Brawl model extractor

[illinialex24]

Lol it's ok. Today is a great hack day

 

[D.B.K.]

Lol it's ok. Today is a great hack day

I just hope this isn't one big mind**** like the wild goose chase before PSA.

 

[illinialex24]

It shouldn't be, this is amazing but Pharrox didn't set it up like PSA. And we got B+ without Homebrew now.

 

[dabridge]

YESZ! I've been waiting forever for this.

 

[mofo_]

wow next thing you know, people will be making custom model stages :oOooOOOoo

cant wait for thisss!!!!!! i needs me my mew2

 

[Ihatecompvir]

wow next thing you know, people will be making custom model stages :oOooOOOoo

THIS is what excites me. Being able to play in your own home town, or something like that, makes me excited.

 

[illinialex24]

Yeah I want Hyrule 64.

 

[mofo_]

pharrox can you show screenshots or pics pls?

 

[stickman]

Good job Pharrox! Although I have no idea just what you imported (just a character disassemble and reassemble, or actually a new model), it is still good news.

 

[illinialex24]

He's done a disassemble reassemble before so it's got to be a new model.

 

[cuckoos]

I was thinking:
While editing a character model, would you be able to place another model in the same editing file, save it, and inject it (or whatever the method will be) into the brawl ISO, will the new model operate (animations, etc) like the model it replaced?

EX: You open, i.e, the Lucario model file, and replace the model with the 3D model of Mewtwo for SSBM? I know this sounds a little bit odd and extreme, but would it be possible? Just need some estimates or opinions.

 

[illinialex24]

It definitely wouldn't work for a character of a different game.

 

[Boo Mansion]

I believe I read somewhere that simply replacing Lucario's model with Mewtwo's won't do much. Didn't Pharrox or someone say that the model takes the shape of what the animations are set to do or something like that? If that's the case then we'll need to make animations that work for Mewtwo, so his model won't try to take the shape of Lucario.

It makes sense if you think of how the move swap character codes cause the models to take shape of their move replacement's animations. Remember Pikaman?

 

[illinialex24]

It wouldn't work anyway because it's stored differently almost certainly.

 

[cuckoos]

Okay, thanks!
But imagine if we could... We could make characters from any game, provided we had models for them. XD

 

[illinialex24]

If you get a .dae of them you'd be fine. But otherwise...

 

[DarkDragoon]

Well!

This makes me happy.
-DD

 

[Gregory2590]

*waits*

10hype

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

No one answered my question.

I can't find the extracted files.

Also, if we open a trophy from Brawl, can that be applied to a model?

 

[cuckoos]

No one answered my question.

I can't find the extracted files.

Also, if we open a trophy from Brawl, can that be applied to a model?

Kinda like the question I asked earlier.

Probably no, because like one of the people answered:
"Didn't Pharrox or someone say that the model takes the shape of what the animations are set to do or something like that? If that's the case then we'll need to make animations that work for Mewtwo, so his model won't try to take the shape of Lucario.

It makes sense if you think of how the move swap character codes cause the models to take shape of their move replacement's animations. Remember Longchu?"

 

[DarkDragoon]

Kinda like the question I asked earlier.

Probably no, because like one of the people answered:
"Didn't Pharrox or someone say that the model takes the shape of what the animations are set to do or something like that? If that's the case then we'll need to make animations that work for Mewtwo, so his model won't try to take the shape of Lucario.

It makes sense if you think of how the move swap character codes cause the models to take shape of their move replacement's animations. Remember Longchu?"

No, iirc, the problem with using trophies as they were was because they did not have bones for the game to read as a character's.
-DD

 

[GadgetTR]

The way I understand it, we should just be able to open the Lucario model, delete all the geometry, import Mewtwo's model, stretch parts of him around so that he lines up with Lucario's skeleton, rig him to the bones, and then save. I can't see any reason why this wouldn't work. This same method should theoretically work with most ATs, too.

Of course, Mewtwo would be in Lucario's poses, but it's still better than any texture hack.

I'm sure this has been said before.

Please confirm this, Pharrox. Also screenshot's would be nice.

 

[illinialex24]

Nah, we'd have the edit him to be like Mewtwo's model.

 

[cuckoos]

The way I understand it, we should just be able to open the Lucario model, delete all the geometry, import Mewtwo's model, stretch parts of him around so that he lines up with Lucario's skeleton, rig him to the bones, and then save. I can't see any reason why this wouldn't work. This same method should theoretically work with most ATs, too.

Of course, Mewtwo would be in Lucario's poses, but it's still better than any texture hack.

I'm sure this has been said before.

Please confirm this, Pharrox. Also screenshot's would be nice.

That's what I thought. :o
I was in my room last night looking for ways to fit the bone structure of the character I was editing. Didn't seem to find a way to make it work...
Well if anyone can do it, Pharrox or PhantomWings can!

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

Hmm. Well I guess I could create the model by hand.

I still can't find the extracted files.

 

[cuckoos]

Hmm. Well I guess I could create the model by hand.

I still can't find the extracted files.

That would probably take a while. Ripping models from other games would be the best approach to this.

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

That would probably take a while. Ripping models from other games would be the best approach to this.

Well then...looks like I'll have to buy Super Mario Sunshine again. Or rent it.

How would I go about ripping a model out of there?

 

[...:::VILE:::...]

Pharrox, I Is Your Beta Tester!, Send Me Pronto!

 

[Shadic]

Sweet. Of course, I'm gone all next week... I guess it'll make it so I won't have to sit around and be overhyped.

Somebody work on editing Marth to be Roy now.

 

[Msingh0]

he only said success not that he'll release it

 

[pghazanfari53]

I'd like to beta test it too please. I got a lot of spare time on my hands.

 

[...:::VILE:::...]

Do you have any modeling experience?

 

[DarkDragoon]

Do you have any modeling experience?

>_> I do. Plus I'm headed back to college where I study this junk. I have 3ds Max and I've been messing with stuff on and off.
-DD

 

[...:::VILE:::...]

Im assuming Pharrox would be wanting someone who knows quite a bit on modeling.

BTW, this has gotten me pumped to work on a model, get ready for epic...

 

[Shadic]

Take Brawl Marth, add Melee Roy's head/hair!

 

[Knightcrawler]

Let's hope people aren't that lazy, Shadic.

Congratulations, Pharrox! I knew you could do it. Thank you so much for getting it working! With any luck, I'll be able to start working on models again soonish.

 

[_Vuze_]

Hi guys and gals,
I am new to this community
Congrats Pharrox, pictures or even videos would be awesome Can't wait for the release and start modeling

 

[crazy brawler]

i hope this will be possible with the file patch code when it will be updated

 

[Daakun]

i hope this will be possible with the file patch code

Character models are in the same files as their textures, and those work just fine.
So... yeah.

 

[...:::VILE:::...]

Sigh, for the last time, it will work just like a texture, its the same file.