Boondock Saints Mafia(Day 5 begins)

[#HBC | Mac]

eh
i don't see how I can be held accountable for that. When I read his claim post, the fact that it was colored didn't even register in my head. I'm sure not everyone immediately thought "oh he's clear cuz he posted his role in cyan"

 

[CT Chia]

I'm upset that I wasn't around Friday night when Ryker claimed like that given time to unvote (was drinking + smash + risk lol) but the fact that Macman didn't pick up on that is a huge ! in my book. Also not to mention Macman just applauded Kevin for how he pushed Ryker + MM (which I'm not saying is a bad thing, scumhunting is great and I had suspected Ryker as well) but he's pretty much saying o hey thanks and congrats on drilling into those townies enough for me to hammer. I'm curious now about MM's flip to see that connect to Macman as well, but I have no reason not to believe MM's claim, so if both him and Ryker were to flip town, that only makes Macman look even worse...

Vote Macman

 

[KevinM]

You're curious about MM's flip?

What the fux?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

When did I ever applaud his actions? All I said was hes been more helpful than most simply because he was actually pushing lynches. And not just reacting/ not posting at all which is what the majority is doing.

That was an incredibly dumb post chibo. fos

 

[CT Chia]

Not curious about his flip (since I already said in that post that I had no reason not to believe it atm) but his flip relating to Macman because

of how he (maybe not applauded) but mentioned kevin being more useful for pushing a lynch on people, one who flipped town and another who is claimed town with no cc.

proactively playing the game is good but being called helpful for that doesn't exactly make sense.

so i chose a word wrong or two, how does dumb post = fos? unless u dont mean dumb post and mean scummy

MM, are you still suspicious of kevin after you said yesterday that you would be even further suspicious of him if ryker flipped town?

 

[Trillion]

MM, are you still suspicious of kevin after you said yesterday that you would be even further suspicious of him if ryker flipped town?

You should read post #397. It's like on the same page as this question. And I actually never said that. I already had Ryker pegged innocent.

 

[CT Chia]

Just making sure it was still related to the same feelings back here:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9346897&postcount=314
which I caught during the read through

 

[KevinM]

Chibo looking really bad right now.

 

[Trillion]

Just making sure it was still related to the same feelings back here:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9346897&postcount=314
which I caught during the read through

Ah, right I did say that. My bad. Really, I expected that Ryker would turn up innocent. So, I guess it only makes me a little more suspicious of him simply because my thoughts about Ryker were confirmed even more.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

why are people inactive?

 

[Moronik]

yeah

@ mentos can we get one of those spiffy vote/activity counts/prods

~ronike

 

[Blue Yoshi]

Everyone probably forgot about this game after night 1. But then again, night ended two days ago, so some people may have forgotten altogether.

 

[Blue Yoshi]

Accidentally said the same thing twice last post, but still, the point is clear.

 

[~Radiance~]

Sorry this week of school has been real busy.

Vote: Cacti

@Macman

I pointed FoS becasue i was suspicious of them for being scum? i really dont know how to answer that question any better.

 

[KevinM]

Scumlist
Chibo
Blue Yoshi

 

[#HBC | Mac]

First off, i dont think your scum, i said earlier that i thought you were just playing devils advocate. Your contradicition just made me FoS. If i thought you were, my vote would be on you, but its not, its on Cacti. But atm, im ready for this day to be over already and am just waiting for Ryker to get lynched. But dont put me on a pedastal when im just scumhunting, your a staright up mutha ****in loud *** guy, but scum, i dont think so.

cuz i didn't like this post. You said you fosed because he made a contradiction, but you don't think he's scum? So why exactly the fos? Especially since now you said you FOS people who you think are scum.

 

[Moronik]

vote: squirtlesquad

i like this vote

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I seriously hope this doesn't turn out like Monster Mafia with all that inactivity and modkills. God I hate people who sign up for a game when they don't even ****ing play it. Destroys all the fun and there's no vig to rid us of deadweights either.

So can we lynch Cacti and call it a day?

 

[KevinM]

Gheb why not Squirtlesquad? doing the same thing.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Because I know that Cacti will never, ever come back to actually help us. Forgot about Monster Mafia? Monster Island? PW? TV-Allstar? When has Cacti actually been playing the last time? I honestly can't even remember.

