The fact that there is just as much possibility that they are scum on D1 whilst even if they are town we lost one of the two guys whom will most likely try and explain each others actions all the time and metagame the **** out of each other and all around be unhelpful is reason enough to vote for them.
You obviously haven't been reading.
Besides the scumtells I've found on Ryker, this is something I'm worried about as well
Look at how much of today's discussion has been centered around these two, it's ridiculous, and completely distracting us from scumhunting elsewhere as well
lol good reasoning skills there. You have no reason to think that we aren't both townies other than a hunch. You could be right, Ryker might very well be a mafia. I personally don't think he is, but he hasn't made a single move that would make him look scum yet and yet you want to just lynch someone for the hell of lynching them.
Earlier you said, you wanted me lynched because you thought I was detrimental to the town. Then you said that you would be up for lynching either Ryker or I. Now you are saying that you think at least one of us must be a mafia. So, you keep pushing for a quick lynch of one of us, but to do so you have to keep changing your explanation of why. So, which is it? Are we detrimental townies or is one of us mafia? I think the correct answer is that you are the mafia and you don't care which of us gets lynched as long as it is a mislynch which is why you are pushing for this quick-lynch.
Vote: KevinM
How is it pushing for a quick lynch? lol that doesn't really make sense. So he switched his vote, at least Kevin's normally provided a reason for each time.
Lynching players because of terrible play is very scummy. It's a very non-commitial stance to take and easy for scum to play.
Then if we don't find anyone scummy do you suggest a No Lynch? This isn't the case with me, I've found my day 1 suspect.
And the scum know he's the doctor and can't get protection how? That's not an uncommon set-up, but the odds are against it happening. I disagree, but I don't think I can get through to you no matter what I do. Are you always this pissy about new players?
1.) That's terrible play in and of its self.
2.) At this point it's explaining actions. It started out with metagaming and then MM thought he was wrong. He quickly accumulated about 6 or 7 votes and then when he explained his actions this came up.
3.) I call BS on that. True, we both voted for someone who had voted for us (MM voted for someone who had changed his vote to me), but the reason why was stated clearly. I think what you're sensing is a little bias.
What is this doctor talk coming from?
The way i am playing the game IS correct. As you saw, BlueYoshi reacted to my suspicion list in a rather suspicious way. Drawing out reactions that help the town determine who is mafia and who is town can never hurt.
Do you realize how pompus and ridiculous it is to claim that you are playing the game correctly? It's a matter of opinion really, to each his own.
His job is to lynch scum, not townies who he incorrectly perceives as detrimental.
I'm also painting a big red target for the doctor. While the mafia will know who it is that appears most town, so will the doctor. The mafia will be forced to have to play a guessing game to get around our doctor just as they would have to play a guessing game every single night. My list just adds another level to the metagame and does not favor either side. I've seen the theory you are giving tossed around many times. I've never seen the wolves actually succeed at doing that and I'm not worried about it.
Since when was there a confirmed Doctor for us to paint a target for? Let him do the work, he went to med school, not you.
You guys are persisting that you are playing the only correct way. We bring a new style in and we're labled stupid. Any time we try and explain why we do what we do, we just get ridiculed. We don't get a chance to argue because you just say "lopl u dum" and try and move on.
Scumfever, you claim that his stupidity has no bounds, what was wrong with his argument. It's completely solid from every angle I can see.
If we're going to have to have this argument eventually, let's get it out of the way. If we have to ask for a deadline extension to deal with it, we can see if Mentos will oblige. Personally, I think we have plenty of time to deal with it and then move on. If you lynch him, I'll do the same things you call stupid. Ditto if you lynch me. It's been said repeatedly that we're being lynched for what you perceive as terrible play. Do you want to lynch two innocents and lose because you couldn't take the time to reach a consensus with a party that doesn't agree with your methods?
I'm beginning to get pissed. That means it's time to call everyone to calm down and try and fix the god**** problem.
i dont think anyones ever said the only right way to play is our way, i think were just trying to explain to you guys how this list idea is not a good one.
wow no deadline extension, we've spent enough time arguing about one of you. if you really want some quality discussion then you will lynch either yourself or MM so we can start day 2 anew and not focus on just you guys like everyone has done this day.
