Britches and Hose Mafia - Game Over!

[Kantrip]

@Swiss: Is Sword still leaning town for you?

Vote: Red Ryu

 

[Asdioh]

1. adumbrodeus ()
2. John2k4 ()
3. Ryker ()
4. Sokr (1) Felipe
5. Kantrip (1) RR
6. Sworddancer. (1) JTB
7. JTB (7) Sworddancer, Swiss, Kantrip, Soup, July, Ryker, Adumbrodeus
8. Swiss ()
9. Soupamario ()
10. Felipe_9595 ()
11. July ()
12. Asdioh ()
13. Red Ryu ()

Not voting - John2k4, Sokr, Asdioh

A lynch has been reached!

JTB has been lynched and was town.

Deadline is November 21st at 11:59 PM CST (GMT-6)!

town
leaning town
null or Swiss
leaning scum
mega leaning scum

Current thoughts. Hopefully none of you are colorblind. Ideally, I'll reread and have some justification for these reads, namely the scummy ones.

It's too bad Ryker's gone, but at least it's one less replacement slot I have to worry about. I thought that once I saw the Day's flip, I would look for crumbs from that player to see if they hid their PR somewhere in their posts, since this game has partial flips. Idk if a replacement would do that though.

@adumbrodeus: I remember your scum picks being Swords and Red Ryu. Is this still true? Are there any new additions?

I might as well just ask adum to hold my hand in this game.

@Kantrip: Who are looking into today?

@July: why'd you ask Kantrip specifically?


Vote: Sworddancer

 

[July]

I'm going to re-read before I head in any particular direction. What do you think July? Do you have any leads at the moment?

@adumbrodeus: I remember your scum picks being Swords and Red Ryu. Is this still true? Are there any new additions?

@Sworddancer: Where is your head at right now? Does JTB being town shake up your reads? What connections can you draw from town JTB?

My leads are RR and Swords. Right now my reads look like this:

Town

Asdioh
Felipe
Kantrip

Leaning Town

Sokr
Soup
Adum
Swiss

Null

John2k4

Leaning Scum

Swords

Scum

RR


As you can see my list of scum picks/suspicions are pretty small, I think that most if not all of the scum lies in RR/Swords/John.

@July: why'd you ask Kantrip specifically?

He was here and he was one of Ryker's top suspects yesterDay. But Kantrip has answered everything quickly and honestly, I don't see any sort of scum intent coming from his responses, so he's not someone I want to look into or reconsider my read on toDay.

 

[Kantrip]

Can someone remind me why Asdioh is town? I can't remember.

 

[Asdioh]

(someone will have to remind me why Kantrip is town. I believe it atm, but while rereading he didn't come across as townie as I expected.)

i see what you did there.

no, i'm not scum, unlike some people

 

[Kantrip]

That's funny

I'm serious though.

 

[Swiss]

@Swiss: Is Sword still leaning town for you?

Vote: Red Ryu

I'll make a quick comment delaying my response to this until I can decide.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Revenge is a wine that is bittersweet, and drunks the man who drinks it in his own desires.
I wasn't lying when I wanted your crown, swiss, and it saddens me we have to be this way, but it must.
Vote: Swiss

One of us will die today, so let's give this town a show.

 

[Swiss]

How bizarre.

Details, enlighten us.

Crucify me.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I will dethrone you, swiss, I have become a threat and I have learned your ways.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

In due time, swiss, in due time.

Certaintly a man of your caliber can have patientce.

Although, your lack to strike me down is puzzling, almost as if you're going to wait until I deliver the first strike.

How confident are you?

 

[Swiss]

Whilst working on that, talk to me about John2k4. You might as well chuck in your current thoughts on RR.

Amuse me, what are my ways?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Who did he replace again? He's null, his content has yet to show any worth until he actually does something.

Same goes to RR, they're both useless and good sword practice if you ask me.

But then I would be giving you what you want, and right now me and you both know this is an empty threat until proof can be shown.

You're smart swiss, but can your intellect best a sword to the chest? We shall see.

 

[Swiss]

How confident am I?

Supremely confident.

Let us look at this from an outside perspective, If you had evidence of myself being scum, it would only be logical that it was dependant on Ryker being town (which seems counter intuitive), or night actions just gone by.

Since you pressured me so vaguely, and did not question or probe me on anything specific, you can have no evidence on myself.

Sound logic Swiss, applied strongly. Though I must admit to being slightly more secure knowing that, from any reasonable actions used on me last night, you would not suspect me (by unreasonable, I mean insane cops, gravediggers, paranoid gun owners etc). Wait, did Swiss just crumb VT, or simply town? I shoudl re-read that.

 

[Swiss]

I would like to draw attention to the "Look at this from an outside perspective" before I am riddled with votes by the inept.

