BrawlBox Q&A and Help Thread

[brawlshifter]

how i start dont mak complicated like a nerd : l

Start what? You have to be more specific. I can already see hacking is not the right thing for you, because if you hack, you pretty much are a nerd. (Not that that's a bad thing in this situation.)

 

[darksamus77]

Hey, brawlshifter, can you answer my question about the in-game portraits? The ones above the characters names in any sort of Brawl, I haven't been able to swap 'em without the game freezing...

 

[brawlshifter]

Hey, brawlshifter, can you answer my question about the in-game portraits? The ones above the characters names in any sort of Brawl, I haven't been able to swap 'em without the game freezing...

I honestly haven't done anything with those yet, so I don't know how to help you. Sorry.

EDIT: I would suggest putting up the files for download so that someone else can take a look at them.

 

[camzy]

What's the font they use for Brawl?

I'm trying to make my own labels you see.

 

[Qarano]

Do a normal model swap. (Check out the thread "The Armory" for some examples of it.)

No, you misunderstood. I want to replace toon link's sword with a beamsword. How do I do this? Also, how do I do a "normal model swap"? I'm so noob at this...

Edit: and just curious, when do you sleep?! lol

 

[pikazz]

how can I modelswap any beams (like lucarios / samus finalsmash and suicunes aurora beam) with any attack like pikachus thunderbolt?

 

[Mr.Chuy]

Hey i was wondering how would i go about changing the background of final destination through the CLR0 and would it be possible to add rain like from distant planet to a different stage?

Just bringing my original question back up

 

[darksamus77]

I honestly haven't done anything with those yet, so I don't know how to help you. Sorry.

EDIT: I would suggest putting up the files for download so that someone else can take a look at them.

They're the .brres files in the All Brawl Files thread under the portrite folder

 

[brawlshifter]

how i start dont mak complicated like a nerd : l
i got da gecko thingy now wat? <@:'(

Stop spamming. Try the Hacking Support Thread.

No, you misunderstood. I want to replace toon link's sword with a beamsword. How do I do this? Also, how do I do a "normal model swap"? I'm so noob at this...

Toon Links sword is currently impossible, or extremely complicated. To learn how to do a model swap, go to this thread.

Edit: and just curious, when do you sleep?! lol

Depends on where you live.

how can I modelswap any beams (like lucarios / samus finalsmash and suicunes aurora beam) with any attack like pikachus thunderbolt?

You would need to find the graphics you want to swap and do a normal model swap. The pokemon graphics are in the Common3, and the Final Smash graphics are in the FitCharacterFinal.pacs.

They're the .brres files in the All Brawl Files thread under the portrite folder

I'm meant put yours up for download.

 

[Mr.Chuy]

Hey i was wondering how would i go about changing the background of final destination through the CLR0

I'm still trying to figure this out anybody know where it is in the pac?

 

[Tiberious]

Ok, now what I'm trying to do is completely delete Red Alloy's polygon4 (the stomach grid, which I think is the piece that crashes AIS).

How do I do this and KEEP it gone?

The error I keep getting is:
ERROR: Unknown next type in polygon block ( b0 @ c761 ). If I could even CHANGE the type of polygon it uses to a 'known' one, that would work too.

 

[pikazz]

You would need to find the graphics you want to swap and do a normal model swap. The pokemon graphics are in the Common3, and the Final Smash graphics are in the FitCharacterFinal.pacs.

the problem is, I cant open the models in Common3
then I make a modelswap on Finalsmash graphics in "FitCharacterFinal.Pacs" they are invisible
and I have tried to find R.O.B. fullcharged laser but I cant find it o,o
i am blind XD

 

[CJTHeroofTime]

How do you edit textures with brawlbox? Is there any guide?

 

[PyroChameleon]

Has anyone figured out how to swap animations without the distortion, or do you have to go into every single bone and resize it manually?

Edit:

How do you edit textures with brawlbox? Is there any guide?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l48dhTatABg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wls3QaF5_7I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7hXwnbOOvI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0stCUR-XvMo

 

[CJTHeroofTime]

^ You=awesome.
Thanks!

 

[brawlshifter]

I'm still trying to figure this out anybody know where it is in the pac?

It might be Scene Data, or it could be one of the models. Preview them all.

