Brawl 64 - Don't Get Hit

[kenshen]

well well ill have to start playing the *** version to give good suggestions.

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

Does Falcon keep his Knee still?

 

[Tommy_G]

Does Falcon keep his Knee still?

Falcon Punch is the Knee's Smash 64 equivalent. Smash 64 is a step up from the others so Falcon's gotta be more intense.

I'd much rather see a Zcanceled Uair to a Falcon Punch than a Knee to a Knee

 

[Sneak8288]

... okay?

It's not like I'm taking the japanese version as word of god. But it definitely has one or two things which help characters. Except for Fox being nerfed relative to the NA release. His Up-B with invincibility... It doesn't necessarily seem broken... but it's a bit much.

Isn't there a difference in the ability to DI? I'm not 100% sure tho

 

[Slashy]

Isn't there a difference in the ability to DI? I'm not 100% sure tho

There isn't any DI at all I believe.

 

[MonkUnit]

IIRC if you get hit, you can DI it but it does not change your direction. Such as if you are sent up and to the right, DI'ing down won't change your angle. You will still travel up and right.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Yeah, no trajectory DI, which is what I'm using.

 

[Utterrandomness]

This mod actually seems really interesting. Can't wait to see it further in development!

 

[GP&B]

Smash DI is the only kind of DI in SSB64. There are a spawn of DI tricks that can be done with it though, such as sliding DI and ledge DI (which still exists in Melee and Brawl, but is much easier to do here).

Also, I don't know if it was mentioned, but Ness' DJC needs to be changed so that he doesn't immediately drop but just halts upward momentum. If you don't know what I mean, just test the differences between 64 Ness and Melee Ness' DJC.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I totally know what you're talking about, since I main Ness in 64.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

I liked your last title better.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I got to change the title again.

I decided not to quit Brawl.

I just picked up a character who carries over between Melee and Brawl to a certain extent.

*EDIT* hell, even Brawl Minus.

 

[MonkUnit]

I see you put your smash character as Young Link. How does Young Link transfer between brawl and minus? LOL Toon Link is not anywhere near the same as YL.

 

[ElDominio]

I see you put your smash character as Young Link. How does Young Link transfer between brawl and minus? LOL Toon Link is not anywhere near the same as YL.

He mains Sonic now :3

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I didn't say to a large extent lol.

Is there any character who carries over completely between the two? Probably not.

 

[Sneak8288]

I didn't say to a large extent lol.

Is there any character who carries over completely between the two? Probably not.

marth kinda does

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Marth and Jigglypuff.

 

[Shorts]

Will Zelda and Sheik be seperate characters? I would find them to be just worse then everyone else if you took away one of ther Specials, but left the transformation.

And what about ZSS/Samus?

 

[kenshen]

both good questions and what about pt as well since were on subject

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I'm remapping side specials to down special as soon as I finish figuring out this fighter.pac injection, and then modifying the new down specials as necessary.

PT will be all independent, Zelda/Sheik will also be independent, as there's no real way to fix the transform time.

ZSS/Samus will of course be independent. As to Samus... I'm currently looking into remapping Smash B to down... for a new attack.

Also, apologies to fans of Falco's Melee moveset, I've decided he'll be keeping much of his Brawl moveset, including the reflector kick.

 

[MonkUnit]

@samus idea, no. Do not remove bombs. <_<

 

[Supreme Dirt]

What? I'm not removing bombs.

I'm giving her a Smash V B in addition to bombs, if possible.

It's mostly I want to keep her Smash B if possible.

 

[MonkUnit]

Ah okay .

 

[Tommy_G]

What was the idea?

 

[Supreme Dirt]

He thought I was removing the bombs, I guess since I mentioned how I'm doing a general remap of side special to down special (mostly because I've heard how PT can't be given a proper down special.)

Smash V B will be a power-bomb if possible, most likely done by modifying the Super Missile.

 

[Tommy_G]

I figured it'd be a power bomb :D or a switch from Samus to ZSS button.

 

[standardtoaster]

He thought I was removing the bombs, I guess since I mentioned how I'm doing a general remap of side special to down special (mostly because I've heard how PT can't be given a proper down special.)

Smash V B will be a power-bomb if possible, most likely done by modifying the Super Missile.

Giving down specials to PT pokemon is fairly easy. However, it only works properly if you use independent pokemon.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Oh, I see. Since I plan on doing independent Pokémon, I guess I'm good to go.

 

[Sneak8288]

omg falco's brawl moveset, i definitely know what char i'm not using

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Alright, then don't. I'm not forcing you to play Falco. Also, it's more a combination of Brawl and Melee.

 

[MonkUnit]

How is it a combo of brawl and melee if you're keeping the brawl moveset.

 

[kenshen]

How is it a combo of brawl and melee if you're keeping the brawl moveset.

he said much no all jeez ಠ_ಠ

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Like... Brawl FAir is kind of silly. Since Fox has his 64 FAir, giving Falco his Melee FAir isn't a clone.

The thing is, I find large amounts of Falco's Melee moveset to be silly, in comparison to his Brawl moveset.

He is a BIRD. His moveset in some way should reflect that.

 

[Sneak8288]

like how fox has a fox type moveset?

 

[tera twin]

^ lol .

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Yeah, but Fox already existed in 64, and for the most part I`m keeping the original characters' movesets intact, though I'm buffing the A tier and below characters slightly to keep up with Fox and Pikachu.

 

[MonkUnit]

I really think Falco's melee fair would work well in N64.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Yeah, I think so too.

 

[kenshen]

so how is link being buffed? cause i like link 64..

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Haven't gotten there yet. Right now I'm more worried about other things, like, y'know, getting the characters back to their 64 forms. Learning to animate in Brawlbox and figuring out knockback, which is largely trial and error, is a bit time consuming.