Also, Ryker, I am better than you, and would not NK you, since you still fail to see my superiority. In fact, I think I'll PM you this now.

 

[Swiss]

Who did he replace again? He's null, his content has yet to show any worth until he actually does something.

Seik, so he shouldn't be null.

But then I would be giving you what you want, and right now me and you both know this is an empty threat until proof can be shown.

You're smart swiss, but can your intellect best a sword to the chest? We shall see.

Oh, it was empty?

I was so sure you had me.


My intellect does not beat a sword to the chest, but it stops the fool wielding it from striking me.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I enjoy this game we play swiss, and I enjoy watching it play out, perhaps I am a fool holding a sword but you are the king who shall listen to me with a threat, this is a simple game, no?

You're right, I will have to look into that, but his replacement is worthless.

 

[Swiss]

A more foolish man might be confused as to your strategy.

For, from many an angle, it would appear as if you implore and threaten myself to listen to you, then present no case 'nor target for my co-operation.

 

[felipe_9595]

Its my imagination, or RR and Swordancer always looks like mafia when ryker is in a game with them???

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I would like to draw attention to the "Look at this from an outside perspective" before I am riddled with votes by the inept.

Also, Ryker, I am better than you, and would not NK you, since you still fail to see my superiority. In fact, I think I'll PM you this now.

Subtle, nice touch.

 

[felipe_9595]

hey ryker, zombies doesnt talk.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

calm before the storm, swiss.

 

[Swiss]

Subtle, nice touch.

Don't say I didn't tell you so.

 

[Swiss]

calm before the storm, swiss.

I eagerly await your breeze.

 

[John2k4]

Alright, what did Seik do that is causing people to see me as potential scum..?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

@Sworddancer: Where is your head at right now? Does JTB being town shake up your reads? What connections can you draw from town JTB?

I'm thinking right now that it's time for a reread. Most of my other reads were independent of JTB, but I was putting a good bit of faith in JTB scum, and I should reevaluate some things with him flipping town.

JTB town shakes things up a little. It makes Adumb slightly more townie as explained earlier. I don't expect him to have acted the way he did as scum wrt JTB.

July and Asdioh need some reinvestigation, because of how anti-me they became before JTB was even lynched. It's not something I would go off of alone, but the possibility that they are setting my mislynch up (yes I can't prove this logic to anyone else, it's just what I'm using for myself) is still definitely there. More so with July because I honestly think it's less likely that Asdioh is intelligent enough to think that through. >.>

Asdioh needs to tell me how he found JTB to be so townie, because even with meta there is nothing about him that made him super townie. Even a "lazy town" defense is nothing more than WIFOM speculation.

Actually, Asdioh needs to tell me why he thinks I'm scummy. I don't think he's said anything about it other than that he agreed with Adumb.

Besides from them, I would also like to look into Swiss more. If Swiss was town, then he was just on the ride. He didn't really make himself a voice against JTB ever, which worries me about him. I don't remember how much he's actually pushed his scumreads, so that needs to be investigated for sure. I know he's attacked people, but rather or not he's actually pushed them is what's worrying me, if you get my picture.

Also the leaning scum suspicion on RR and Seikend/John is still there, but due to their inactive nature there's not much to push.

Connections? Kantrip JTB was town so there are no connections. Unless you're asking how my reads have changed wrt how people interacted with JTB/the wagon, in which case I refer you to the above. I'm rereading, and people who come to mind right now who need to be investigated are Asdioh, July, and Swiss.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

@Asdioh: Why the new found Kantrip suspicion?

Alright, what did Seik do that is causing people to see me as potential scum..?

Basically Seikend was inactive and didn't provide any stances, which can be interrperated as safe play.

 

[Asdioh]

One of us will die today, so let's give this town a show.

the hell is wrong with you.

More so with July because I honestly think it's less likely that Asdioh is intelligent enough to think that through. >.>

bull****, my scum play would be top notch if I got scum ever

Besides from them, I would also like to look into Swiss more. If Swiss was town, then he was just on the ride. He didn't really make himself a voice against JTB ever, which worries me about him. I don't remember how much he's actually pushed his scumreads, so that needs to be investigated for sure. I know he's attacked people, but rather or not he's actually pushed them is what's worrying me, if you get my picture.

I can agree with this. Swiss' jump on the JTB wagon was easily the laziest one there. He had other scumpicks that he pretty much ignored from that point on. It may be too late to ask him why though, since JTB has already flipped.

@Asdioh: Why the new found Kantrip suspicion?