Ok, now what I'm trying to do is completely delete Red Alloy's polygon4 (the stomach grid, which I think is the piece that crashes AIS).

How do I do this and KEEP it gone?

The error I keep getting is:
ERROR: Unknown next type in polygon block ( b0 @ c761 ). If I could even CHANGE the type of polygon it uses to a 'known' one, that would work too.

You can't just delete a polygon, you have to use Sqleon's tool. (Check the "Automatic Polygon Deleter" thread)

the problem is, I cant open the models in Common3
then I make a modelswap on Finalsmash graphics in "FitCharacterFinal.Pacs" they are invisible
and I have tried to find R.O.B. fullcharged laser but I cant find it o,o
i am blind XD

Why can't you open models in the Common3?

How do you edit textures with brawlbox? Is there any guide?

Find the textures you want to edit, right click>export, edit your textures, then right click>replace.

EDIT: Ninja'd

Has anyone figured out how to swap animations without the distortion, or do you have to go into every single bone and resize it manually?

Edit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l48dhTatABg

You answered your own question.

 

[PyroChameleon]

I was just wondering if there was an easier way.

 

[Mr.Chuy]

It might be Scene Data, or it could be one of the models. Preview them all.

I did and may have found it i just don't know which one to edit

 

[pikazz]

Why can't you open models in the Common3?

wierd, I can open pokemons effect models in the Common3 in 0.60 but not in 0.62 o_o

that bug need to be fix'd!

 

[brawlshifter]

wierd, I can open pokemons effect models in the Common3 in 0.60 but not in 0.62 o_o

that bug need to be fix'd!

Are you using 0.62a? Those errors were fixed in 0.62b. If you are using b, report it in the BrawlBox thread.

 

[pikazz]

Are you using 0.62a? Those errors were fixed in 0.62b. If you are using b, report it in the BrawlBox thread.

I thought I used 62b but I will double check it

sorry, my fault ;_;

but are you sure any "effect" model working with a normal model swap?

 

[brawlshifter]

I thought I used 62b but I will double check it

sorry, my fault ;_;

but are you sure any "effect" model working with a normal model swap?

Yes, it works.

 

[Grey Belnades]

I've made custom walk fast and walk slow animations for Lyn but every time I use them in game, she appears to have the same speed as if I were running or if the game speed was set at 1.5.

You guys are so helpful.

 

[brawlshifter]

You guys are so helpful.

@Everyone, not just you: If someone (me [because it seems like I'm almost the only one answering questions]) doesn't answer your questions, it doesn't mean they (I) ignored you, it means they (I) don't know the answer. Do you guys just want me to say I don't know?

@Gamingblack: I guess you could just try slowing her down.

 

[DoB04]

ok im pretty new to this so nvm me if i sounds noobish...
k so i am trying to load Mew onto any character (besides alloys) and it he worked on both olimar and ice climbers (sorta)... the thing is, whenever i try using forward b or dair or some other motions with olimar as mew, it freezes... im not sure but i think i saw somewhere that this is unfixable... is this true? he also cant shield so thats a bummer... when i loaded him on ice climbers, he couldnt shield either but i couldnt see him (he was invisible while nana was visible... weird O.o) anybody know how to fix this yet? if not, then does anybody know how to make him visible on the ice climbers and how to delete nana?

 

[Eldiran]

@Everyone, not just you: If someone (me [because it seems like I'm almost the only one answering questions]) doesn't answer your questions, it doesn't mean they (I) ignored you, it means they (I) don't know the answer. Do you guys just want me to say I don't know?

I second this. When people don't respond, 90% of the time it is because they have no info to give and cannot solve the problem. Instead of trying to call people on it, posters should reiterate their problem while providing more details and info. Just reposting the same information doesn't help.

Maybe you could add something like this as a note to the OP, brawshifter?

 

[brawlshifter]

I second this. When people don't respond, 90% of the time it is because they have no info to give and cannot solve the problem. Instead of trying to call people on it, posters should reiterate their problem while providing more details and info. Just reposting the same information doesn't help.

Maybe you could add something like this as a note to the OP, brawshifter?

Good idea. I was thinking about that for a while now.

 

[DoB04]

oh and btw, on a sidenote, does anybody know why does mew have eyes under his feet? does it look like that during his pokeball animation ingame? pretty weird lol

 

[Grey Belnades]

@Gamingblack: I guess you could just try slowing her down.