What the hell are you on? Of course different styles are better or worse! Are you telling me a person that limits themselves to using only b button attacks in brawl will be anywhere neR as effective as someone taking advantage of all of the ats and everything? Because lemme tell you, the latter is much more effective...
Please stop posting on this account, you're doing it way too often.
Exactly. We cannot truly say at this point, so I do not see it helping the wolves.
The quicklynch scenario you're suggesting is easily stopped by a couple townies with the brains to wait for a minute. Everything can lead to the possible mislynch of a townie.
The list also gives the town a springboard for discussion:
"Why is X so high on the list?"
"I don't think Y should be so high. Here's why."
"I thought Z was suspicious. Why is he so low?"
I think discussion is a pro-town thing at all times. It forces wolves to pick a side or else they get nailed for constantly sitting on the fence.
This is good. A chance to explain the why of our logic versus your's is much better than a facedesk image.
Just labeling something as discussion for being pro town is kind of ignorant in forgetting that uhhh... scum can participate in discussion as well?
This post right here confirms to me we have to lynch one of them.
Please look at the bolded and tell me we are not dealing with something a lot more strange then just two players that circlejerk each other.
Basically acts as if they're a ****ing masonry for god sakes.
Also wanting to use our only deadline extension on D1 is a giant facepalm.
Lynch one of them.
Would rather lynch Ryker at this point for his blatant buddying and admitting to it as well.
God if we're in a good position go MM day 2 cause if what Ryker says is true then if we lynch either one of them the other is going to act like a detrimental *******.
I find it interesting for you to call out buddying with all of the bro nonsense you've in the past. This is granted a MUCH worse case of it, but this is still something to now.
Maybe we are. >.>
I will say again. I know that I'm not scum. I don't think MM is scum. Therefore I think you'll end up leading to mislynches and leaving the town in a bad position.
Disagreement with your next point has already been stated.
I didn't know you only get one deadline extension. In any case, we have plenty of time to get over this and move on. I already said I don't think we'll need it.
Kevin, if I were to ask for a replacement right now, would you proceed to try and get my replacement lynched as well?
Why would you even say things like that -_-
Vote: Magnificentmarth
Ryker, vote for me please. I have neither the patience nor the interest in reasoning with complete imbeciles who refuse to believe that there is a way to play this game other than their own preferred way. If they do not want their town - aligned watcher, then it is worth the sacrifice so that they can see that half of them are clearly falling for Kevin's ridiculous argument and can lynch the scum on the next day phase.
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What frozenflame hijacking the hydra? 0_o
Unvote Vote Cacti
Reason for voting him plz
NOT SCUM YES
i dont even know who im replacing
moronik, SS and Kevin tell me who to vote
dont really have much time to read the thread today, due to lack of internet in my apartment, but ill try to get to it tomorrow
Why would you say such stuff
*rips hair out*
vote: chibo
on page 3 now
you dont give a reason here,
vote: cacti
was pretty suspect of moronik for focusing only on this mm/ryker crap and not pressuring or looking into other people, but they prodded me, and voted cacti which makes me feel better about them.
tho fos: ss for the same reason.
yet you provide a reason for this vote?
Man, I tried to reread the most recent posts but they all suck so bad I don't even want to read them -_-
Ryker, Cacti, Chibo and Blue Yoshi can go toDay imo.
Ok you're fine with lynching me why?....
Kevin won't be lynched toDay, silly. If you knew him you'd understand. I'm OK with lynching Cacti, Ryker and Blue Yoshi because their posts all suck or are non-existent, maybe Chibo too though he looked pretty townie earlier toDay. Scumbagfever, Squirtle Squad and Cacti need to come back and start playing this game again.
Because you said here that I look townie.
Number of posts in which Kevin appears to have been trying to find scum: 0
Number of posts in which Kevin has contributed something useful to the town: 0
Seeing Kevin the scum get lynched after talking down to everyone else: Priceless
Seeing how much MM knows about how Kevin plays: Freicken' Hilarious