AM butthurt not gonna trust him >:E

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

AM butthurt not gonna trust him >:E

lol

What was it though that you reed that brought out this new found suspicion? Your 805 implied that you were rereading and saw something from Kantrip that you didn't like.

bull****, my scum play would be top notch if I got scum ever

>Kingmaker

So I should be suspicious of you then. =3

Asdioh you haven't told me yet why you think I'm scummy.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

A more foolish man might be confused as to your strategy.

For, from many an angle, it would appear as if you implore and threaten myself to listen to you, then present no case 'nor target for my co-operation.

Or perhaps it was an empty threat with a cause?
Swiss, i like you, you're a confident king with a stride that says "i'm a winner."

are you Town? absolutely.
is your paranoid of you warranted? absolutely.

Tell me, pity a man as myself and tell me your motives and who you are looking at, you're so vague on everything as if you're just waiting to plot a plan or simply don't care.

 

[Sokr]

Soup, what are you doing? Why challenge Swiss then back away?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

did i ever challenge him?

 

[Sokr]

Revenge is a wine that is bittersweet, and drunks the man who drinks it in his own desires.
I wasn't lying when I wanted your crown, swiss, and it saddens me we have to be this way, but it must.
Vote: Swiss

One of us will die today, so let's give this town a show.

Is wanting his crown not challenging him?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

It's called an empty threat to give your target pressure and attention, i added a mixture of this on-going feud with swiss to communicate with him.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Can someone remind me why Asdioh is town? I can't remember.

*narrows eyes*




Also, vote: swords

 

[Swiss]

I can agree with this. Swiss' jump on the JTB wagon was easily the laziest one there. He had other scumpicks that he pretty much ignored from that point on. It may be too late to ask him why though, since JTB has already flipped.

I alluded to as much before, I didn't and don't care either way. JTB was a perfectly acceptable lynch. Decent. Unremarkable. Either way, he was useless. Useless players die.

Which brings me roundly towards John2k4.

John, give a brief synopsis of your own play, highlighting the main points you have brought to the attention of town and why you believe your scum picks are correct.

I'm sure you already mentioned this, my memory simply fails me in my old age. Briefly comment on Swords' opinion that Adum looks more townie if JTB flips town. Consider the possibility that Swords is scum, what would he have to gain from saying this?

 

[Swiss]

Or perhaps it was an empty threat with a cause?
Swiss, i like you, you're a confident king with a stride that says "i'm a winner."

are you Town? absolutely.
is your paranoid of you warranted? absolutely.

Tell me, pity a man as myself and tell me your motives and who you are looking at, you're so vague on everything as if you're just waiting to plot a plan or simply don't care.

I'll be a dead winner if you keep telling people I'm auto town

Still, you massage my ego. I relent to you, John is scum, RR likely, Swords is a distinct possibility, though I maintain a respectful distance from the wagon. Those who I said are town, are town. If I missed any people, tell me now. This game should not be a long one.

 

[adumbrodeus]

@swiss: Comment on sword's 756. I'll wait until after asdioh answers.

 

[Asdioh]

lol

What was it though that you reed that brought out this new found suspicion? Your 805 implied that you were rereading and saw something from Kantrip that you didn't like.

I haven't reread anything yet. I just remember that Kantrip popped out as scummy to me immediately in the game, and then gradually redeemed himself, but not enough for me to trust him completely. And, as I also learned from awkward moments, I'm not going to keep a static list of reads. Every player on my read list is subject to change, especially since that was really just a "from what I can remember" list.

>Kingmaker

So I should be suspicious of you then. =3

Asdioh you haven't told me yet why you think I'm scummy.

Are you going to count a game I replaced in? Especially one that I didn't read at all?

If so, that's fine, scum won as planned

*narrows eyes*

What exactly is wrong with him wondering why I'm town? If you saw my quote earlier, I (as town) asked the exact same question about him in Awkward Moments mafia. He was generally considered town by most players, and I also had him there, but when I reread that game, I couldn't see why exactly that was, so I asked people.

And nobody really answered and he turned out to be scum and yeah.

@swiss: Comment on sword's 756. I'll wait until after asdioh answers.

I suppose I'll get to why Swords is scum before my reread. I hope to have more upon rereading, but from what I remember, the JTB wagon was the main reason. Prior to that point, I had him as null/town, but his weak push on JTB, and his subsequent refusal to consider that he was wrong, is scummy to me. I was all for the JTB wagon before Sword's case, and even after it, but there reached a point where I realized that it was all just way too easy and I had about as much confidence in JTB being town as I could without actually knowing his alignment.

Asdioh I think it's TvS.

 

[Kantrip]

Swiss, have you decided what you think of Sword?

@Red Ryu: Adumbrodeus or Swiss? Who do you trust more in this game at the moment?

Also who do you want lynched?

@adumbrodeus: What do you think of Swiss at this time?