But that's the thing, I have no idea what's causing her walk slow/fast animation go with that kind of speed, maybe the cause is in the pac file?

 

[brawlshifter]

But that's the thing, I have no idea what's causing her walk slow/fast animation go with that kind of speed, maybe the cause is in the pac file?

Check if there is a momentum event in there.

 

[superyoshi888]

oh and btw, on a sidenote, does anybody know why does mew have eyes under his feet? does it look like that during his pokeball animation ingame? pretty weird lol

Er...in game or in Brawl Box? If it is Brawl Box, then it's probably just the texture being mapped incorrectly. I know that for me, Kirby shows up with two sets of eyes, even without adjustments.

 

[Qarano]

How do I delete entire frames of an animation, so I can cut up a tilt animation and use it for a smash?

Also, does anyone know any good assist trpophies from which I can pull animations to use with a snake PSA?

 

[Eldiran]

How do I delete entire frames of an animation, so I can cut up a tilt animation and use it for a smash?

Also, does anyone know any good assist trpophies from which I can pull animations to use with a snake PSA?

To delete frames from an animation, go to that frame in the model previwer and press "Delete".

You'd probably be better off pulling animations from other characters, considering ATs' bones usually don't even remotely match up. If I had to suggest one, though, I'd say Grey Fox.

 

[Christian_CAO]

I was wondering if anyone could give me a little info for Brawl Box. I haven't been able to preview models at all. I always get that "Unhandled exception" error thing. I have
Microsoft Framework.net 3.5 installed on my computer, I have a ATI RADEON Graphics card and a Video card that is higher than 1.1, and I still can't view the models. I gave my brother the program from my computer and he was able to preview models, so it's not the program.
I've scoured my laptop from top to bottom, searched every nook and cranny(probably not as though-rough or this problem would have been solved already) . I have Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 and the latest Active X, some thing about Just In Time debugging in the details of the error message:

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.AccessViolationException: Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt.
at BrawlLib.OpenGL.wGL.glClear(GLClearMask mask)
at BrawlLib.OpenGL.wGlContext.glClear(GLClearMask mask)
at System.Windows.Forms.ModelPanel.OnRender()
at BrawlLib.OpenGL.GLPanel.OnPaint(PaintEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.PaintWithErrorHandling(PaintEventArgs e, Int16 layer, Boolean disposeEventArgs)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmPaint(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.UserControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4200 (NetFxQFE.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
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BrawlBox
Assembly Version: 0.62.3658.42132
Win32 Version: 0.62.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Users/Christian/Desktop/Brawl%20Box/BrawlBox.exe
----------------------------------------
BrawlLib
Assembly Version: 0.9.3658.42131
Win32 Version: 0.09.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Users/Christian/Desktop/Brawl%20Box/BrawlLib.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.
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Any kind of Response, positive or negative, would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your patience.

 

[Tiberious]

You can't just delete a polygon, you have to use Sqleon's tool. (Check the "Automatic Polygon Deleter" thread)

I've tried the polygon 'deleter'. Problem is, it still won't allow me to get the model to work with AIS.

Why am I so hot to get the Alloys to work with it?

Green is the only one of the four AIS will convert. I added the colors manually, but see how smooth he looks?

On the other hand, we have... this:

It's the result of running a geometry extactor on the model previewer in BrawlBox. Notice that it's... really screwed up with smooth shading on?



As I've said before: I'm certain that it's the polygon4 section that error AIS out. It's the section that Green Alloy doesn't have (remember, he converts) that the other 3 do. Pharrox told me early on that the error meant it encountered an unknown polygon type. The question now becomes:

If I can't actually delete the problem section, how would I change what kind of geometry it uses?

 

[b2j135]

It was ignored because its in the wrong thread.

Could you link me to the right one please?

 

[Mr.Chuy]

Could you link me to the right one please?

Here this is where it should have been asked

 

[Eldiran]

Christian CAO, you should try disabling Themes or Aero or whatever it's called. That's what caused the problem on my computer, and it may work for you.

 

[darksamus77]

Ok, anyone here have any experience with in-game battle portraits?

 

[God of Humility]

I'd like to start animation editing for the Young Link project, but have no idea where to start. I know I have to edit the Motion.pac, and I have never done this before.

Is there a guide on it or something, I searched and found nothing.