At least in SqSq's case I can hope for them to come back and since they are two there should be a chance that at least one of them will find the time to post something. I can tell you already that this will never be the case for Cacti for the rest of the game so we might as well get that nonsense over with.

 

[Moronik]

First off, i dont think your scum, i said earlier that i thought you were just playing devils advocate. Your contradicition just made me FoS. If i thought you were, my vote would be on you, but its not, its on Cacti. But atm, im ready for this day to be over already and am just waiting for Ryker to get lynched. But dont put me on a pedastal when im just scumhunting, your a staright up mutha ****in loud *** guy, but scum, i dont think so.

cuz i didn't like this post. You said you fosed because he made a contradiction, but you don't think he's scum? So why exactly the fos? Especially since now you said you FOS people who you think are scum.

i think what he meant was that it was something he thought was suspicious, but not so much so that he thought kev was obvscum. any reason why he cant do that?

~marshy

 

[Cacti]

Alright, so we started off this game with MagnificantMarth doing some metagaming and budding with Ryker, resulting in a quick wagon against him. The reasoning is fine, and you can't really tell so far who's scum on it. There's probably one, just throwing out a number that's probably reasonable.

The most suspicious person on the bandwagon I think was bunglefever - all he really did was point out the flaws in MM and Ryker's playstyles, and bandwagon between them. All but a few of his posts were one-liner jabs at them, or votes, hopping from one wagon to another. This looks to me like conservative scum play going for easy targets and casually egging on their cases. Right now, after reading the thread, he's my biggest suspicion.

Unvote Vote: Bunglefever

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Coolio

Unvote vote Squirtle Squad

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Cacti will you post more than 3 times toDay?

 

[~Radiance~]

cuz i didn't like this post. You said you fosed because he made a contradiction, but you don't think he's scum? So why exactly the fos? Especially since now you said you FOS people who you think are scum.

im just trying to get info. Yes i never really suspected KevinM of being scum, I just wanted to hear what he would say so i could tell whether i really thought he was scum. when he answerd how he did, my suspicions subsided, and i came to a conclusion. Its just part of my meta.

 

[~Radiance~]

i think what he meant was that it was something he thought was suspicious, but not so much so that he thought kev was obvscum. any reason why he cant do that?

~marshy

and yes at this, thats pretty much why i did it. i didnt think he was scum it was just susupicious. FoS'ing just helps get info out so we can see how they respond and make a judgment off of that.

 

[mentosman8]

Vote count coming shortly... Got distracted with ME2 yesterday, and was pretty busy yesterday/today

Edit 1: And by the first yesterday, I mean Tuesday

Edit 2:

Vote Count!
Cacti: Moronik, Rainezumi
SquirtleSquad: Macman, Gheb_01
KevinM: magnificentmarth
Macman: KevinM, ChiboSempai
Bunglefever: Cacti

Activity

January 28
Rainezumi
Gheb_01
Cacti
Moronik
KevinM

January 27
Macman
Blue Yoshi
Magnificentmarth
ChiboSempai

Inactive
Bunglefever
SquirtleSquad(Have had contact with)

Bunglefever has been prodded: SquirtleSquad avoids prod because I have head from Tom.

 

[SquirtleSquad]

There was a bit of player-to-mod confusion but I understand everything now.

I disagree with macman about seeing the color cyan and not immediately wondering "will he get modkilled for that? it basically clears him." by the time i saw it he was dead.

if not macman then i would go for Gheb. incessant pushing of Cacti is really belligerent. he only recently unvoted cacti when cacti finally showed up but i would like to think that he didnt see cacti coming back and was going to ride it all dai. his logic of needing to get cacti out of the way for his inactivity applies even more so for needing to get macman out of the way for the questionable hammer.

cacti comes back and doesnt mention macman is annoying.

vote: macman

- Hando

 

[Blue Yoshi]

Vote: Bunglefever

For inactivity.

 

[Blue Yoshi]

and yes, I do know his name isn't really bunglefever, but I was just going with what the two above me said. just posting before people use that against me.

