kyaputenfarukon07]

Thanks for correcting that

 

[DuckPimp]

Snips is legit

 

[Mattyboy]

Trying to implement more empty hops into my game as I'm starting to understand the more mental aspects of the game like baiting and stuff like that, when exactly do you guys use things like tomahawk and late aerials?

 

[Twinkles]

Trying to implement more empty hops into my game as I'm starting to understand the more mental aspects of the game like baiting and stuff like that, when exactly do you guys use things like tomahawk and late aerials?

against shields

 

[Eedy]

Jeapie how do I get godlike movement like you

 

[DuckPimp]

Jeapie how do I get godlike movement like you

practice movement

 

[Eedy]

practice movement

What are the best ways to practice movement?

 

[DuckPimp]

baby steps
watch a vid of a falcon with sexy movement
make notes on what they do (how they waveland and stuff usually)
go into the game
practice doing those things
dont worry about speed at first, work up to it

make up routines for yourself or just put on a podcast or something and spam wavelands and stuff mindlessly

and remember you wont be a movement god in a day

 

[Citizen Snips]

Snips is legit

All I ever wanted to hear Minor johns though, my tech skill was flubbing a bit against you. I wish you could've seen my match against Tian. I was playing sooo well

Nice to see this is still alive :D

Supppp

Jeapieeeeeeeee! Where have you been all my life?

 

[Captain Smuckers]

I should've searched for more falcon players at zenith D:
next time fellas

 

[Citizen Snips]

I should've searched for more falcon players at zenith D:
next time fellas

Smuckers, did I play you? I feel like I did, I just don't remember people's tags very well.

Also Orgo-somethingIcan'tremember (Orzo-something?) was in my pool and he was pretty good. I think he got tourney nerves because I did really well against him in pools but he wrecked me pretty good in friendlies.

 

[Captain Smuckers]

Smuckers, did I play you? I feel like I did, I just don't remember people's tags very well.

I don't remember playing any falcons actually so I don't think so D:
wanted to play the man duckpimp himself after he beat my homie ryobrat (good stuff btw) but I didn't try hard enough =\

 

[DuckPimp]

i had another falcon in my pool named ereek, always good to see new falcons come to stuff (new to me, anyways)

ryobeat was tough but i play against a pretty good peach quite often

still hate that mu tho LOL


yeah sorry i didnt really go around introducing myself cuz i was focused on tourney. somehow snips found me (which was awesome) and playing/meeting him was really cool

 

[Citizen Snips]

I don't remember playing any falcons actually so I don't think so D:
wanted to play the man duckpimp himself after he beat my homie ryobrat (good stuff btw) but I didn't try hard enough =\

Dang dude, how did you not encounter any Falcons? I was trying as hard as possible to find Spacies and Shieks and all I ran into were dittos lol

Heck at one point I was on an 8-inch CRT with a 5 Falcon rotation

 

[strongboy]

What's some good **** to know & try in CF vs Samus & Dr Mario? Any chaingrabs or guaranteed throw to knee stuff or should I be looking for a lotta up air juggles?

 

[Da Shuffla]

Uair - pretty much all I know about the Samus matchup

Check out the Index thread, though. It has all of your Falcon needs.

 

[strongboy]

Uair - pretty much all I know about the Samus matchup

Check out the Index thread, though. It has all of your Falcon needs.

Where's that? I've seen something that had a bunch of grab & dair => knee info but I haven't been able to find it since.

 

[Twinkles]

Where's that? I've seen something that had a bunch of grab & dair => knee info but I haven't been able to find it since.

http://smashboards.com/threads/the-falcon-index-thread-new-post-of-the-week-by-magus.307911/

for future ref. though, it's on the front page of the falcon boards and it's literally called "the falcon index thread" lol

 

[strongboy]

Well I see it now. Could use some flashing lights or something..

 

[DuckPimp]

i miss 0room =/

 

[Sensei]

Whenever I start getting bored of Melee, I start playing as Falcon and I'm not bored anymore.

 

[Da Shuffla]

|F|A|L|C|O|N|

My anti-drug.

 

[タオー]

I wanna face some legit Falcon's, missed my chance to face S2J at KoC4, wanna get bodied so hard....