 

[Trillion]

and yes, I do know his name isn't really bunglefever, but I was just going with what the two above me said. just posting before people use that against me.

What?? You're defending the name by which you called him in you vote? What the heck? Nobody called out Cacti for that and even Mentosman called him that. Why would anyone try to "use that against you" ??? Guilty conscience much?

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I was sick the past few days so I'm catching up in all my games now.

Cacti if that isn't the most reaching post ive ever seen. All YOU'VE been doing is riding your claim ever since you made it.Even if my posts weren't huge, they addressed questions and problems with what MM and Ryker were saying.

 

[CT Chia]

That's very overly cautious of Blue Yoshi there, I'm not sure why he would say that considering JungleScumBunglefever's current username is Bunglefever.

Also, is your vote strictly because of activity? Not a scumtell? What about Macman's slip yesterday?

I just can't pass that up. I would hate to see him flip town but wow what a dumb move.

 

[Cacti]

About Macman, I don't think that it would have out of his nature to hammer Ryker. From what I've seen, he hates breaking the game with flavor, that sort (in wonderland mafia, he refused to use a supposedly sure-fire way to flavor clear people). What is Macman's slip that you're talking about?

 

[KevinM]

Unvote
Vote Blue Yoshi

Needs to go.

Him or SS.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

still down with ss. Didn't really like his post since it didn't give us much of anything. [admittedly, I didn't look into this Gheb thing, so maybe ill do that now] Not tht suspect of raine anymore. Think jungle is town. Moronik twn, kevinm town. Chibo is iuno, its hard for me to ever pin down is alignment. i wanna lean scum, but i feel like its the same scumvibe i got from him in monster. BY i don't think i can ever really think he's suspect. everyone else, probably scum cuz i don't remember them

/useless post

 

[CT Chia]

About Macman, I don't think that it would have out of his nature to hammer Ryker. From what I've seen, he hates breaking the game with flavor, that sort (in wonderland mafia, he refused to use a supposedly sure-fire way to flavor clear people). What is Macman's slip that you're talking about?

What happened was hardly considered flavor, that's essentially a direct from PM deal goin on

Also, Squirtle's inactivity is starting to irk me
Cacti's inactivty has also been spotty

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Sorry Hando, I don't quite get what you're saying. Yes, i would've kept pushing a Cacti lynch all day unless he started to post and if he falls back into ridiculous inactivity I will go back to him. Don't see how this is an issue or suspicious and I don't think you explain why either (or at least I don't get it).

Cacti, there's a difference between how Macman acted here and what happened in Wonderland. In Wonderland he wanted to go the fun way and refused to get a scumbag lynched via meta. That's one thing. But hammering a confirmed townie is a whole different story. Even if you don't like the idea of winning a game via meta it's still not a good reason to hammer somebody who confirmed his innocence via meta.

I'm not sure if Ryker's action was a modkill-worthy offense. I assume mentos might be able to tell us but it doesn't matter at this point anyways, now that it's publicly known.

 

[Cacti]

Now that I look back, I also see how Macman said that he didn't know that the Cyan was in the town pm when he was hammering, could be him covering his tracks, I guess.

@Gheb, if Macman didn't hammer, I wouldn't say that the cyan color would clear Ryker at all. The townie win condition in cyan is probably known by the mafia - on their safeclaim, or just given to them. In wonderland mafia, the lynch on Riddle due to so-called meta was a fluke - mafia had the so-called "meta clear" pmed to them, but Riddle did not want to get cleared this way for his own reasons.

But if Ryker's action was offense that could be punished by modkill, then I think that it makes Macman look worse - a modkill on Ryker would have been great, earning us a scummy townie dead, and at the same time another lynch. Macman could have seen that he would have gotten modkilled, and hammered him to end the day quickly.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Cacti, if you look at the first post and look at the town win condition you don't see that it's in cyan. The OP has it in white and I don't see why a safeclaim would use that color either. The color signifies the allignment, not the role or character. Nobody except a townie would've known about the town allignmed color being cyan, unless safeclaims have that color but as I said I don't think it's very likely that mentos did that.
Besides, it was a bad and scummy move by macman either way.